[JohnR34231]

Oh well, at least it was exciting as opposed to the last four.
We had the momentum in Q4 and then we lost it.

[JohnR34231]

Oh well, at least it was exciting as opposed to the last four.
We had the momentum in Q4 and then we lost it.

[gailtate]

2-10.

[gailtate]

2-10.

[old spanish trail]

Not alot of confidence in Taylor in my household, sorry to say.

[old spanish trail]

Not alot of confidence in Taylor in my household, sorry to say.

[JohnR34231]

2-10.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[JohnR34231]

2-10.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Austroturf]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

Depressing.  The team did everything to lose the game, yet somehow had a shot at the end, then gifted the ball back to Wake Forest in crunch time.  Every time Stanford looked to be righting the ship, they committed the next turnover.  It was almost comical.  Taylor is clearly not what we all had hoped he would be.

[Austroturf]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

Depressing.  The team did everything to lose the game, yet somehow had a shot at the end, then gifted the ball back to Wake Forest in crunch time.  Every time Stanford looked to be righting the ship, they committed the next turnover.  It was almost comical.  Taylor is clearly not what we all had hoped he would be.

[76lsjumb]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

Is there a place to which fans can donate to fund such a revolt…?

[76lsjumb]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

Is there a place to which fans can donate to fund such a revolt…?

[SkiBum80]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

[SkiBum80]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

[MarinCard]

Any guesses on actual (not announced, as we know that's goosed) attendance at our last home game vs Louisville? 5k? 7k? Maybe it shocks the administration into some kind of action to alter our current trajectory, but I'm not betting on it.

[MarinCard]

Any guesses on actual (not announced, as we know that's goosed) attendance at our last home game vs Louisville? 5k? 7k? Maybe it shocks the administration into some kind of action to alter our current trajectory, but I'm not betting on it.

[martyup]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

[martyup]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

[FarmTeam]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

I don't find that pathetic at all. I went to maybe 1/3 of our home games when I was an undergrad and certainly never felt like I was doing the team a disservice nor that I was obligated to attend more games. Should the football players be scolded for not attending cross country and track meets (my sport)? Ok, how about men's basketball games?

More seriously, students' lack of support is a symptom of the problem, which is a terrible team and a terrible game experience. They'll come when/if it's fun to come. Let's focus on what the real problem is: Muir and an incompetent/indifferent administration.

[FarmTeam]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

I don't find that pathetic at all. I went to maybe 1/3 of our home games when I was an undergrad and certainly never felt like I was doing the team a disservice nor that I was obligated to attend more games. Should the football players be scolded for not attending cross country and track meets (my sport)? Ok, how about men's basketball games?

More seriously, students' lack of support is a symptom of the problem, which is a terrible team and a terrible game experience. They'll come when/if it's fun to come. Let's focus on what the real problem is: Muir and an incompetent/indifferent administration.

[paloalto]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

It's the students' choice how to spend their time.  My son got a BS and MS from Stanford.  He never went to a football game.  He had to interest in it.  Even though I'm an enthusiast of sports I had no problem with him not wanting to sit for three hours watching a sport that didn't appeal to him.

[paloalto]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

It's the students' choice how to spend their time.  My son got a BS and MS from Stanford.  He never went to a football game.  He had to interest in it.  Even though I'm an enthusiast of sports I had no problem with him not wanting to sit for three hours watching a sport that didn't appeal to him.

[Section QQ]

I go back to 1967 and there are fewer people here than we had against WSU in a monsoon.

I was at that game too - but we won 58-0.  I have not missed a home game in years, but I'm not sure how much longer I can watch this clown show.

[Section QQ]

I go back to 1967 and there are fewer people here than we had against WSU in a monsoon.

I was at that game too - but we won 58-0.  I have not missed a home game in years, but I'm not sure how much longer I can watch this clown show.

[CPSteeple]

A&M is hosting LSU tonight and wearing all-black uniforms for the first time at home. The stadium is packed (100,000 plus). Somehow, virtually all of the spectators are also dressed in black, wearing #12 jerseys for the "12th man" tradition. A&M has an institutional commitment to excellence in football, even if it often falls short of that standard.

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

I continue to believe Stanford can compete at the highest levels in the sport, but not without a level of commitment comparable to what we see among other Power 4 members.

Agreed. It was very discouraging being at the game seeing how empty the stadium was. Can only imagine how the players feel. It has to be a tough sell to recruits as well (though obviously gameday atmosphere is just one aspect contributing to those decisions)

[CPSteeple]

A&M is hosting LSU tonight and wearing all-black uniforms for the first time at home. The stadium is packed (100,000 plus). Somehow, virtually all of the spectators are also dressed in black, wearing #12 jerseys for the "12th man" tradition. A&M has an institutional commitment to excellence in football, even if it often falls short of that standard.

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

I continue to believe Stanford can compete at the highest levels in the sport, but not without a level of commitment comparable to what we see among other Power 4 members.

Agreed. It was very discouraging being at the game seeing how empty the stadium was. Can only imagine how the players feel. It has to be a tough sell to recruits as well (though obviously gameday atmosphere is just one aspect contributing to those decisions)

[MV72018]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

I’ll vomit.

[MV72018]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

I’ll vomit.

