03-12-2023, 05:50 PM
the main effect of getting the #1 seed would seem to be that we play texas and iowa plays duke if the games go as predicted. also that we don't play colorado unless they beat iowa.
WBB:Bracketology
03-12-2023, 05:50 PM
I don't hate our draw. Any #2 seed would be tough, and we have to get there first. I don't like playing Gonzaga (if we do end up playing them) because it is boring, been there, done that most every year. But Texas is fine. They aren't that great this season. And who we might play if we get to the F4? Well, just get there first, then it is all gravy to me.
I don't hate our draw. Any #2 seed would be tough, and we have to get there first. I don't like playing Gonzaga (if we do end up playing them) because it is boring, been there, done that most every year. But Texas is fine. They aren't that great this season. And who we might play if we get to the F4? Well, just get there first, then it is all gravy to me.
They key for me is that we are not a 2 in South Carolina's regional. We have as good a chance as any other team of making it to the final four. Texas is in the way, but Texas has not been as good this year as last year. Gonzaga will have to beat a higher seeded team to get to us--I rather hope they do since we will be better prepared for them than for Ol Miss. I presume Iowa will meet us in the elite 8, but that is reasonable given how our regular season and tournament ended. We were going to get the best 2 seed of the bunch, and we did.
So, let's win a couple at Maples and take it from there. I'll be there.
So, let's win a couple at Maples and take it from there. I'll be there.
They key for me is that we are not a 2 in South Carolina's regional. We have as good a chance as any other team of making it to the final four. Texas is in the way, but Texas has not been as good this year as last year. Gonzaga will have to beat a higher seeded team to get to us--I rather hope they do since we will be better prepared for them than for Ol Miss. I presume Iowa will meet us in the elite 8, but that is reasonable given how our regular season and tournament ended. We were going to get the best 2 seed of the bunch, and we did.
So, let's win a couple at Maples and take it from there. I'll be there.
So, let's win a couple at Maples and take it from there. I'll be there.
I see Virginia Tech vs U Conn as a really tough potential 1/2 elite eight game -- and I think U Conn will prevail if these two meet up. In Seattle, so assuming the Card gets there, we'll be there to see it. Already have our plane tickets and hotel reservations, hope that's not angering the woofing gods. For us, Iowa is a potential tough challenge. We can win it, but not to be assumed. I suspect that Iowa vs Stanford for the last #1 was nearly a coin flip.
I see Virginia Tech vs U Conn as a really tough potential 1/2 elite eight game -- and I think U Conn will prevail if these two meet up. In Seattle, so assuming the Card gets there, we'll be there to see it. Already have our plane tickets and hotel reservations, hope that's not angering the woofing gods. For us, Iowa is a potential tough challenge. We can win it, but not to be assumed. I suspect that Iowa vs Stanford for the last #1 was nearly a coin flip.
(03-12-2023, 05:50 PM)chimera Wrote: I don't hate our draw. Any #2 seed would be tough, and we have to get there first. I don't like playing Gonzaga (if we do end up playing them) because it is boring, been there, done that most every year. But Texas is fine. They aren't that great this season. And who we might play if we get to the F4? Well, just get there first, then it is all gravy to me.
We are on SC side of the bracket so we would play them in Final 4 game. (Indiana, Virginia Tech/ Uconn) on other half.
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2023, 05:59 PM by Card10Fan.)
(03-12-2023, 05:50 PM)chimera Wrote: I don't hate our draw. Any #2 seed would be tough, and we have to get there first. I don't like playing Gonzaga (if we do end up playing them) because it is boring, been there, done that most every year. But Texas is fine. They aren't that great this season. And who we might play if we get to the F4? Well, just get there first, then it is all gravy to me.
We are on SC side of the bracket so we would play them in Final 4 game. (Indiana, Virginia Tech/ Uconn) on other half.
03-12-2023, 06:17 PM
Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Cheers,
Pete F.
03-12-2023, 06:25 PM
(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
03-12-2023, 06:27 PM
(03-12-2023, 05:58 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I see Virginia Tech vs U Conn as a really tough potential 1/2 elite eight game -- and I think U Conn will prevail if these two meet up. In Seattle, so assuming the Card gets there, we'll be there to see it. Already have our plane tickets and hotel reservations, hope that's not angering the woofing gods. For us, Iowa is a potential tough challenge. We can win it, but not to be assumed. I suspect that Iowa vs Stanford for the last #1 was nearly a coin flip.
Of course the selection show interviewer's question for the committee was "What did Stanford do to get a #1 seed over UConn?" Iowa not mentioned.
(03-12-2023, 05:58 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I see Virginia Tech vs U Conn as a really tough potential 1/2 elite eight game -- and I think U Conn will prevail if these two meet up. In Seattle, so assuming the Card gets there, we'll be there to see it. Already have our plane tickets and hotel reservations, hope that's not angering the woofing gods. For us, Iowa is a potential tough challenge. We can win it, but not to be assumed. I suspect that Iowa vs Stanford for the last #1 was nearly a coin flip.
