[SeattleTree]

[quote author=terry link=topic=14220.msg150019#msg150019 date=1451538575]
[quote author=BrewHawk link=topic=14220.msg150016#msg150016 date=1451537499]
This is the second "comment" that this author has posted from Iowa players who just don't say things like this...ever.  It's not the Hawkeye way.

The guy is a hack and stirring the pot.

Hey, it's not the reporter's fault that some players are running their mouths.
[/quote]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths.  At least, not since Matt Roth in 2004 before we beat LSU in the Cap One Bowl, and he was just plain nuts.

We don't have disrespectful players in any way, shape or form.  That's all I'm trying to say.  Nobody else caught these quotes and they're pretty significant.
[/quote]

So you're accusing the reporter of just making this up?  Apparently disrespect runs deep in Hawkeye-ville. I really hope Mr King gets to test out his boast against Mr Garnett.

[SeattleTree]

[quote author=terry link=topic=14220.msg150019#msg150019 date=1451538575]
[quote author=BrewHawk link=topic=14220.msg150016#msg150016 date=1451537499]
This is the second "comment" that this author has posted from Iowa players who just don't say things like this...ever.  It's not the Hawkeye way.

The guy is a hack and stirring the pot.

Hey, it's not the reporter's fault that some players are running their mouths.
[/quote]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths.  At least, not since Matt Roth in 2004 before we beat LSU in the Cap One Bowl, and he was just plain nuts.

We don't have disrespectful players in any way, shape or form.  That's all I'm trying to say.  Nobody else caught these quotes and they're pretty significant.
[/quote]

So you're accusing the reporter of just making this up?  Apparently disrespect runs deep in Hawkeye-ville. I really hope Mr King gets to test out his boast against Mr Garnett.

[terry]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths. 

Yet they did.

[terry]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths. 

Yet they did.

[Rally]

[quote author=BrewHawk link=topic=14220.msg150044#msg150044 date=1451566010]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths. 

Yet they did.
[/quote]

Well, one did, anyway.

[Rally]

[quote author=BrewHawk link=topic=14220.msg150044#msg150044 date=1451566010]

That's just it, Iowa players don't run their mouths. 

Yet they did.
[/quote]

Well, one did, anyway.

[terry]

Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/

[terry]

Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/

[yvonne]

and on the other side of the contest, here are quotes from our coach and star player:

"They've had a phenomenal season, and when you watch them, you see why," Shaw said. "They make plays, they don't miss tackles, they're very physical on the defensive line, they're very smart on the offensive side, keeping you off balance, but also being very tough and physical. They're a really, really well-rounded team with not a lot of places to look for weaknesses."

...
"This year they've put together a special season, and I liken it to our season," Shaw said. "I always just kind of watched them. Here they are at 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0, 5-0, and nobody pays attention to them. And after we lost to Northwestern, we won a couple of games in a row, but nobody cared. But you've got a bunch of smart kids, a bunch of tough kids, a bunch of kids who play hard. And the respect that they got, they earned, because it didn't come naturally for them, it didn't come easy for them."

and

"We understand the challenges that we face playing an Iowa team," McCaffrey said. "But at the end of the day, you ask any team, and you gotta focus on you and the things that you can control. And that's doing your job and doing it to the best of your ability."

I'll take our guys' approach anyway. If you lose you don't look like fools, and if you win, you don't look like jerks.

[yvonne]

and on the other side of the contest, here are quotes from our coach and star player:

"They've had a phenomenal season, and when you watch them, you see why," Shaw said. "They make plays, they don't miss tackles, they're very physical on the defensive line, they're very smart on the offensive side, keeping you off balance, but also being very tough and physical. They're a really, really well-rounded team with not a lot of places to look for weaknesses."

