02-21-2023, 09:56 AM
WBB: Stanford 71 -- UCLA 66
02-21-2023, 10:13 AM
(02-21-2023, 12:47 AM)treetop11 Wrote: Close clearly had her team play as physical as they could as well as employing the clog the middle and hound Jump. The refs let Ucla get away with a lot of fouls, although we got away with a few ourselves. But I think Ucla got away with more. I don't mind letting them go in regard to bifed bsnging in rebounding or ticky tack fouls. But hitting s shooter needs to alway be called. But really what frustrates me the most are the refs allowing illegal screens. Ucla was illegally screening virtually every possession, sometimes 2 on possessions. Refs need to call those and enfoce the rule or stop ever caling them,
Speaking of hitting the shooter, that play they reviewed where Cam accidentally hit her defender in the face? That player was draped ALL OVER Cam on the shot, and then the ball went off UCLA. To me that’s the only reason her face was in position to catch Cam’s elbow. So the refs blew two calls on that play.
(02-21-2023, 12:47 AM)treetop11 Wrote: Close clearly had her team play as physical as they could as well as employing the clog the middle and hound Jump. The refs let Ucla get away with a lot of fouls, although we got away with a few ourselves. But I think Ucla got away with more. I don't mind letting them go in regard to bifed bsnging in rebounding or ticky tack fouls. But hitting s shooter needs to alway be called. But really what frustrates me the most are the refs allowing illegal screens. Ucla was illegally screening virtually every possession, sometimes 2 on possessions. Refs need to call those and enfoce the rule or stop ever caling them,
Speaking of hitting the shooter, that play they reviewed where Cam accidentally hit her defender in the face? That player was draped ALL OVER Cam on the shot, and then the ball went off UCLA. To me that’s the only reason her face was in position to catch Cam’s elbow. So the refs blew two calls on that play.
Random thoughts…
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
Haley… again to draw from personal experiences, after a couple of hours of hard physical work, I’m not always as alert or sharp. After a game, especially a close one, I am willing to cut any player some slack for being a bit fazed out!
Betts… what a great time for her to be gaining confidence and contributing to the team! She should be a real asset going into the tournament!
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
Haley… again to draw from personal experiences, after a couple of hours of hard physical work, I’m not always as alert or sharp. After a game, especially a close one, I am willing to cut any player some slack for being a bit fazed out!
Betts… what a great time for her to be gaining confidence and contributing to the team! She should be a real asset going into the tournament!
Random thoughts…
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
Haley… again to draw from personal experiences, after a couple of hours of hard physical work, I’m not always as alert or sharp. After a game, especially a close one, I am willing to cut any player some slack for being a bit fazed out!
Betts… what a great time for her to be gaining confidence and contributing to the team! She should be a real asset going into the tournament!
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
Haley… again to draw from personal experiences, after a couple of hours of hard physical work, I’m not always as alert or sharp. After a game, especially a close one, I am willing to cut any player some slack for being a bit fazed out!
Betts… what a great time for her to be gaining confidence and contributing to the team! She should be a real asset going into the tournament!
02-21-2023, 01:32 PM
(02-21-2023, 12:49 PM)Baez87 Wrote: Random thoughts…Her shoulder may already be “talking back” - during the post-game “Behind the Bench “ talks, I’ve seen her with a big ice pack taped on.
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
(02-21-2023, 12:49 PM)Baez87 Wrote: Random thoughts…Her shoulder may already be “talking back” - during the post-game “Behind the Bench “ talks, I’ve seen her with a big ice pack taped on.
Jump’s contribution to our games seems to me to be to burn the defense if it ignores her (she is still hitting at a high percentage), create an offensive rhythm by running her routes on the offensive end of the court, taking her defender as far out of the key as possible to open up the key, and playing tenacious defense (I know that some of our posters don’t agree, but watch her, she never stops running!). I am concerned by what seems to be her greatest strength — commitment to excellence by being the first in and out of the gym — all that repetitive movement in her shoulder. In the off season, she didn’t rest. Instead she participated on England’s 3x international team. I know just how much my own physiology has pushed back against repeated use of the computer. At what point does the shoulder start to “talk back”?
02-21-2023, 01:51 PM
I kept following asleep last night as I posted, so stopped.
