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California
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Stanford
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2021 Big Game Predictions Thread
11-18-2021, 11:15 AM
Transitive rule: Oregon State beat us 35-14 (in Corvallis).
Cal beat the Beavers 39-25 on Nov. 1 in Berkeley.
[And suffered a COVID depleted loss @ARIZ 10-3 on Nov. 8]
So... Cal will beat us 42 to 13, only because the game is in PA.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-...son-around
Cal beat the Beavers 39-25 on Nov. 1 in Berkeley.
[And suffered a COVID depleted loss @ARIZ 10-3 on Nov. 8]
So... Cal will beat us 42 to 13, only because the game is in PA.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-...son-around
Transitive rule: Oregon State beat us 35-14 (in Corvallis).
Cal beat the Beavers 39-25 on Nov. 1 in Berkeley.
[And suffered a COVID depleted loss @ARIZ 10-3 on Nov. 8]
So... Cal will beat us 42 to 13, only because the game is in PA.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-...son-around
Cal beat the Beavers 39-25 on Nov. 1 in Berkeley.
[And suffered a COVID depleted loss @ARIZ 10-3 on Nov. 8]
So... Cal will beat us 42 to 13, only because the game is in PA.
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-...son-around
11-18-2021, 11:34 AM
(11-18-2021, 12:57 AM)Phogge Wrote: Knock out Garbers early and it’s a tossup.
they might be down two OL
Quote:left tackle Will Craig, who remains sidelined with an ankle injury, and right guard McKade Mettauer, who was held out of the Arizona game and still is not available.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/11/16/c...-outbreak/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(11-18-2021, 12:57 AM)Phogge Wrote: Knock out Garbers early and it’s a tossup.
they might be down two OL
Quote:left tackle Will Craig, who remains sidelined with an ankle injury, and right guard McKade Mettauer, who was held out of the Arizona game and still is not available.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/11/16/c...-outbreak/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
11-18-2021, 11:59 AM
Since the game is being played on November 20, I'm going Stanford 20, Cal 19. What the final score should have been in 1982.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
Since the game is being played on November 20, I'm going Stanford 20, Cal 19. What the final score should have been in 1982.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
11-18-2021, 02:46 PM
I could not imagine anything nicer than a McKee-led trouncing of the Bears. May it happen. But I am stuck with a 2019 feeling right now, one where Stanford jumps out to a one TD lead, then is afflicted with offensive rigor mortis in the 2nd half as the Bears score two late TDs to beat us down the stretch. And I don't even think we'll get that late FG to go up again before relinquishing the lead with less than 2 minutes to play. Bears by 7. Yes, my confidence is low right now. I have horrific visions of Garbers cutting through our line on both designed QB runs and pure scrambling plays, while our defense is out on the field far too long and gets gassed late in the game. Good-bye Axe!
I could not imagine anything nicer than a McKee-led trouncing of the Bears. May it happen. But I am stuck with a 2019 feeling right now, one where Stanford jumps out to a one TD lead, then is afflicted with offensive rigor mortis in the 2nd half as the Bears score two late TDs to beat us down the stretch. And I don't even think we'll get that late FG to go up again before relinquishing the lead with less than 2 minutes to play. Bears by 7. Yes, my confidence is low right now. I have horrific visions of Garbers cutting through our line on both designed QB runs and pure scrambling plays, while our defense is out on the field far too long and gets gassed late in the game. Good-bye Axe!
(11-18-2021, 02:46 PM)Austroturf Wrote: I could not imagine anything nicer than a McKee-led trouncing of the Bears. May it happen. But I am stuck with a 2019 feeling right now, one where Stanford jumps out to a one TD lead, then is afflicted with offensive rigor mortis in the 2nd half as the Bears score two late TDs to beat us down the stretch. And I don't even think we'll get that late FG to go up again before relinquishing the lead with less than 2 minutes to play. Bears by 7. Yes, my confidence is low right now. I have horrific visions of Garbers cutting through our line on both designed QB runs and pure scrambling plays, while our defense is out on the field far too long and gets gassed late in the game. Good-bye Axe!