[Spiny_Norman]

If Stanford cannot knock off Louisville in the home finale, we are looking at nearly 3 years (and counting) without a home victory over a FBS opponent when next season starts. That's a tough product to sell to the local fans.

[Spiny_Norman]

If Stanford cannot knock off Louisville in the home finale, we are looking at nearly 3 years (and counting) without a home victory over a FBS opponent when next season starts. That's a tough product to sell to the local fans.

[CPSteeple]

A&M is hosting LSU tonight and wearing all-black uniforms for the first time at home. The stadium is packed (100,000 plus). Somehow, virtually all of the spectators are also dressed in black, wearing #12 jerseys for the "12th man" tradition. A&M has an institutional commitment to excellence in football, even if it often falls short of that standard.

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

I continue to believe Stanford can compete at the highest levels in the sport, but not without a level of commitment comparable to what we see among other Power 4 members.

Agreed. It was very discouraging being at the game seeing how empty the stadium was. Can only imagine how the players feel. It has to be a tough sell to recruits as well (though obviously gameday atmosphere is just one aspect contributing to those decisions)

[CPSteeple]

A&M is hosting LSU tonight and wearing all-black uniforms for the first time at home. The stadium is packed (100,000 plus). Somehow, virtually all of the spectators are also dressed in black, wearing #12 jerseys for the "12th man" tradition. A&M has an institutional commitment to excellence in football, even if it often falls short of that standard.

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

I continue to believe Stanford can compete at the highest levels in the sport, but not without a level of commitment comparable to what we see among other Power 4 members.

Agreed. It was very discouraging being at the game seeing how empty the stadium was. Can only imagine how the players feel. It has to be a tough sell to recruits as well (though obviously gameday atmosphere is just one aspect contributing to those decisions)

[martyup]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

I don't find that pathetic at all. . . .Should the football players be scolded for not attending cross country and track meets (my sport)? Ok, how about men's basketball games?

They don't build 50,000 seat stadiums to watch cross country, track meets, or basketball games.  I didn't refer to other varsity athletes attending football games.  I referred to Stanford students in general.  I also didn't condemn the non-attending students. I just think that it is pathetic that there is such lack of support by Stanford students. In my 4 years at Stanford, we never made a bowl game.  But, our home games were well attended by students.

Perhaps the root cause of this lack of student support is the Stanford administration's assault on everything fun.  I really don't think if we were 5-2 rather than 2-5 it would have made much difference in attendance at today's game.

[martyup]

I'm not sure which more pathetic.  Our football team or Stanford students' lack of support for our team.  It was a beautiful sunny Saturday at Stanford Stadium.  No excuse for our students to be absent.

I don't find that pathetic at all. . . .Should the football players be scolded for not attending cross country and track meets (my sport)? Ok, how about men's basketball games?

They don't build 50,000 seat stadiums to watch cross country, track meets, or basketball games.  I didn't refer to other varsity athletes attending football games.  I referred to Stanford students in general.  I also didn't condemn the non-attending students. I just think that it is pathetic that there is such lack of support by Stanford students. In my 4 years at Stanford, we never made a bowl game.  But, our home games were well attended by students.

Perhaps the root cause of this lack of student support is the Stanford administration's assault on everything fun.  I really don't think if we were 5-2 rather than 2-5 it would have made much difference in attendance at today's game.

[MV72018]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

I’ll vomit.

[MV72018]

What a lousy outcome. At least a blowout loss would have me fired up about TT getting fired.

Mark Richt on the post-game show calling out TT. "How often does a double-move work twice in a row?" Players talking about how Elic was just gassed on the final play given his targets/effort on the last drive. 

Both true, but--absent a player revolt--TT is going to get a third year, and we all know it.

If in the post game presser, or next one Tues, if Coach says “we are young..” I’ll nod my head in agreement
If he adds “we are improving..” I’ll wince

I’ll vomit.

[CowboyIndian]

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

Really?? Because at A&M he will be discouraged from studying engineering, especially if and when the labs collide with practice or film study.

[CowboyIndian]

Consider the young man who wants to study engineering in college and is also an excellent football player. Why choose Stanford over Texas A&M? Both have good engineering programs, but the former provides a near-empty stadium, the latter an incredible game-day atmosphere.

Really?? Because at A&M he will be discouraged from studying engineering, especially if and when the labs collide with practice or film study.

[fullmetal]

Agreed with CowboyIndian -- football is the primary religion at A&M (don't let anyone convince you otherwise).  As bad as their AD/management is, they sure funnel a lot of resources into football.  The kids there didn't go there to play school, as Cardale Jones succinctly put it.  Competing with kids who don't treat academics with respect is very tough.

I have to remind myself that a decent QB would probably be a +2 or +3 win improvement over this team's eventual record.  I don't think Taylor needs to publicly throw his kids under the bus, but he doesn't have a guy yet.  Hope his staff is recruiting hard.

[fullmetal]

Agreed with CowboyIndian -- football is the primary religion at A&M (don't let anyone convince you otherwise).  As bad as their AD/management is, they sure funnel a lot of resources into football.  The kids there didn't go there to play school, as Cardale Jones succinctly put it.  Competing with kids who don't treat academics with respect is very tough.

I have to remind myself that a decent QB would probably be a +2 or +3 win improvement over this team's eventual record.  I don't think Taylor needs to publicly throw his kids under the bus, but he doesn't have a guy yet.  Hope his staff is recruiting hard.