05-29-2023, 11:40 AM
USC, ASU and UC Irvine should all have been in the tournament.
(05-29-2023, 10:26 AM)Mick Wrote:(05-29-2023, 10:05 AM)Sam Leopold Wrote: The west coast got a little bit more short shrift than usual this year. I can understand Arizona getting into the tournament ---- with their late surge they essentially stole ASU's bid. But where is USC? Not even in the first four out, or even mentioned at all on the way out by ESPN in memoriam, mentions that ASU, UC Irvine and Santa Barbara at least received?
Interesting to see where the West Coast teams ended up. SCU and Arizona are in Fayetteville. Oregon State is in Baton Rouge. Oregon is in Nashville. Washington is in Stillwater.
And the NCAA selection committee didn't do the Pacific teams any favors. ASU (#40), USC (#41), UC Irvine (#28), UCLA (#47), CSU-Northridge (#49), Santa Barbara (#44) and UCSD (#57) got screwed.
(05-29-2023, 09:37 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(05-29-2023, 09:22 AM)cardfan77 Wrote: Stanford is the 8th seed and will host Texas A&M, Fullerton, San Jose State.
Fullerton State, bad memories of past games against them in the NCAA's.
(05-29-2023, 10:26 AM)Mick Wrote:(05-29-2023, 10:05 AM)Sam Leopold Wrote: The west coast got a little bit more short shrift than usual this year. I can understand Arizona getting into the tournament ---- with their late surge they essentially stole ASU's bid. But where is USC? Not even in the first four out, or even mentioned at all on the way out by ESPN in memoriam, mentions that ASU, UC Irvine and Santa Barbara at least received?
Interesting to see where the West Coast teams ended up. SCU and Arizona are in Fayetteville. Oregon State is in Baton Rouge. Oregon is in Nashville. Washington is in Stillwater.
And the NCAA selection committee didn't do the Pacific teams any favors. ASU (#40), USC (#41), UC Irvine (#28), UCLA (#47), CSU-Northridge (#49), Santa Barbara (#44) and UCSD (#57) got screwed.
(05-29-2023, 09:37 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(05-29-2023, 09:22 AM)cardfan77 Wrote: Stanford is the 8th seed and will host Texas A&M, Fullerton, San Jose State.
Fullerton State, bad memories of past games against them in the NCAA's.
(05-29-2023, 11:49 AM)CTcard Wrote: Initial thoughts on the bracket.
Over Seeded:
Auburn (#13 overall) - complained about them a few posts above.
Indiana State (#14 overall) - sympathetic to them, but not clear their record deserves a hosting spot
Oklahoma - 11-13, 31-26 overall; #7 in Big 12. Making the tournament seems to be a pure RPI call over teams like Kansas State, Arizona State, USC, Notre Dame (just among the big 4 conferences).
Under Seeded:
Campbell - seem to be best mid-major, but only 3rd highest mid-major seed.
UConn - nominally the second worst #2 seed (#31 overall) despite most of the polls ranking them just outside the top ten much of the year. Even RPI has them at #22 (which is not friendly to northeast teams, as well as western).
Hosed (left out):
UC San Diego - won the Big West but cannot appear in the tournament due to four year transition rule (transitioning from Division II to Division I)
UC Irvine - best team in the Big West despite finishing fourth. In most mock brackets as of yesterday.
ASU - maybe hosed by themselves. Went into Stanford series (third last weekend) in first place in Pac 12. Then lost 8 of last 11 to finish the season.
USC - 17-13 (4th in conference), 34-23-1 overall. But it's SC so I am not so upset.
Stanford Regional:
The field doesn't look too tough depending on just what to make of A&M.
SJSU - tied for first in WAC at 18-11, 31-25 overall. Won the WAC tournament going 4-1. #104 RPI. #93 ISR (BoydsWorld). 6.5 runs per game. Gave up 6.3 runs/game. Stanford played no WAC teams this year, a little surprising. SJSU has 3 main starting pitchers whose ERAs range from 4.5 to 5.8 and WHIPs from 1.47 to 1.56.
