09-04-2016, 06:12 PM
That'll show 'em!: Annals of discipline
09-04-2016, 06:51 PM
Ruffin already had to sit out the first half of the next game by NCAA rule. So the only SC punishment is a letter?
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
09-04-2016, 06:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-04-2016, 07:02 PM by TreesAndBirds.)
He loses a weeks worth of pay also/sarc
Seriously, that's a pathetic punishment.
Seriously, that's a pathetic punishment.
(This post was last modified: 09-04-2016, 07:02 PM by TreesAndBirds.)
He loses a weeks worth of pay also/sarc
Seriously, that's a pathetic punishment.
Seriously, that's a pathetic punishment.
09-04-2016, 07:00 PM
Well, if it's like Harry Potter writing "I must not tell lies" it may be a pretty painful punishment...
Well, if it's like Harry Potter writing "I must not tell lies" it may be a pretty painful punishment...
09-04-2016, 07:28 PM
I heard one commentator ponder whether criminal assault charges were appropriate given how obviously intentional it was.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
09-04-2016, 07:37 PM
(09-04-2016, 06:59 PM)TreesAndBirds link Wrote:He loses a weeks worth of pay also/sarc
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09-04-2016, 09:19 PM
What am I missing? Shouldn't this kid, even at USC, be suspended for at least several games?
09-04-2016, 09:36 PM
(09-04-2016, 09:19 PM)stanfan link Wrote:What am I missing? Shouldn't this kid, even at University of Shamed Coaches, be suspended for at least several games?
I'm thinking at least two.
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(09-04-2016, 09:19 PM)stanfan link Wrote:What am I missing? Shouldn't this kid, even at University of Shamed Coaches, be suspended for at least several games?
I'm thinking at least two.
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09-05-2016, 05:49 AM
So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory? That seems to show weakness on the part of their head coach. Maybe he's not even allowed to make such decisions, instead the call on this went to Lynn Swann.
So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory? That seems to show weakness on the part of their head coach. Maybe he's not even allowed to make such decisions, instead the call on this went to Lynn Swann.
09-05-2016, 06:47 AM
Well, this is the same school that didn't suspend the head coach when he showed up drunk and swearing at a booster event. The more USC (d)evolves, the more it stays the same.Â
I can't even begin to imagine college players to practice with their teammates when under investigation for sexual assault. I know we are innocent until proven guilty, but there is a difference between being under arrest or convicted, and being allowed to practice with you teammates. Even if they are innocent, it is clear that they involved themselves in stuff that had they not, wouldn't have them under investigation. So instead of sending a message that you better use your best judgment, or you won't be part of the team, USC - a program that NEEDS discipline - does as little as possible to achieve it. No wonder they fail so miserably.
I can't even begin to imagine college players to practice with their teammates when under investigation for sexual assault. I know we are innocent until proven guilty, but there is a difference between being under arrest or convicted, and being allowed to practice with you teammates. Even if they are innocent, it is clear that they involved themselves in stuff that had they not, wouldn't have them under investigation. So instead of sending a message that you better use your best judgment, or you won't be part of the team, USC - a program that NEEDS discipline - does as little as possible to achieve it. No wonder they fail so miserably.
Well, this is the same school that didn't suspend the head coach when he showed up drunk and swearing at a booster event. The more USC (d)evolves, the more it stays the same.Â
I can't even begin to imagine college players to practice with their teammates when under investigation for sexual assault. I know we are innocent until proven guilty, but there is a difference between being under arrest or convicted, and being allowed to practice with you teammates. Even if they are innocent, it is clear that they involved themselves in stuff that had they not, wouldn't have them under investigation. So instead of sending a message that you better use your best judgment, or you won't be part of the team, USC - a program that NEEDS discipline - does as little as possible to achieve it. No wonder they fail so miserably.
I can't even begin to imagine college players to practice with their teammates when under investigation for sexual assault. I know we are innocent until proven guilty, but there is a difference between being under arrest or convicted, and being allowed to practice with you teammates. Even if they are innocent, it is clear that they involved themselves in stuff that had they not, wouldn't have them under investigation. So instead of sending a message that you better use your best judgment, or you won't be part of the team, USC - a program that NEEDS discipline - does as little as possible to achieve it. No wonder they fail so miserably.
09-05-2016, 07:05 AM
Every time I think my revulsion of all things SC might wane, something like this happens. The culture of this kind of behavior is so deep that it outlasts every change of coach and every change of AD. Our football players in 1977 talked about how SC kicked, punched, and otherwise played "dirty," in a way that went far beyond any other team. I suppose it is a little harder to get away with as much of it today--with every game televised from numerous angles--unless you are a particular idiot. But forty years (or more?) of cheating and bad sportsmanship points to something deeply embedded in the SC cesspool.