A realistic prediction, for sure. Thing is, Big Games are not at all as weird, quirky, and unpredictable as the popular "throw-out-this-year's-record" stereotype wants us to think. Over the decades, the game has gone generally according to form. This is the year of the weenie, unfortunately. A more complete team that is more tenacious than Stanford, I fear. I think our boys just want to get this season over with. It's why I shudder thinking of next week.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(11-18-2021, 02:46 PM)Austroturf Wrote: I could not imagine anything nicer than a McKee-led trouncing of the Bears. May it happen. But I am stuck with a 2019 feeling right now, one where Stanford jumps out to a one TD lead, then is afflicted with offensive rigor mortis in the 2nd half as the Bears score two late TDs to beat us down the stretch. And I don't even think we'll get that late FG to go up again before relinquishing the lead with less than 2 minutes to play. Bears by 7. Yes, my confidence is low right now. I have horrific visions of Garbers cutting through our line on both designed QB runs and pure scrambling plays, while our defense is out on the field far too long and gets gassed late in the game. Good-bye Axe!
A realistic prediction, for sure. Thing is, Big Games are not at all as weird, quirky, and unpredictable as the popular "throw-out-this-year's-record" stereotype wants us to think. Over the decades, the game has gone generally according to form. This is the year of the weenie, unfortunately. A more complete team that is more tenacious than Stanford, I fear. I think our boys just want to get this season over with. It's why I shudder thinking of next week.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
11-19-2021, 04:30 PM
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
At age 63, Walsh was done coaching. He returned to the 49ers in management ranks.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
At age 63, Walsh was done coaching. He returned to the 49ers in management ranks.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
At age 63, Walsh was done coaching. He returned to the 49ers in management ranks.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
At age 63, Walsh was done coaching. He returned to the 49ers in management ranks.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
11-19-2021, 06:21 PM
(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
11-19-2021, 06:22 PM
(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
Let it be so...
(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
Let it be so...
11-19-2021, 11:51 PM
(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
He already is head coach for life (at least, the life of Stanford football). You think I'm kidding?
(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
He already is head coach for life (at least, the life of Stanford football). You think I'm kidding?
11-20-2021, 03:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2021, 03:25 AM by JohnR34231.)
(11-19-2021, 11:51 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
He already is head coach for life (at least, the life of Stanford football). You think I'm kidding?
He's not going to survive continued 4-8, 3-9 type seasons. He will survive a couple more of them if he chooses to.
As far as this year's Big Game is concerned I think if McKee plays it will be a close one. Unfortunately based on our performances against Wazzu and Washington, I'm not optimistic about our ability to win the close ones.
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2021, 03:25 AM by JohnR34231.)
(11-19-2021, 11:51 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:21 PM)gailtate Wrote:(11-19-2021, 06:09 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Finishing 3-9... Does Shaw leave to take an NFL job, or a studio post?
He's 4-8, 4-2, likely 3-9 this season.
Is he just going through the motions?
How long can he avoid looking in the mirror?
If Kal drills us 31 to 10 tomorrow, then what does Shaw say, "We had trouble executing?"
Maybe Muir tolerates another 4 win season in 2022, but if Shaw takes $8M+ in 2022 for just 4 or 5 wins, then there is nowhere to go. He's done.
It looks like he is just clipping coupons.
Go do the speaking tour at college dinners.
Head to the TV studio like Chris Petersen.
Back on Nov 28, 1994 the late great Bill Walsh stepped down ending his second stint, after losing Big Game and finishing 3-7-1.
https://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/941130Arc4032.html
He wins tomorrow and Bernie gives him a two-year extension. He wins the following week and he's Head Coach For Life. You think I'm kidding?
He already is head coach for life (at least, the life of Stanford football). You think I'm kidding?
He's not going to survive continued 4-8, 3-9 type seasons. He will survive a couple more of them if he chooses to.
As far as this year's Big Game is concerned I think if McKee plays it will be a close one. Unfortunately based on our performances against Wazzu and Washington, I'm not optimistic about our ability to win the close ones.
11-21-2021, 06:40 AM
It is indeed sad when the most pessimistic prognosticator this game, Phogge, was not only the winner, but was still too optimistic for the reality that came crushing down on the Cardinal. I mean, he thought Stanford could score 17 points. To be fair, so did I. But only he somehow figured our D would give up 40+ to the Bears. Wow.
It is indeed sad when the most pessimistic prognosticator this game, Phogge, was not only the winner, but was still too optimistic for the reality that came crushing down on the Cardinal. I mean, he thought Stanford could score 17 points. To be fair, so did I. But only he somehow figured our D would give up 40+ to the Bears. Wow.
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