Would add that our FT shooting also was a major factor in winning. Brink of course but also others. As someone who harps on making FTs, I was pleasantly surprised at how great we did. It gave us a good amount of points and made Ucla pay for its aggressive fouling. Just as importantly, it kept our momentum going when we were ahead, and it also prevented Ucla from building a lead when they mounted their 3rd Q surge. When they went ahead of us in the 3rd and 4th by 1-4 points, we would make FTs to keep close even when we were in a FG drought.
Interesting points made by Baez and Ultimate about Jump's shoulder. Perhaps I and others are wrong, and it's more physical than mental.
Would add that our FT shooting also was a major factor in winning. Brink of course but also others. As someone who harps on making FTs, I was pleasantly surprised at how great we did. It gave us a good amount of points and made Ucla pay for its aggressive fouling. Just as importantly, it kept our momentum going when we were ahead, and it also prevented Ucla from building a lead when they mounted their 3rd Q surge. When they went ahead of us in the 3rd and 4th by 1-4 points, we would make FTs to keep close even when we were in a FG drought.
Interesting points made by Baez and Ultimate about Jump's shoulder. Perhaps I and others are wrong, and it's more physical than mental.
I kept following asleep last night as I posted, so stopped.
Would add that our FT shooting also was a major factor in winning. Brink of course but also others. As someone who harps on making FTs, I was pleasantly surprised at how great we did. It gave us a good amount of points and made Ucla pay for its aggressive fouling. Just as importantly, it kept our momentum going when we were ahead, and it also prevented Ucla from building a lead when they mounted their 3rd Q surge. When they went ahead of us in the 3rd and 4th by 1-4 points, we would make FTs to keep close even when we were in a FG drought.
Interesting points made by Baez and Ultimate about Jump's shoulder. Perhaps I and others are wrong, and it's more physical than mental.
Would add that our FT shooting also was a major factor in winning. Brink of course but also others. As someone who harps on making FTs, I was pleasantly surprised at how great we did. It gave us a good amount of points and made Ucla pay for its aggressive fouling. Just as importantly, it kept our momentum going when we were ahead, and it also prevented Ucla from building a lead when they mounted their 3rd Q surge. When they went ahead of us in the 3rd and 4th by 1-4 points, we would make FTs to keep close even when we were in a FG drought.
Interesting points made by Baez and Ultimate about Jump's shoulder. Perhaps I and others are wrong, and it's more physical than mental.
02-21-2023, 02:31 PM
Jump only took 2 three point shots last night because she was closely guarded. Both of those shots were not ideal because she was moving laterally to get enough room to shoot. Missing two shots from beyond the arc is not a slump. She is fine. If any team leaves her open, she will make them pay.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
Jump only took 2 three point shots last night because she was closely guarded. Both of those shots were not ideal because she was moving laterally to get enough room to shoot. Missing two shots from beyond the arc is not a slump. She is fine. If any team leaves her open, she will make them pay.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
02-21-2023, 03:37 PM
(02-21-2023, 02:31 PM)martyup Wrote: Jump only took 2 three point shots last night because she was closely guarded. Both of those shots were not ideal because she was moving laterally to get enough room to shoot. Missing two shots from beyond the arc is not a slump. She is fine. If any team leaves her open, she will make them pay.
since our opponents are packing the post with 3 defenders, how about a double high screen for hannah? if one screener is a post player she can roll to the basket. hannah can shoot the 3 or pass to the post.
(02-21-2023, 02:31 PM)martyup Wrote: Jump only took 2 three point shots last night because she was closely guarded. Both of those shots were not ideal because she was moving laterally to get enough room to shoot. Missing two shots from beyond the arc is not a slump. She is fine. If any team leaves her open, she will make them pay.
since our opponents are packing the post with 3 defenders, how about a double high screen for hannah? if one screener is a post player she can roll to the basket. hannah can shoot the 3 or pass to the post.
Jump's three point shooting for the last couple of months:
@ UCLA 2/8
@ USC 0/3
Utah 2/5
Colorado 5/10
Oregon State 1/7
Oregon 2/6
@ WSU 2/7
@ Washington 2/7
@ Arizona 3/4
@ ASU 4/8
USC 2/8
UCLA 0/2
She had a good game against Colorado at home, and a good weekend at the Arizona schools. Everyone else seems to have been able to defend her pretty well. We have been trying new wrinkles to get her open on screens, but her catch-and-shoot accuracy is much better than when she moves laterally around a screen. I do think the coaches need to be creative about giving her more chances.