Of course the selection show interviewer's question for the committee was "What did Stanford do to get a #1 seed over UConn?" Iowa not mentioned.
SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
03-12-2023, 06:55 PM
(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
I do not blame Creme picking the Hawkeyes to take the regional over us. We have not looked good lately, whether it's our offense or our inability to hang onto leads. Furthermore, Iowa's offense will be difficult to stop and while their defense is vulnerable, our offensive attack has been looking predictable and anemic recently and may not take full advantage.
And if hunger plays a factor, I am sure Iowa is more than motivated to make a Final Four (for the first time in 30 years) and being "snubbed" for a #1 seed, compared to our speculation that perhaps the team is a little complacent given that we are only two years removed from a national title.
(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
I do not blame Creme picking the Hawkeyes to take the regional over us. We have not looked good lately, whether it's our offense or our inability to hang onto leads. Furthermore, Iowa's offense will be difficult to stop and while their defense is vulnerable, our offensive attack has been looking predictable and anemic recently and may not take full advantage.
And if hunger plays a factor, I am sure Iowa is more than motivated to make a Final Four (for the first time in 30 years) and being "snubbed" for a #1 seed, compared to our speculation that perhaps the team is a little complacent given that we are only two years removed from a national title.
03-12-2023, 07:04 PM
Per 538, Stanford's chances of advancing to: the Sweet 16 are 95%; the Elite 8 - 71%; the Final 4 - 52%; the championship game - 12%; win it all - 7%.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/202...ns/womens/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/202...ns/womens/
Per 538, Stanford's chances of advancing to: the Sweet 16 are 95%; the Elite 8 - 71%; the Final 4 - 52%; the championship game - 12%; win it all - 7%.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/202...ns/womens/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/202...ns/womens/
(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
Of course Lobo would say such thing. I get Iowa's claim to #1 seed and they should have been. But UConn as #1 seed is a joke. I'm rooting hard against UConn. The sooner they are out the better.
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2023, 07:08 PM by cardfan77.)
(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
Of course Lobo would say such thing. I get Iowa's claim to #1 seed and they should have been. But UConn as #1 seed is a joke. I'm rooting hard against UConn. The sooner they are out the better.
03-12-2023, 07:22 PM
I think the bracket is pretty fair and well laid out.
No one has it easy.
There is part of me of course that would wish to be in Virginia Tech's regional; but I like the idea of being South Carolina's spoiler, if we get to the Final Four.
Virginia Tech will have to potentially go through USC and Tennessee en route to the Elite Eight.
I think South Carolina has no walk in the park with UCLA and Maryland, either.
Going to be exciting. Rooting for the Pac-12 success.
No one has it easy.
There is part of me of course that would wish to be in Virginia Tech's regional; but I like the idea of being South Carolina's spoiler, if we get to the Final Four.
Virginia Tech will have to potentially go through USC and Tennessee en route to the Elite Eight.
I think South Carolina has no walk in the park with UCLA and Maryland, either.
Going to be exciting. Rooting for the Pac-12 success.
I think the bracket is pretty fair and well laid out.
No one has it easy.
There is part of me of course that would wish to be in Virginia Tech's regional; but I like the idea of being South Carolina's spoiler, if we get to the Final Four.
Virginia Tech will have to potentially go through USC and Tennessee en route to the Elite Eight.
I think South Carolina has no walk in the park with UCLA and Maryland, either.
Going to be exciting. Rooting for the Pac-12 success.
No one has it easy.
There is part of me of course that would wish to be in Virginia Tech's regional; but I like the idea of being South Carolina's spoiler, if we get to the Final Four.
Virginia Tech will have to potentially go through USC and Tennessee en route to the Elite Eight.
I think South Carolina has no walk in the park with UCLA and Maryland, either.
Going to be exciting. Rooting for the Pac-12 success.
03-12-2023, 07:25 PM
(03-12-2023, 07:07 PM)cardfan77 Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
Of course Lobo would say such thing. I get Iowa's claim to #1 seed and they should have been. But UConn as #1 seed is a joke. I'm rooting hard against UConn. The sooner they are out the better.
Agreed, although I find it hard to root against UCONN this year given the amount of injuries they’ve faced.
(03-12-2023, 07:07 PM)cardfan77 Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: SF Chron sporting green already has an article -- nothing in it that hasn't been covered in the ESPN coverage, but still, here it is. And yes, ESPN is at least consistent -- the U Conn network
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/colle...count=Ng==
And here's ESPN (Creme) take on why Stanford is the #1 seed -- comes down to "body of work" -- but right now on ESPNU broadcast, Lobo says UConn should have been a #1, and Creme is picking Iowa to win the Seattle 2 bracket and go to the final four -- and UConn prevailing in Seattle 1, presumably over Virginia Tech
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-bask...-no-1-seed
Of course Lobo would say such thing. I get Iowa's claim to #1 seed and they should have been. But UConn as #1 seed is a joke. I'm rooting hard against UConn. The sooner they are out the better.
