07-20-2023, 08:18 AM
Draft of new bipartisan NIL bill calls for central oversight entity to enforce rules - The Athletic
Cory Booker is involved.
Cory Booker is involved.
Outside Topic NIL proposed federal legislation.
Draft of new bipartisan NIL bill calls for central oversight entity to enforce rules - The Athletic
Cory Booker is involved.
Cory Booker is involved.
07-20-2023, 11:48 AM
(07-20-2023, 08:18 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote: Draft of new bipartisan NIL bill calls for central oversight entity to enforce rules - The Athletic
Cory Booker is involved.
How about Tuberville?
(07-20-2023, 08:18 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote: Draft of new bipartisan NIL bill calls for central oversight entity to enforce rules - The Athletic
Cory Booker is involved.
How about Tuberville?
07-20-2023, 12:45 PM
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How about Tuberville?
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He might be too busy with his remedial classes - civics, government, WWII history, etc.
How about Tuberville?
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He might be too busy with his remedial classes - civics, government, WWII history, etc.
07-20-2023, 12:49 PM
How about Tuberville?
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He might be too busy with his remedial classes - civics, government, WWII history, etc.
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How about three more: Introduction to Logic, Public Speaking, and Military Leadership 101?
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He might be too busy with his remedial classes - civics, government, WWII history, etc.
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How about three more: Introduction to Logic, Public Speaking, and Military Leadership 101?
07-20-2023, 02:28 PM
Got a complaint about this thread too. Let's veer back away from the more Fox/MSNBC style political takes/takedowns, or else we'll need to close this up, and this issue is relevant to all things Stanford sports, so it'd be nice if we can keep the convo going.
07-20-2023, 04:07 PM
Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
Thanks - and lest there be any remaining doubt, yours was not the post that triggered the complaint.
Will look forward to others' views on the latest legislation. I personally find it interesting that they're proposing to establish an unaffiliated, non-governmental org to monitor, track, and audit all NIL deals, etc. Isn't that just the beginning of a new NCAA, with a high probability of all the same critiques down the road? (E.g., "it's too ad hoc! it moves too slow! the penalties have no teeth!" "it's anti-player!") OTOH, for all the NCAA has self-owned over the years, I've never really understood the calls to eliminate it, because at the end of the day, in college sports, the players can't be counted on to referee themselves, on or off the field. It seems like this legislation continues to concede to that reality...
(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
Thanks - and lest there be any remaining doubt, yours was not the post that triggered the complaint.
Will look forward to others' views on the latest legislation. I personally find it interesting that they're proposing to establish an unaffiliated, non-governmental org to monitor, track, and audit all NIL deals, etc. Isn't that just the beginning of a new NCAA, with a high probability of all the same critiques down the road? (E.g., "it's too ad hoc! it moves too slow! the penalties have no teeth!" "it's anti-player!") OTOH, for all the NCAA has self-owned over the years, I've never really understood the calls to eliminate it, because at the end of the day, in college sports, the players can't be counted on to referee themselves, on or off the field. It seems like this legislation continues to concede to that reality...
07-20-2023, 05:34 PM
Setting up a review committee to oversee and set standards for college athlete compensation, financial eligibility and movement, that would apply to all states, would be significant. Nothing in the discussion piece even hints at possible punishment for those who run afoul of the new - what would be - federal regulations for the college sports business, but it sounds like this body would have the legal authority to rule athletes and institutions ineligible to participate in competition if they do. It looks to me like there would be an effort to stop NIL collectives in their tracks in terms of offering athletes compensation as an inducement to sign an LOI.
There would be enforcement teeth, as the words that most got my attention were "would have subpoena power." Meaning, whatever rules are set, investigators would be empowered to find proof of cheating and law breaking. The NCAA has never had subpoena power ever, and really could not do real investigations absent that ability.
If the subpoena power includes access to bank and financial records, the new committee can basically do the investigations the NCAA can't, and turn over findings to the NCAA so it can take disciplinary action against rule breakers. A law of the type being suggested could turn the NCAA from Inspector Cluseau into the FBI overnight.
