[winflop]

...I think Shaw can sustain a 6 - 10 win team with occasional ups and downs around that.  I think we will be in the conversation for a conference title; I don't think we will win it at the same clip as Shaw did his first five years.  There will be room for improvement, and we will debate that ad nauseum on this board.

BC

I share this view.  And I think that's a great scenario for Stanford, substantially elevated from our historical (pre-Harbaugh/Shaw) performance and as much as can be expected from a coaching staff over a sustained period.

I do not share this view unless he demonstrates that he is willing to make changes in his staff. I don't see this team doing any better than 6 wins next season, and I don't see 10-win potential in this program without significant changes to the staff.

[winflop]

...I think Shaw can sustain a 6 - 10 win team with occasional ups and downs around that.  I think we will be in the conversation for a conference title; I don't think we will win it at the same clip as Shaw did his first five years.  There will be room for improvement, and we will debate that ad nauseum on this board.

BC

I share this view.  And I think that's a great scenario for Stanford, substantially elevated from our historical (pre-Harbaugh/Shaw) performance and as much as can be expected from a coaching staff over a sustained period.

I do not share this view unless he demonstrates that he is willing to make changes in his staff. I don't see this team doing any better than 6 wins next season, and I don't see 10-win potential in this program without significant changes to the staff.