Fullerton - 20-10, 31-22. #65 RPI. #53 ISR. Got the Big West automatic bid despite finishing tied for second. UC San Diego wasn't eligible and they took 2 of 3 from Northridge who tied them in the standings. Stanford took 2 of 3 from Fullerton to start the season though got blown out in the first game and had the crazy 7 runs in the ninth and 8 runs in the tenth to win the rubber match. Fullerton seemed to be throwing their season away when they lost 8 in a row in May but rallied to win 3 of last 4 to get the Big West automatic bid by the skin of their teeth.
Texas AM - Last SEC team to make it in, but still a 2 seed and nominally #25 overall. 14-16, 36-25 overall. RPI #29, ISR #31. Coming off a big run in the SEC tournament where they went 4-2 overall and lost in the championship game. The key question is are they on a roll or are they exhausted after playing 6 tournament games in 6 days. Averaging 7.0 runs per game despite a 0.269 AVG - pretty good power with 81 HRs. Allowing 5.8 runs per game with a 5.57 ERA. They don't appear to have a star starting pitcher, but lots of guys around 5 ERA. Their best pitcher seems to have Matthews' role from last year, with 62 innings pitched but 0 starts and a 3.63 ERA.
Stanford: 38-16; RPI #15, ISR #9; 8.6 runs/gm, 102 HRs, 0.949 OPS; 5.99 ERA, 1.57 WHIP
Texas AM: 36-25; RPI #29, ISR #31; 7.0 runs/gm, 82 HRs, 0.840 OPS; 5.57 ERA, 1.59 WHIP
Fullerton: 31-22; RPI #65, ISR #53; 6.1 runs/gm, 34 HRs, 0.772 OPS; 4.94 ERA, 1.56 WHIP
SJSU: 31-25; RPI #104, ISR #93; 6.5 runs/gm, 60 HRs, 0.828 OPS; 5.76 ERA, 1.61 WHIP
(05-29-2023, 11:49 AM)CTcard Wrote: Initial thoughts on the bracket.
Over Seeded:
Auburn (#13 overall) - complained about them a few posts above.
Indiana State (#14 overall) - sympathetic to them, but not clear their record deserves a hosting spot
Oklahoma - 11-13, 31-26 overall; #7 in Big 12. Making the tournament seems to be a pure RPI call over teams like Kansas State, Arizona State, USC, Notre Dame (just among the big 4 conferences).
Under Seeded:
Campbell - seem to be best mid-major, but only 3rd highest mid-major seed.
UConn - nominally the second worst #2 seed (#31 overall) despite most of the polls ranking them just outside the top ten much of the year. Even RPI has them at #22 (which is not friendly to northeast teams, as well as western).
Hosed (left out):
UC San Diego - won the Big West but cannot appear in the tournament due to four year transition rule (transitioning from Division II to Division I)
UC Irvine - best team in the Big West despite finishing fourth. In most mock brackets as of yesterday.
ASU - maybe hosed by themselves. Went into Stanford series (third last weekend) in first place in Pac 12. Then lost 8 of last 11 to finish the season.
USC - 17-13 (4th in conference), 34-23-1 overall. But it's SC so I am not so upset.
Stanford Regional:
The field doesn't look too tough depending on just what to make of A&M.
SJSU - tied for first in WAC at 18-11, 31-25 overall. Won the WAC tournament going 4-1. #104 RPI. #93 ISR (BoydsWorld). 6.5 runs per game. Gave up 6.3 runs/game. Stanford played no WAC teams this year, a little surprising. SJSU has 3 main starting pitchers whose ERAs range from 4.5 to 5.8 and WHIPs from 1.47 to 1.56.
Fullerton - 20-10, 31-22. #65 RPI. #53 ISR. Got the Big West automatic bid despite finishing tied for second. UC San Diego wasn't eligible and they took 2 of 3 from Northridge who tied them in the standings. Stanford took 2 of 3 from Fullerton to start the season though got blown out in the first game and had the crazy 7 runs in the ninth and 8 runs in the tenth to win the rubber match. Fullerton seemed to be throwing their season away when they lost 8 in a row in May but rallied to win 3 of last 4 to get the Big West automatic bid by the skin of their teeth.