There would be enforcement teeth, as the words that most got my attention were "would have subpoena power." Meaning, whatever rules are set, investigators would be empowered to find proof of cheating and law breaking. The NCAA has never had subpoena power ever, and really could not do real investigations absent that ability.
If the subpoena power includes access to bank and financial records, the new committee can basically do the investigations the NCAA can't, and turn over findings to the NCAA so it can take disciplinary action against rule breakers. A law of the type being suggested could turn the NCAA from Inspector Cluseau into the FBI overnight.
Setting up a review committee to oversee and set standards for college athlete compensation, financial eligibility and movement, that would apply to all states, would be significant. Nothing in the discussion piece even hints at possible punishment for those who run afoul of the new - what would be - federal regulations for the college sports business, but it sounds like this body would have the legal authority to rule athletes and institutions ineligible to participate in competition if they do. It looks to me like there would be an effort to stop NIL collectives in their tracks in terms of offering athletes compensation as an inducement to sign an LOI.
There would be enforcement teeth, as the words that most got my attention were "would have subpoena power." Meaning, whatever rules are set, investigators would be empowered to find proof of cheating and law breaking. The NCAA has never had subpoena power ever, and really could not do real investigations absent that ability.
If the subpoena power includes access to bank and financial records, the new committee can basically do the investigations the NCAA can't, and turn over findings to the NCAA so it can take disciplinary action against rule breakers. A law of the type being suggested could turn the NCAA from Inspector Cluseau into the FBI overnight.
There would be enforcement teeth, as the words that most got my attention were "would have subpoena power." Meaning, whatever rules are set, investigators would be empowered to find proof of cheating and law breaking. The NCAA has never had subpoena power ever, and really could not do real investigations absent that ability.
If the subpoena power includes access to bank and financial records, the new committee can basically do the investigations the NCAA can't, and turn over findings to the NCAA so it can take disciplinary action against rule breakers. A law of the type being suggested could turn the NCAA from Inspector Cluseau into the FBI overnight.
07-20-2023, 07:07 PM
(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
07-20-2023, 08:50 PM
(07-20-2023, 07:07 PM)BigEasyCard Wrote:It is great that at least some of the Congress has finally realized that without statutory authority governance of college athletics is impossible. I am surprised that they are getting this far this quickly. I actually feared it would require a total meltdown to get anybody's attention. The question now is whether they can actually pass whatever they come up with.(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
(07-20-2023, 07:07 PM)BigEasyCard Wrote:It is great that at least some of the Congress has finally realized that without statutory authority governance of college athletics is impossible. I am surprised that they are getting this far this quickly. I actually feared it would require a total meltdown to get anybody's attention. The question now is whether they can actually pass whatever they come up with.(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
07-21-2023, 12:54 AM
(07-20-2023, 10:54 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Lane KiffIn on NILYou know the system is a complete, unmitigated disaster when Lane Kiffin complains about ethics.
(07-20-2023, 10:54 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Lane KiffIn on NILYou know the system is a complete, unmitigated disaster when Lane Kiffin complains about ethics.
07-21-2023, 09:47 AM
(07-20-2023, 08:50 PM)Goose Wrote:About 90% of legislation introduced in Congress is designed to placate constituents and assure them that a member is "working on the problem" with no intention of it ever getting out of committee. In other words, it remains to be seen if either of these efforts are genuine. It is encouraging that each of them is associated with someone who knows something about college sports. On the other hand, there have been more than half a dozen hearings on the matter and nothing has yet come out of committee. That suggests that there is no urgency, and this could stagnate until there is some massive public relations disaster associated with NIL.(07-20-2023, 07:07 PM)BigEasyCard Wrote:It is great that at least some of the Congress has finally realized that without statutory authority governance of college athletics is impossible. I am surprised that they are getting this far this quickly. I actually feared it would require a total meltdown to get anybody's attention. The question now is whether they can actually pass whatever they come up with.(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
(07-20-2023, 08:50 PM)Goose Wrote:About 90% of legislation introduced in Congress is designed to placate constituents and assure them that a member is "working on the problem" with no intention of it ever getting out of committee. In other words, it remains to be seen if either of these efforts are genuine. It is encouraging that each of them is associated with someone who knows something about college sports. On the other hand, there have been more than half a dozen hearings on the matter and nothing has yet come out of committee. That suggests that there is no urgency, and this could stagnate until there is some massive public relations disaster associated with NIL.(07-20-2023, 07:07 PM)BigEasyCard Wrote:It is great that at least some of the Congress has finally realized that without statutory authority governance of college athletics is impossible. I am surprised that they are getting this far this quickly. I actually feared it would require a total meltdown to get anybody's attention. The question now is whether they can actually pass whatever they come up with.(07-20-2023, 04:07 PM)PalmTree Wrote: Let the record show I only brought up Tuberville because of his SEC/Big 12 affiliation, thinking that having him and Cory Booker on the same subcommittee duking it out over all-things-NIL would be a popcorn-worthy event - nothing more, nothing less.