Agreed, although I find it hard to root against UCONN this year given the amount of injuries they’ve faced.
Let us remember that 1) the last time we won a natty, we defeated South Carolina in the semifinals, and 2) we traditionally do better in the 1st game of a weekend than the 2nd. When we won the natty, you could say we over performed in the 1st game against South Carolina and under performed against a team we had defeated decisively two times in the second game.
So if the object is to win a natty, it is better that it be this way than the reverse.
If the object is just to get as far as we can, then of course it would have been better to have an easier foe in the semis.
But all of that is highly theoretical. Defeating Texas and Iowa will be hard. I almost think we would have an easier time against South Carolina than against Iowa. Playing Iowa after a tough game against Texas, as the second game in a weekend, for the first time in years, will undermine the scouting report defense. So the elite 8 game presents itself as a very, very hard game.
And of course we have three we need to win first. And given how things went in the Pac 12 tournament, we can't count on that. Both the games against Old Miss/Gonzaga and Texas will be highly challenging.
That said, I will take 538's odds. After this season, having a 50/50 chance of making to the final four sounds pretty good.
So if the object is to win a natty, it is better that it be this way than the reverse.
If the object is just to get as far as we can, then of course it would have been better to have an easier foe in the semis.
But all of that is highly theoretical. Defeating Texas and Iowa will be hard. I almost think we would have an easier time against South Carolina than against Iowa. Playing Iowa after a tough game against Texas, as the second game in a weekend, for the first time in years, will undermine the scouting report defense. So the elite 8 game presents itself as a very, very hard game.
And of course we have three we need to win first. And given how things went in the Pac 12 tournament, we can't count on that. Both the games against Old Miss/Gonzaga and Texas will be highly challenging.
That said, I will take 538's odds. After this season, having a 50/50 chance of making to the final four sounds pretty good.
Let us remember that 1) the last time we won a natty, we defeated South Carolina in the semifinals, and 2) we traditionally do better in the 1st game of a weekend than the 2nd. When we won the natty, you could say we over performed in the 1st game against South Carolina and under performed against a team we had defeated decisively two times in the second game.
So if the object is to win a natty, it is better that it be this way than the reverse.
If the object is just to get as far as we can, then of course it would have been better to have an easier foe in the semis.
But all of that is highly theoretical. Defeating Texas and Iowa will be hard. I almost think we would have an easier time against South Carolina than against Iowa. Playing Iowa after a tough game against Texas, as the second game in a weekend, for the first time in years, will undermine the scouting report defense. So the elite 8 game presents itself as a very, very hard game.
And of course we have three we need to win first. And given how things went in the Pac 12 tournament, we can't count on that. Both the games against Old Miss/Gonzaga and Texas will be highly challenging.
That said, I will take 538's odds. After this season, having a 50/50 chance of making to the final four sounds pretty good.
So if the object is to win a natty, it is better that it be this way than the reverse.
If the object is just to get as far as we can, then of course it would have been better to have an easier foe in the semis.
But all of that is highly theoretical. Defeating Texas and Iowa will be hard. I almost think we would have an easier time against South Carolina than against Iowa. Playing Iowa after a tough game against Texas, as the second game in a weekend, for the first time in years, will undermine the scouting report defense. So the elite 8 game presents itself as a very, very hard game.
And of course we have three we need to win first. And given how things went in the Pac 12 tournament, we can't count on that. Both the games against Old Miss/Gonzaga and Texas will be highly challenging.
That said, I will take 538's odds. After this season, having a 50/50 chance of making to the final four sounds pretty good.
03-12-2023, 08:07 PM
(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
03-12-2023, 08:28 PM
Last year 1st game was at 4:30 followed by Stanford around 7:00.
(03-12-2023, 08:07 PM)stopandpop Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
Last year 1st game was at 4:30 followed by Stanford around 7:00.
(03-12-2023, 08:07 PM)stopandpop Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
03-12-2023, 08:40 PM
(03-12-2023, 08:28 PM)petersalas Wrote: Last year 1st game was at 4:30 followed by Stanford around 7:00.
(03-12-2023, 08:07 PM)stopandpop Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
Oh, right! Anyone recall if there was an issue with parking, since most requires a permit before 4 p.m.?
(03-12-2023, 08:28 PM)petersalas Wrote: Last year 1st game was at 4:30 followed by Stanford around 7:00.
(03-12-2023, 08:07 PM)stopandpop Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:25 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(03-12-2023, 06:17 PM)pefloresjr Wrote: Have they posted the game times for Friday and Sunday yet? All I can seem to find are the days of the games.
Cheers,
Pete F.
Haven't seen them, but for us, likely to be 6 pm and 8:30 -- but don't know which Stanford would be in. Anyone with better info?
In the recent past, we have played in the 2nd. game.
Oh, right! Anyone recall if there was an issue with parking, since most requires a permit before 4 p.m.?
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