10-26-2021, 04:43 PM
Hershiser? Did he win it when he was in Cleveland?
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Outside Topic Sports trivia thread 2020-2021
10-26-2021, 06:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2021, 06:22 PM by BostonCard.)
It was a process of elimination. T=I tried thinking of the LCS/WS MVP dual winners in the same year (all, coincidentally, in the National League), with the assumption that the player you were thinking of didn't win the ALCS, NLCS, and WS MVPs in three different years. Then I tried to think who had played in the AL and for the Giants, and Hershiser was the only name I could think of.
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Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
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(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2021, 06:22 PM by BostonCard.)
It was a process of elimination. T=I tried thinking of the LCS/WS MVP dual winners in the same year (all, coincidentally, in the National League), with the assumption that the player you were thinking of didn't win the ALCS, NLCS, and WS MVPs in three different years. Then I tried to think who had played in the AL and for the Giants, and Hershiser was the only name I could think of.
BC
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
BC
(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote: It was a process of elimination. T=I tried thinking of the LCS/WS MVP dual winners in the same year (all, coincidentally, in the National League), with the assumption that the player you were thinking of didn't win the ALCS, NLCS, and WS MVPs in three different years. Then I tried to think who had played in the AL and for the Giants, and Hershiser was the only name I could think of.
BC
(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
still to be 0-18....the next "most futile teams" are 0-8.....
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote: It was a process of elimination. T=I tried thinking of the LCS/WS MVP dual winners in the same year (all, coincidentally, in the National League), with the assumption that the player you were thinking of didn't win the ALCS, NLCS, and WS MVPs in three different years. Then I tried to think who had played in the AL and for the Giants, and Hershiser was the only name I could think of.
BC
(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
still to be 0-18....the next "most futile teams" are 0-8.....
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
10-26-2021, 10:46 PM
Who was the first manager to win a World Series with two different teams?
10-26-2021, 11:57 PM
(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
“You often hear in chess and other sports that ‘this player is more talented’ but ‘that player works harder.’ This is a fallacy. Hard work is a talent. The ability to keep trying when others quit is a talent.” --- Garry Kasparov
(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
“You often hear in chess and other sports that ‘this player is more talented’ but ‘that player works harder.’ This is a fallacy. Hard work is a talent. The ability to keep trying when others quit is a talent.” --- Garry Kasparov
10-27-2021, 07:03 AM
No on Larussa. Also this manager is one of only two to win pennants with three teams.
Answer to SF 49er head coaches who coached at Stanford / other Bay Area H/C and Asst coach question:
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
Dusty?
Utah?
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
(10-27-2021, 07:03 AM)Phogge Wrote: No on Larussa. Also this manager is one of only two to win pennants with three teams.
Dusty?
(10-26-2021, 11:57 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
Utah?
Audaces fortuna iuvat
Answer to SF 49er head coaches who coached at Stanford / other Bay Area H/C and Asst coach question:
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
Dusty?
Utah?
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
(10-27-2021, 07:03 AM)Phogge Wrote: No on Larussa. Also this manager is one of only two to win pennants with three teams.
Dusty?
(10-26-2021, 11:57 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-25-2021, 09:36 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote: OK, I'll play.
The College Football Belt is an unofficial "trophy" first awarded to Nebraska for defeating Alabama in the 1972 Orange Bowl. The rules of the Belt are simple: all you have to do to obtain it is defeat its current holder head-to-head on the field. So in their first defense of the Belt on September 9, 1972, Nebraska lost it to UCLA. Then two weeks later UCLA lost it to Michigan and so on. In the event of a tie the Belt stays with the holder coming into the game.
Now...... who is the only current member of the Pac-12 conference who has never held the Belt since its inception nearly 50 years ago?
Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
Utah?
Audaces fortuna iuvat
10-27-2021, 05:40 PM
(10-27-2021, 08:31 AM)Mick Wrote: Answer to SF 49er head coaches who coached at Stanford / other Bay Area H/C and Asst coach question:
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
(10-27-2021, 07:03 AM)Phogge Wrote: No on Larussa. Also this manager is one of only two to win pennants with three teams.
Dusty?
(10-26-2021, 11:57 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
Utah?
Utah is a one-time holder, obtaining the Belt from Colorado State in 1994 when they played in the WAC, and then passing it on two weeks later in an upset loss at New Mexico.
