04-27-2025, 04:16 PM
Who wants to take a stab at listing the (football) starters for each position this year?
Projected Starters?
Who wants to take a stab at listing the (football) starters for each position this year?
Just a stab, higher confidence guesses come in August:
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
Just a stab, higher confidence guesses come in August:
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
04-28-2025, 06:12 AM
(04-28-2025, 05:30 AM)msqueri Wrote: Just a stab, higher confidence guesses come in August:
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
Here's another question. Do you think this bunch has a shot at winning a few games (like more than three)?
(04-28-2025, 05:30 AM)msqueri Wrote: Just a stab, higher confidence guesses come in August:
QB: Close to a tossup between Brown and Rizk, maybe edge to Brown
RB: Seems wide open, tentative guess is Ford with a committee behind him (Davis, Altahir, Tabb, Irvin)
WR: I see Pantelis (not here yet), Hall (not here yet), Williams, and High as the guys but with this so newcomer dominated I want to see what things look like this summer, in terms of whether Bachmeier can defend his time, whether the relatively oft-mentioned Onovughe pushes, etc.
TE: Roush established as the starter, Blackburn most likely TE2
OL: Current guess is Prongos-Leyrer-Mejia (not here yet)-Pale-House with Anderson having a real shot at supplanting one of them. Interested in more data points on if Brown is ready to emerge or was starting this spring just because we don’t have anybody else.
DL: This is maybe the most low-key underrated competition as I see lots of options for what will be 3-4 guys with significant snaps. Franklin, Buckey, Rowell, Marceau-Olayinka, and Patterson are fairly established, Staples started to emerge last year, Asiain has been getting buzz for a while, and there are others too (Murray interesting, fans will all be pulling for Umeh, etc.).
OLB: Tafiti, Cooper, and Aybar. Very clear it seems.
ILB: Galvan, Rose, and Johnson appear to be the top of this position.
DB: I’d peg the key group as Wright, Washington (not here yet), Green, Leigber, Edwards, Ojarikre. Corner depth behind Wright and Washington likely to start with Morris and Nicholson. Safety is deep enough that nickel options appear to come from there (e.g., Green or Ojarikre), though I like the idea of having your best guy (Wright) at nickel and it would be interesting if we have adequate depth at corner to get creative with Wright (I sort of doubt it). Sumlin probably next safety up.
Here's another question. Do you think this bunch has a shot at winning a few games (like more than three)?
04-28-2025, 06:20 AM
Only if QB1 is good, which I think is possible but not probable, or if Luck and Reich totally transform the team’s mojo/morale/execution, which I think is unlikely given that Luck has opted for extreme continuity from Taylor’s approach/staff.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
Only if QB1 is good, which I think is possible but not probable, or if Luck and Reich totally transform the team’s mojo/morale/execution, which I think is unlikely given that Luck has opted for extreme continuity from Taylor’s approach/staff.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
04-28-2025, 08:50 AM
(04-28-2025, 06:20 AM)msqueri Wrote: Only if QB1 is good, which I think is possible but not probable, or if Luck and Reich totally transform the team’s mojo/morale/execution, which I think is unlikely given that Luck has opted for extreme continuity from Taylor’s approach/staff.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(04-28-2025, 06:20 AM)msqueri Wrote: Only if QB1 is good, which I think is possible but not probable, or if Luck and Reich totally transform the team’s mojo/morale/execution, which I think is unlikely given that Luck has opted for extreme continuity from Taylor’s approach/staff.
I think five or six wins is possible and it’s what I’ll be rooting for but as of now it looks like continuity with a remarkable stretch of six consecutive 3-4 win seasons.
Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
04-28-2025, 06:13 PM
(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
04-29-2025, 06:25 AM
(04-28-2025, 06:13 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
I feel the same way. With an NFL coach, new attitude and rigor, new players, the assistants learn along the way...six wins. Maybe seven. Hawaii, Virginia, SJSU, FSU, Pitt. That's five, and one of: Cal, UNC, Notre Dame.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(04-28-2025, 06:13 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
I feel the same way. With an NFL coach, new attitude and rigor, new players, the assistants learn along the way...six wins. Maybe seven. Hawaii, Virginia, SJSU, FSU, Pitt. That's five, and one of: Cal, UNC, Notre Dame.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
04-29-2025, 08:50 PM
(04-29-2025, 06:25 AM)Mick Wrote:Really? Wow. I'm admittedly more of a basketball guy, but I was thinking 2-3 wins given that we're basically starting from scratch. I'll now be more optimistic.(04-28-2025, 06:13 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
I feel the same way. With an NFL coach, new attitude and rigor, new players, the assistants learn along the way...six wins. Maybe seven. Hawaii, Virginia, SJSU, FSU, Pitt. That's five, and one of: Cal, UNC, Notre Dame.
(04-29-2025, 06:25 AM)Mick Wrote:Really? Wow. I'm admittedly more of a basketball guy, but I was thinking 2-3 wins given that we're basically starting from scratch. I'll now be more optimistic.(04-28-2025, 06:13 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(04-28-2025, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Only if Taylor was really holding both the players and the assistants back. Could be, but I don't think so. Still think we get six wins.
I don't think he was holding back a 12-0 team or anything, but I do think he cost them some or all of the TCU, SJSU, WF, and Cal games -- I suspect a better coach could have won 2 or 3 of those games.
I feel the same way. With an NFL coach, new attitude and rigor, new players, the assistants learn along the way...six wins. Maybe seven. Hawaii, Virginia, SJSU, FSU, Pitt. That's five, and one of: Cal, UNC, Notre Dame.
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