...
"This year they've put together a special season, and I liken it to our season," Shaw said. "I always just kind of watched them. Here they are at 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0, 5-0, and nobody pays attention to them. And after we lost to Northwestern, we won a couple of games in a row, but nobody cared. But you've got a bunch of smart kids, a bunch of tough kids, a bunch of kids who play hard. And the respect that they got, they earned, because it didn't come naturally for them, it didn't come easy for them."

and

"We understand the challenges that we face playing an Iowa team," McCaffrey said. "But at the end of the day, you ask any team, and you gotta focus on you and the things that you can control. And that's doing your job and doing it to the best of your ability."

I'll take our guys' approach anyway. If you lose you don't look like fools, and if you win, you don't look like jerks.

[GoodGrief]

This is the second "comment" that this author has posted from Iowa players who just don't say things like this...ever.  It's not the Hawkeye way.

The guy is a hack and stirring the pot.

I was wondering why somebody would say something so stupid. After reading a longer interview with King, I agree with BrewHawk that the Daily writer was stirring the pot.

First, the link to the article reads http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...sh-garnett while the actual headline reads, "Iowa cornerback Desmond King expects to be able to ‘take out’ Josh Garnett". So I'm guessing somebody got a little overzealous with the original title of the article and included the word "pancake" until somebody else realized that that word never appeared in the interview.

The article I found with more of that interview is at https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1840315. In that interview King is very complimentary of Stanford . There's no full video of the interview, so impossible to say exactly what was said, but in that article, The Garnett part comes up here:
Q. So what is your strategy? If you see Josh Garnett pulling against you, you're probably not going to take him on size-wise, right?
DESMOND KING: I took somebody out that size before, my freshman year against LSU, I think his name was Landon Collins, one of the big guards, big tackles. He did the same thing, and I knocked him over. We both fell out, if you really want to know. We both fell out on the ground, but I eliminated him out of the play.

I'm looking forward to the same thing. I know he's a big guy, and he's very (indiscernible), as well. He's a hard-nosed tackle, and he can make something happen.

So I think the key is what is King referring to when he says, "I'm looking forward to the same thing." When King says, "the same thing," if he was referring to the challenge of a big lineman pulling against him, that's not trash-talking. If he meant, "taking out Josh Garnett," then that's bulletin board material. But at least based on this interview transcript, it sure seems ambiguous, and if it's ambiguous, it's irresponsible of the Daily article to quote King as saying, "He did the same thing, and I knocked him over… I’m looking forward to the same thing [against Garnett].”

But no matter what, I absolutely loved Garnett's response. Btw, what I found most interesting about that article was this exchange:

Q. You said that the way they kind of operate their offense, those calls in the huddle, and they'll go up and check at the line of scrimmage. Have you seen any keys on film on what [Hogan] can do in certain situations?
DESMOND KING: I know I picked out one, but I'm not sure if that's an actual check. So I'm going to be looking for it in the game, and if it is, then I'll know exactly what's going on.

Q. Don't want to share it, I'm assuming?
DESMOND KING: No.

So that's interesting and a little ominous. I remember the announcers last year pointing out that Barry J was telegraphing certain plays (something like scanning the line only on run plays?), and this year, Harris & Meeks recognized that WSU were about to run a screen play which enabled Meeks to jump the route and intercept it. Sure hope King hasn't seen something.

[GoodGrief]

This is the second "comment" that this author has posted from Iowa players who just don't say things like this...ever.  It's not the Hawkeye way.

The guy is a hack and stirring the pot.

I was wondering why somebody would say something so stupid. After reading a longer interview with King, I agree with BrewHawk that the Daily writer was stirring the pot.

First, the link to the article reads http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...sh-garnett while the actual headline reads, "Iowa cornerback Desmond King expects to be able to ‘take out’ Josh Garnett". So I'm guessing somebody got a little overzealous with the original title of the article and included the word "pancake" until somebody else realized that that word never appeared in the interview.

The article I found with more of that interview is at https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1840315. In that interview King is very complimentary of Stanford . There's no full video of the interview, so impossible to say exactly what was said, but in that article, The Garnett part comes up here:
Q. So what is your strategy? If you see Josh Garnett pulling against you, you're probably not going to take him on size-wise, right?
DESMOND KING: I took somebody out that size before, my freshman year against LSU, I think his name was Landon Collins, one of the big guards, big tackles. He did the same thing, and I knocked him over. We both fell out, if you really want to know. We both fell out on the ground, but I eliminated him out of the play.