“You often hear in chess and other sports that ‘this player is more talented’ but ‘that player works harder.’ This is a fallacy. Hard work is a talent. The ability to keep trying when others quit is a talent.” --- Garry Kasparov
(10-27-2021, 08:31 AM)Mick Wrote: Answer to SF 49er head coaches who coached at Stanford / other Bay Area H/C and Asst coach question:
Stanford head coaches
Christiansen (1972-76), assistant 1968-71
Harbaugh (07-10)
Walsh (1977-78 and 1992-94)
Stanford assistant coaches
Monte Clark, Stanford OL Asst (1993-1994), Cal Assistant (1998)
Mike Nolan, Stanford LBs, (1982-3)
George Seifert, Stanford DBs (I think) (1972-74, 1977-79)
Head coaches at other SF Bay Area colleges
Steve Mariucci, H/C at Cal, 1996; asst at Cal, 1987-1991
Buck Shaw, H/C at Santa Clara (1936-1942), HC at Cal (1945)
Red Strader, H/C at St. Mary's (1940-41)
Never coached in SF BA but coached elsewhere
Dennis Erickson, H/C at Miami, Washington
Chip Kelly, UCLA, Oregon, Northeast
Pete McCulley, Houston, Baylor, Navy
Ken Meyer, coached at 1/2 dozen colleges in South
Never coached D1 (grad student asst doesn't count)
Frankie Albert
Red Hickey
Dick Nolan
Fred O'Connor (coached Catholic U for three years, D3)
Kyle Shanahan
Mike Singletary
Jim Tomsula
(10-27-2021, 07:03 AM)Phogge Wrote: No on Larussa. Also this manager is one of only two to win pennants with three teams.
Dusty?
(10-26-2021, 11:57 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(10-26-2021, 06:20 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(10-26-2021, 09:14 AM)82lsju Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Going to guess Cal, because….
BC
Looked it up… not Cal. The answer is surprising.
BC
especially given how many opportunities they have had to win it....
Yes, they have historically been a pretty good team, especially in the last 35-ish years, but not USC (and not Cal, as my guess had been, and not Stanford).
BC
Kal is a good initial guess but they have had two separate Belt reigns, one in 1990 and one in 1993.
U$C and Washington have each had Belt reigns in numerous seasons.
Utah?
Utah is a one-time holder, obtaining the Belt from Colorado State in 1994 when they played in the WAC, and then passing it on two weeks later in an upset loss at New Mexico.
“You often hear in chess and other sports that ‘this player is more talented’ but ‘that player works harder.’ This is a fallacy. Hard work is a talent. The ability to keep trying when others quit is a talent.” --- Garry Kasparov
10-27-2021, 09:29 PM
ASU has had it four different times, most recently 10/14 to 11/24/1995.
So we've eliminated Stanford, Cal, USC, Washington, Utah, and ASU, I think.
That leaves... half the Pac-12.
BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
So we've eliminated Stanford, Cal, USC, Washington, Utah, and ASU, I think.
That leaves... half the Pac-12.
BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
ASU has had it four different times, most recently 10/14 to 11/24/1995.
So we've eliminated Stanford, Cal, USC, Washington, Utah, and ASU, I think.
That leaves... half the Pac-12.
BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
So we've eliminated Stanford, Cal, USC, Washington, Utah, and ASU, I think.
That leaves... half the Pac-12.
BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Surprised me when I looked it up.
BC
BC
10-28-2021, 12:56 AM
Phogge got it; the answer is Oregon. In the last 50 years they have played in thirteen Belt games, winning none. They've had three particularly good chances:
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
(10-27-2021, 09:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
“You often hear in chess and other sports that ‘this player is more talented’ but ‘that player works harder.’ This is a fallacy. Hard work is a talent. The ability to keep trying when others quit is a talent.” --- Garry Kasparov
Phogge got it; the answer is Oregon. In the last 50 years they have played in thirteen Belt games, winning none. They've had three particularly good chances:
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
(10-27-2021, 09:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
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10-28-2021, 07:45 AM
(10-28-2021, 12:56 AM)Sam Leopold Wrote: Phogge got it; the answer is Oregon. In the last 50 years they have played in thirteen Belt games, winning none. They've had three particularly good chances:
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
(10-27-2021, 09:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
here's another site that has similar info and summaries of
- who has never played in a "College Belt" game
- who has never won a "College Belt" game
https://collegefbbelt.com/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(10-28-2021, 12:56 AM)Sam Leopold Wrote: Phogge got it; the answer is Oregon. In the last 50 years they have played in thirteen Belt games, winning none. They've had three particularly good chances:
* A home game against U$C in 1980 that ended in a 7-7 tie.
* The title game against Auburn in the 2010-11 season lost on a FG in the final seconds.
* Perhaps most stingingly, the Alamo Bowl against TCU on 1/2/2016 where they were up 31-0 at the half, lost their starting QB to an injury and lost the game in OT.
Some of the others:
* Washington State has one reign from upsetting UW in the Apple Cup in 1982 and held the Belt through the 1983 offseason.
* Oregon State has a one-time reign in 1985 from winning at Washington, one of the biggest upsets in conference history.
* Colorado got their one reign from a win over Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl in the 1990-91 season.
* Stanford itself has one reign from a win at Ohio State in 1982 before passing it on two weeks later with a loss to ASU on the road.
(10-27-2021, 09:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: BTW, Sam, someone has traced the College Belt back to the first football game, when Rutgers beat Princeton on 11/06/1869. If you use the expanded college belt, then our Pac-12 non-belt-holder has actually won the belt twice, in Nov 1931 and again in Nov 1933.
BC
I discovered this myself recently, it appears to be part of a system called the Hatch Rankings. Since the original site went offline some time in 2017-18, they are now the one-stop online shop for keeping track of the current holder.
here's another site that has similar info and summaries of
- who has never played in a "College Belt" game
- who has never won a "College Belt" game
https://collegefbbelt.com/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
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