Many of the shots that Jump used to get and make were in transition. As our rebounding has declined some, so too have our transition opportunities. Tara was clear in the presser that our rebounding needs to improve and if she succeeds in bringing that about, Jump will get more transition opportunities.
@ UCLA 2/8
@ USC 0/3
Utah 2/5
Colorado 5/10
Oregon State 1/7
Oregon 2/6
@ WSU 2/7
@ Washington 2/7
@ Arizona 3/4
@ ASU 4/8
USC 2/8
UCLA 0/2
She had a good game against Colorado at home, and a good weekend at the Arizona schools. Everyone else seems to have been able to defend her pretty well. We have been trying new wrinkles to get her open on screens, but her catch-and-shoot accuracy is much better than when she moves laterally around a screen. I do think the coaches need to be creative about giving her more chances.
Many of the shots that Jump used to get and make were in transition. As our rebounding has declined some, so too have our transition opportunities. Tara was clear in the presser that our rebounding needs to improve and if she succeeds in bringing that about, Jump will get more transition opportunities.
Jump's three point shooting for the last couple of months:
@ UCLA 2/8
@ USC 0/3
Utah 2/5
Colorado 5/10
Oregon State 1/7
Oregon 2/6
@ WSU 2/7
@ Washington 2/7
@ Arizona 3/4
@ ASU 4/8
USC 2/8
UCLA 0/2
She had a good game against Colorado at home, and a good weekend at the Arizona schools. Everyone else seems to have been able to defend her pretty well. We have been trying new wrinkles to get her open on screens, but her catch-and-shoot accuracy is much better than when she moves laterally around a screen. I do think the coaches need to be creative about giving her more chances.
Many of the shots that Jump used to get and make were in transition. As our rebounding has declined some, so too have our transition opportunities. Tara was clear in the presser that our rebounding needs to improve and if she succeeds in bringing that about, Jump will get more transition opportunities.
@ UCLA 2/8
@ USC 0/3
Utah 2/5
Colorado 5/10
Oregon State 1/7
Oregon 2/6
@ WSU 2/7
@ Washington 2/7
@ Arizona 3/4
@ ASU 4/8
USC 2/8
UCLA 0/2
She had a good game against Colorado at home, and a good weekend at the Arizona schools. Everyone else seems to have been able to defend her pretty well. We have been trying new wrinkles to get her open on screens, but her catch-and-shoot accuracy is much better than when she moves laterally around a screen. I do think the coaches need to be creative about giving her more chances.
Many of the shots that Jump used to get and make were in transition. As our rebounding has declined some, so too have our transition opportunities. Tara was clear in the presser that our rebounding needs to improve and if she succeeds in bringing that about, Jump will get more transition opportunities.
02-21-2023, 08:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2023, 08:59 PM by cardfan1996.)
(02-21-2023, 10:13 AM)TheWildJacko Wrote:(02-21-2023, 12:47 AM)treetop11 Wrote: Close clearly had her team play as physical as they could as well as employing the clog the middle and hound Jump. The refs let Ucla get away with a lot of fouls, although we got away with a few ourselves. But I think Ucla got away with more. I don't mind letting them go in regard to bifed bsnging in rebounding or ticky tack fouls. But hitting s shooter needs to alway be called. But really what frustrates me the most are the refs allowing illegal screens. Ucla was illegally screening virtually every possession, sometimes 2 on possessions. Refs need to call those and enfoce the rule or stop ever caling them,
Speaking of hitting the shooter, that play they reviewed where Cam accidentally hit her defender in the face? That player was draped ALL OVER Cam on the shot, and then the ball went off UCLA. To me that’s the only reason her face was in position to catch Cam’s elbow. So the refs blew two calls on that play.
That’s actually not the first time Bessoir has stuck her nose into a post players’ elbow and initiated a review. She is either a very unlucky young lady or it’s apart of UCLA’s flopping strategy and exaggerating contact. Cori had Charisma play on a torn meniscus for a WNIT bid last year and I am sure she instructed Bessoir to get hit in the face for a win. Sometimes it works (PAC-12 tourney 2021) and sometimes it doesn’t. One of the many reasons why I am so pro-NIL. College coaches sacrifice players all the time and don’t lose any sleep.
02-21-2023, 08:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2023, 08:59 PM by cardfan1996.)