I'm looking forward to the same thing. I know he's a big guy, and he's very (indiscernible), as well. He's a hard-nosed tackle, and he can make something happen.

So I think the key is what is King referring to when he says, "I'm looking forward to the same thing." When King says, "the same thing," if he was referring to the challenge of a big lineman pulling against him, that's not trash-talking. If he meant, "taking out Josh Garnett," then that's bulletin board material. But at least based on this interview transcript, it sure seems ambiguous, and if it's ambiguous, it's irresponsible of the Daily article to quote King as saying, "He did the same thing, and I knocked him over… I’m looking forward to the same thing [against Garnett].”

But no matter what, I absolutely loved Garnett's response. Btw, what I found most interesting about that article was this exchange:

Q. You said that the way they kind of operate their offense, those calls in the huddle, and they'll go up and check at the line of scrimmage. Have you seen any keys on film on what [Hogan] can do in certain situations?
DESMOND KING: I know I picked out one, but I'm not sure if that's an actual check. So I'm going to be looking for it in the game, and if it is, then I'll know exactly what's going on.

Q. Don't want to share it, I'm assuming?
DESMOND KING: No.

So that's interesting and a little ominous. I remember the announcers last year pointing out that Barry J was telegraphing certain plays (something like scanning the line only on run plays?), and this year, Harris & Meeks recognized that WSU were about to run a screen play which enabled Meeks to jump the route and intercept it. Sure hope King hasn't seen something.

[TreeFitty]

So I guess he didn't find a tell.

[TreeFitty]

So I guess he didn't find a tell.

[BostonCard]

You think Garnett was motivated?

https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/...0774965249

BC

[BostonCard]

You think Garnett was motivated?

https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/...0774965249

BC

[Hurlburt88]

I have to admit I kept an eye on King during the game.  On Hogan's TD Rector did a great job of walling him off, and then later WildCAFF made him look stupid in space.  The one impressive thing I remember was the near interception in the end zone when he was covering Cajuste. 

[Hurlburt88]

I have to admit I kept an eye on King during the game.  On Hogan's TD Rector did a great job of walling him off, and then later WildCAFF made him look stupid in space.  The one impressive thing I remember was the near interception in the end zone when he was covering Cajuste. 

[terry]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150049#msg150049 date=1451575349]


Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/
[/quote]

Do you suppose those Iowa guys still think Stanford is just another team?

And isn't Josey Jewell the guy who is still looking for the jock strap and cleats that McCaffrey faked him out of?

🙂

[terry]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150049#msg150049 date=1451575349]


Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/
[/quote]

Do you suppose those Iowa guys still think Stanford is just another team?

And isn't Josey Jewell the guy who is still looking for the jock strap and cleats that McCaffrey faked him out of?

🙂

[Nan3cy]

My husband's comment after he heard some of those pre-game comments this morning: "I wonder how those words taste."  :)

[Nan3cy]

My husband's comment after he heard some of those pre-game comments this morning: "I wonder how those words taste."  :)

[BostonCard]

They might have been less than wise pre-game, but they were pretty gracious about McCaffrey et al post-game.

https://twitter.com/TedMillerRK/status/6...3679325184

BC

[BostonCard]

They might have been less than wise pre-game, but they were pretty gracious about McCaffrey et al post-game.

https://twitter.com/TedMillerRK/status/6...3679325184

BC

[FarmBoy]

And their coach said they don't have anyone of his caliber, which I was surprised to see in post game comments. They certainly owned up to Stanford's superiority.

[FarmBoy]

And their coach said they don't have anyone of his caliber, which I was surprised to see in post game comments. They certainly owned up to Stanford's superiority.

[CompSci87]

And their coach said they don't have anyone of his caliber, which I was surprised to see in post game comments. They certainly owned up to Stanford's superiority.