Every time I think my revulsion of all things SC might wane, something like this happens. The culture of this kind of behavior is so deep that it outlasts every change of coach and every change of AD. Our football players in 1977 talked about how SC kicked, punched, and otherwise played "dirty," in a way that went far beyond any other team. I suppose it is a little harder to get away with as much of it today--with every game televised from numerous angles--unless you are a particular idiot. But forty years (or more?) of cheating and bad sportsmanship points to something deeply embedded in the SC cesspool.
09-05-2016, 08:17 AM
Re the 1/2-game penalty, it's no penalty at all if it was mandatory from the NCAA. Absurd. And it sends a clear message: USC's coaching staff doesn't care about instilling discipline or integrity.
Re the sexual assault investigations, I wonder how current students feel about this? Given the uproar on campuses about all things sexual assault these days, if students withheld their support from the team until more stringent actions were taken, I imagine that would get their attention. Then again, it's U$C students we're talking about, so taking a principled position is clearly out of the question.
Re the sexual assault investigations, I wonder how current students feel about this? Given the uproar on campuses about all things sexual assault these days, if students withheld their support from the team until more stringent actions were taken, I imagine that would get their attention. Then again, it's U$C students we're talking about, so taking a principled position is clearly out of the question.
Re the 1/2-game penalty, it's no penalty at all if it was mandatory from the NCAA. Absurd. And it sends a clear message: USC's coaching staff doesn't care about instilling discipline or integrity.
Re the sexual assault investigations, I wonder how current students feel about this? Given the uproar on campuses about all things sexual assault these days, if students withheld their support from the team until more stringent actions were taken, I imagine that would get their attention. Then again, it's U$C students we're talking about, so taking a principled position is clearly out of the question.
Re the sexual assault investigations, I wonder how current students feel about this? Given the uproar on campuses about all things sexual assault these days, if students withheld their support from the team until more stringent actions were taken, I imagine that would get their attention. Then again, it's U$C students we're talking about, so taking a principled position is clearly out of the question.
09-05-2016, 08:35 AM
"...forty years (or more?) of cheating and bad sportsmanship..."
Try, from Sports Illustrated, coming up on six decades: http://www.si.com/vault/1959/11/16/60109...-down-mike
Try, from Sports Illustrated, coming up on six decades: http://www.si.com/vault/1959/11/16/60109...-down-mike
"...forty years (or more?) of cheating and bad sportsmanship..."
Try, from Sports Illustrated, coming up on six decades: http://www.si.com/vault/1959/11/16/60109...-down-mike
Try, from Sports Illustrated, coming up on six decades: http://www.si.com/vault/1959/11/16/60109...-down-mike
09-05-2016, 08:43 AM
(09-05-2016, 05:49 AM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory?Hmm, I'm not sure. The 1/2 game suspension for the next game is mandatory if the penalty was assessed in the second half. As far as I recall, the crotch stomping occurred in the first half.
(09-05-2016, 05:49 AM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory?Hmm, I'm not sure. The 1/2 game suspension for the next game is mandatory if the penalty was assessed in the second half. As far as I recall, the crotch stomping occurred in the first half.
09-05-2016, 08:49 AM
(09-05-2016, 05:49 AM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory? That seems to show weakness on the part of their head coach. Maybe he's not even allowed to make such decisions, instead the call on this went to Lynn Swann.
If Lynn Swann okayed this "punishment", then he is now part of the problem. Looks like SOP for U$C athletic dept.
Pax et Bonum
(09-05-2016, 05:49 AM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:So the 1/2-game suspension was mandatory? That seems to show weakness on the part of their head coach. Maybe he's not even allowed to make such decisions, instead the call on this went to Lynn Swann.
If Lynn Swann okayed this "punishment", then he is now part of the problem. Looks like SOP for U$C athletic dept.
Pax et Bonum
09-05-2016, 11:09 AM
There is no way on earth Jabroni Roughin' should be allowed to play as much as a down in our game.
"We should all be better." --- Bill Walton, UCLA telecast, Feb. 16, 2013
There is no way on earth Jabroni Roughin' should be allowed to play as much as a down in our game.
"We should all be better." --- Bill Walton, UCLA telecast, Feb. 16, 2013
09-05-2016, 11:40 AM
Letting him play against us is a gift to the band. They are probably already rehearsing "stomping" songs. Or perhaps writing a skit suggesting that Helton run for Judge Persky's seat. There is a lot of material here.
Letting him play against us is a gift to the band. They are probably already rehearsing "stomping" songs. Or perhaps writing a skit suggesting that Helton run for Judge Persky's seat. There is a lot of material here.
09-05-2016, 12:40 PM
The LSU cheap shot guy got suspended for the much-anticipated Jacksonville State game next week. [sarcasm font on] Quite the blow to LSU going in to the game of the year... [sarcasm font off]
The LSU cheap shot guy got suspended for the much-anticipated Jacksonville State game next week. [sarcasm font on] Quite the blow to LSU going in to the game of the year... [sarcasm font off]
09-05-2016, 12:53 PM
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
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