(02-21-2023, 10:13 AM)TheWildJacko Wrote:(02-21-2023, 12:47 AM)treetop11 Wrote: Close clearly had her team play as physical as they could as well as employing the clog the middle and hound Jump. The refs let Ucla get away with a lot of fouls, although we got away with a few ourselves. But I think Ucla got away with more. I don't mind letting them go in regard to bifed bsnging in rebounding or ticky tack fouls. But hitting s shooter needs to alway be called. But really what frustrates me the most are the refs allowing illegal screens. Ucla was illegally screening virtually every possession, sometimes 2 on possessions. Refs need to call those and enfoce the rule or stop ever caling them,
Speaking of hitting the shooter, that play they reviewed where Cam accidentally hit her defender in the face? That player was draped ALL OVER Cam on the shot, and then the ball went off UCLA. To me that’s the only reason her face was in position to catch Cam’s elbow. So the refs blew two calls on that play.
That’s actually not the first time Bessoir has stuck her nose into a post players’ elbow and initiated a review. She is either a very unlucky young lady or it’s apart of UCLA’s flopping strategy and exaggerating contact. Cori had Charisma play on a torn meniscus for a WNIT bid last year and I am sure she instructed Bessoir to get hit in the face for a win. Sometimes it works (PAC-12 tourney 2021) and sometimes it doesn’t. One of the many reasons why I am so pro-NIL. College coaches sacrifice players all the time and don’t lose any sleep.
02-22-2023, 04:52 PM
I don’t know if this has been posted somewhere already but includes clips of Senior Night ceremony.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/stanfordwbb/status/1628196509547401217?s=46&t=nnWs20mqZx8S-0lZeeafFA[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/stanfordwbb/status/1628196509547401217?s=46&t=nnWs20mqZx8S-0lZeeafFA[/tweet]
02-22-2023, 05:12 PM
Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
I just hope Big Red goes for her Ph. D.!
DIE LUFT DER FREIHEIT WEHT
02-22-2023, 06:52 PM
(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
Come to the postseason awards banquet for the final goodbye!
(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
Come to the postseason awards banquet for the final goodbye!
02-22-2023, 07:15 PM
(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
I think the music contributed but it did make me emotional watching. Every one of our seniors has made a major impact at some point in their careers. I too hope they get a perfect ending. They are incredible people and it’s been an absolute joy watching them grow as people and players in our program. Like Tara said at the ceremony, let’s keep it rolling.
(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
I think the music contributed but it did make me emotional watching. Every one of our seniors has made a major impact at some point in their careers. I too hope they get a perfect ending. They are incredible people and it’s been an absolute joy watching them grow as people and players in our program. Like Tara said at the ceremony, let’s keep it rolling.
02-22-2023, 08:29 PM
(02-22-2023, 07:15 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
I think the music contributed but it did make me emotional watching. Every one of our seniors has made a major impact at some point in their careers. I too hope they get a perfect ending. They are incredible people and it’s been an absolute joy watching them grow as people and players in our program. Like Tara said at the ceremony, let’s keep it rolling.
Well said, totally agree. It is a rare class where everyone is a major contributor at some point and they all stick together. I hope they go out champs again, for them much more than us fans.
(02-22-2023, 07:15 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:(02-22-2023, 05:12 PM)81alum Wrote: Thank you JJJ! I teared up at the time, and again when watching.
Somehow I wish the senior day happened after the season was entirely over. It just seems wrong to say goodbye when there is so much of the season left.
I think the music contributed but it did make me emotional watching. Every one of our seniors has made a major impact at some point in their careers. I too hope they get a perfect ending. They are incredible people and it’s been an absolute joy watching them grow as people and players in our program. Like Tara said at the ceremony, let’s keep it rolling.
Well said, totally agree. It is a rare class where everyone is a major contributor at some point and they all stick together. I hope they go out champs again, for them much more than us fans.
02-23-2023, 12:53 AM
Thanks for sharing that - had to take family home before they did the senior night portion, so really glad to see that video. Totally agree - a stellar class on so many levels, and as hard as it was to imagine replacing the Hulls + Wilson, losing the Funky Four feels even more of a gaping roster loss...
Here's to 11 more victories for them before the season's over! ;)
Here's to 11 more victories for them before the season's over! ;)
Thanks for sharing that - had to take family home before they did the senior night portion, so really glad to see that video. Totally agree - a stellar class on so many levels, and as hard as it was to imagine replacing the Hulls + Wilson, losing the Funky Four feels even more of a gaping roster loss...
Here's to 11 more victories for them before the season's over! ;)
Here's to 11 more victories for them before the season's over! ;)
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