Texas AM - Last SEC team to make it in, but still a 2 seed and nominally #25 overall. 14-16, 36-25 overall. RPI #29, ISR #31. Coming off a big run in the SEC tournament where they went 4-2 overall and lost in the championship game. The key question is are they on a roll or are they exhausted after playing 6 tournament games in 6 days. Averaging 7.0 runs per game despite a 0.269 AVG - pretty good power with 81 HRs. Allowing 5.8 runs per game with a 5.57 ERA. They don't appear to have a star starting pitcher, but lots of guys around 5 ERA. Their best pitcher seems to have Matthews' role from last year, with 62 innings pitched but 0 starts and a 3.63 ERA.
Stanford: 38-16; RPI #15, ISR #9; 8.6 runs/gm, 102 HRs, 0.949 OPS; 5.99 ERA, 1.57 WHIP
Texas AM: 36-25; RPI #29, ISR #31; 7.0 runs/gm, 82 HRs, 0.840 OPS; 5.57 ERA, 1.59 WHIP
Fullerton: 31-22; RPI #65, ISR #53; 6.1 runs/gm, 34 HRs, 0.772 OPS; 4.94 ERA, 1.56 WHIP
SJSU: 31-25; RPI #104, ISR #93; 6.5 runs/gm, 60 HRs, 0.828 OPS; 5.76 ERA, 1.61 WHIP
(05-29-2023, 05:26 PM)CTcard Wrote: After this mess of a field, articles are starting to appear clamoring for something better than the RPI. At least people are starting to understand that the RPI is a mess, even if they mostly don't understand why.
Here is one from Baseball America (that is free at the moment).
College Baseball Mulls RPI Reform In Wake Of NCAA Tournament Selections (baseballamerica.com)
Strangely, their main exhibit is claiming that Arizona got too much benefit from the RPI and shouldn't be in the tourney overy ASU. While that may be true (though I would fear UA far more right now), Arizona is hardly the poster-boy for RPI problems.
(05-29-2023, 05:26 PM)CTcard Wrote: After this mess of a field, articles are starting to appear clamoring for something better than the RPI. At least people are starting to understand that the RPI is a mess, even if they mostly don't understand why.
Here is one from Baseball America (that is free at the moment).
College Baseball Mulls RPI Reform In Wake Of NCAA Tournament Selections (baseballamerica.com)
Strangely, their main exhibit is claiming that Arizona got too much benefit from the RPI and shouldn't be in the tourney overy ASU. While that may be true (though I would fear UA far more right now), Arizona is hardly the poster-boy for RPI problems.
(05-31-2023, 07:23 AM)Baller4 Wrote: There was a great quote that Aaron Fitt had posted on his twitter by the HC of Kansas State. Basically stating that he had beaten two teams in regular season series that jumped K State for a regional. What good if conference play when you are not going to count wins.
Also, SJSU and Stanford. Teacher vs student, as Sanfalippo was on Esquer's staff at Cal.
(05-31-2023, 07:23 AM)Baller4 Wrote: There was a great quote that Aaron Fitt had posted on his twitter by the HC of Kansas State. Basically stating that he had beaten two teams in regular season series that jumped K State for a regional. What good if conference play when you are not going to count wins.
Also, SJSU and Stanford. Teacher vs student, as Sanfalippo was on Esquer's staff at Cal.
(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
(05-31-2023, 11:05 AM)BobK Wrote:(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
Volchko #36. In coming we hope Frosh
(05-31-2023, 11:05 AM)BobK Wrote:(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
Volchko #36. In coming we hope Frosh
(05-31-2023, 11:05 AM)BobK Wrote:(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
Volchko #36. In coming we hope Frosh
(05-31-2023, 11:05 AM)BobK Wrote:(05-31-2023, 07:28 AM)BobK Wrote: Baseball America has their updated draft predictions
Troy 12
Mathews 107
Keenan 109. Our top recruit a pitcher
Rios 161
Park 187
Graham 209
R Bruno 215
Bowser 226
There are 30 teams but extra choices by teams so hard to figure what Round
Volchko #36. In coming we hope Frosh