There are at least two initiatives in the Senate right now. One is led by Tommy Tuberville and Joe Manchin:
New draft NIL legislation grants NCAA great authority - Sports Illustrated
The other involves Cory Booker: 3 U.S. Senators release bipartisan draft of federal NIL legislation for college sports (yahoo.com)
Geaux Cardinal!
07-21-2023, 10:01 AM
(07-21-2023, 09:47 AM)81alum Wrote: About 90% of legislation introduced in Congress is designed to placate constituents and assure them that a member is "working on the problem" with no intention of it ever getting out of committee. In other words, it remains to be seen if either of these efforts are genuine. It is encouraging that each of them is associated with someone who knows something about college sports. On the other hand, there have been more than half a dozen hearings on the matter and nothing has yet come out of committee. That suggests that there is no urgency, and this could stagnate until there is some massive public relations disaster associated with NIL.
+1, and NIL legislation is probably not in the top 10 items that most people would want to see congress working on
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(07-21-2023, 09:47 AM)81alum Wrote: About 90% of legislation introduced in Congress is designed to placate constituents and assure them that a member is "working on the problem" with no intention of it ever getting out of committee. In other words, it remains to be seen if either of these efforts are genuine. It is encouraging that each of them is associated with someone who knows something about college sports. On the other hand, there have been more than half a dozen hearings on the matter and nothing has yet come out of committee. That suggests that there is no urgency, and this could stagnate until there is some massive public relations disaster associated with NIL.
+1, and NIL legislation is probably not in the top 10 items that most people would want to see congress working on
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
07-21-2023, 10:04 AM
I agree that while good to see these proposals, a signed bill probably far on the horizon. That being said, thankfully this doesn't really seem to be a partisan issue yet so maybe there is hope.
07-21-2023, 02:50 PM
(07-21-2023, 12:54 AM)81alum Wrote:(07-20-2023, 10:54 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Lane KiffIn on NILYou know the system is a complete, unmitigated disaster when Lane Kiffin complains about ethics.
Exactly.
(07-21-2023, 12:54 AM)81alum Wrote:(07-20-2023, 10:54 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Lane KiffIn on NILYou know the system is a complete, unmitigated disaster when Lane Kiffin complains about ethics.
Exactly.
07-25-2023, 02:51 PM
Quote:Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville and West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin introduced a bipartisan bill aimed at addressing name, image and likeness [NIL] issues in college sports on Tuesday. The bill, titled the "Protecting Athletes, Schools, and Sports (PASS) Act of 2023," was characterized in a press release as the "culmination of a year-long initiative" in which Tuberville and Manchin collaborated with various parties to draft guidelines surrounding NIL compensation for NCAA athletes.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...athletics/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
Quote:Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville and West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin introduced a bipartisan bill aimed at addressing name, image and likeness [NIL] issues in college sports on Tuesday. The bill, titled the "Protecting Athletes, Schools, and Sports (PASS) Act of 2023," was characterized in a press release as the "culmination of a year-long initiative" in which Tuberville and Manchin collaborated with various parties to draft guidelines surrounding NIL compensation for NCAA athletes.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...athletics/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
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