I saw that quote in a few places. I think the context was about preparing for Stanford in practice: guys trying to simulate McCaffrey in practice couldn't prepare the defense for the real thing. Still a very gracious comment.

[CompSci87]

And their coach said they don't have anyone of his caliber, which I was surprised to see in post game comments. They certainly owned up to Stanford's superiority.

I saw that quote in a few places. I think the context was about preparing for Stanford in practice: guys trying to simulate McCaffrey in practice couldn't prepare the defense for the real thing. Still a very gracious comment.

[Rally]

[quote author=terry link=topic=14220.msg150051#msg150051 date=1451577411]
[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150049#msg150049 date=1451575349]


Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/
[/quote]

Do you suppose those Iowa guys still think Stanford is just another team?

And isn't Josey Jewell the guy who is still looking for the jock strap and cleats that McCaffrey faked him out of?

🙂
[/quote]

Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

[Rally]

[quote author=terry link=topic=14220.msg150051#msg150051 date=1451577411]
[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150049#msg150049 date=1451575349]


Well, one did, anyway.

More than one.

"everyone is very similar on the line,” said Iowa linebacker Cole Fisher. “Everyone has got big linemen, everyone has speed on the line.”

“They’re just another good offense,” added linebacker Josey Jewell.

“With their running game, once we shut that down, we can make them pass and we have a very good secondary,” Johnson said. “We can take care of that.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/12/29/...miliarity/
[/quote]

Do you suppose those Iowa guys still think Stanford is just another team?

And isn't Josey Jewell the guy who is still looking for the jock strap and cleats that McCaffrey faked him out of?

🙂
[/quote]

Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

[82 Card]

Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

McCaffrey lost his footing on the grass too. In one of his early runs, he went down making a cut right after he made a first down. Several other Stanford players seemed to have footing problems in the early going. The Rose Bowl switched grass type this year, from Bermuda/Rye mixture to Kentucky bluegrass. Maybe the switch was not a good idea.

[82 Card]

Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

McCaffrey lost his footing on the grass too. In one of his early runs, he went down making a cut right after he made a first down. Several other Stanford players seemed to have footing problems in the early going. The Rose Bowl switched grass type this year, from Bermuda/Rye mixture to Kentucky bluegrass. Maybe the switch was not a good idea.

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150543#msg150543 date=1451771413]
Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

McCaffrey lost his footing on the grass too. In one of his early runs, he went down making a cut right after he made a first down. Several other Stanford players seemed to have footing problems in the early going. The Rose Bowl switched grass type this year, from Bermuda/Rye mixture to Kentucky bluegrass. Maybe the switch was not a good idea.
[/quote]

The close up of McCaffrey after that slip showed a very angry man/boy.

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=14220.msg150543#msg150543 date=1451771413]
Someone said to. Me, during the first half, that the Iowa players must be slipping so much because they had on the wrong cleats.  It wasn't the cleats.  It was McCaffrey making them look like first time ice skaters.

McCaffrey lost his footing on the grass too. In one of his early runs, he went down making a cut right after he made a first down. Several other Stanford players seemed to have footing problems in the early going. The Rose Bowl switched grass type this year, from Bermuda/Rye mixture to Kentucky bluegrass. Maybe the switch was not a good idea.
[/quote]

The close up of McCaffrey after that slip showed a very angry man/boy.

[yvonne]

You think Garnett was motivated?

https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/...0774965249

BC

[yvonne]

You think Garnett was motivated?

https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/...0774965249

BC

[ChicagoCard]

Who is that on the receiving end of King's foul play? Remember he had a personal foul on a similar play on Cajuste, grabbing facemask and twisting. In scanning the Iowa Rivals forum, it came across that King had a well-deserved rep.

[ChicagoCard]

Who is that on the receiving end of King's foul play? Remember he had a personal foul on a similar play on Cajuste, grabbing facemask and twisting. In scanning the Iowa Rivals forum, it came across that King had a well-deserved rep.

[Hurlburt88]

#13 stallworth

[Hurlburt88]

#13 stallworth