08-24-2017, 07:58 AM
It's finally here! (I didn't see it on another thread yet; apologies if I missed it.)
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
Week 1 Depth Chart
It's finally here! (I didn't see it on another thread yet; apologies if I missed it.)
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
08-24-2017, 08:06 AM
(08-24-2017, 07:58 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:It's finally here! (I didn't see it on another thread yet; apologies if I missed it.)
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
JJAW isn't listed in the two deep at receiver. I assume he is injured. Anybody know anything about it?
(08-24-2017, 07:58 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:It's finally here! (I didn't see it on another thread yet; apologies if I missed it.)
http://www.gostanford.com/documents/2017..._depth.pdf
JJAW isn't listed in the two deep at receiver. I assume he is injured. Anybody know anything about it?
08-24-2017, 08:08 AM
Initial thoughts:
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
* The starting OL is, left to right, Bright-Herbig-Burkett-Fanaika-Hamilton
* Bryce Love is obviously the starter at RB, but it's still unclear who backs him up--it's listed as Scarlett OR Maddox OR Speights
* Four TEs on the depth chart. Schultz is first, and Parkinson is fourth, but it's a tie for the backup spot between Smith and Harrington.
* Some backup QB intrigue: there's an interesting little "or" between Burns and Costello.
* Starting DL is Cotton-Phillips-Jackson; starting LBs are Kalambayi, Okereke, Barton, and Toohill. Alfieri is backup up Okereke at ILB, and Fox is backup up Toohill at OLB.
* No Arcega-Whiteside at WR, and Tyler starts over Stewart. Wedington is backing up Irwin, so he should see the field on Saturday.Â
* No A.T. Hall (I understand he's not making the trip for as-yet-unknown reasons).
* Whither Mike Tyler?
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
* The starting OL is, left to right, Bright-Herbig-Burkett-Fanaika-Hamilton
* Bryce Love is obviously the starter at RB, but it's still unclear who backs him up--it's listed as Scarlett OR Maddox OR Speights
* Four TEs on the depth chart. Schultz is first, and Parkinson is fourth, but it's a tie for the backup spot between Smith and Harrington.
* Some backup QB intrigue: there's an interesting little "or" between Burns and Costello.
* Starting DL is Cotton-Phillips-Jackson; starting LBs are Kalambayi, Okereke, Barton, and Toohill. Alfieri is backup up Okereke at ILB, and Fox is backup up Toohill at OLB.
* No Arcega-Whiteside at WR, and Tyler starts over Stewart. Wedington is backing up Irwin, so he should see the field on Saturday.Â
* No A.T. Hall (I understand he's not making the trip for as-yet-unknown reasons).
* Whither Mike Tyler?
Initial thoughts:
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
* The starting OL is, left to right, Bright-Herbig-Burkett-Fanaika-Hamilton
* Bryce Love is obviously the starter at RB, but it's still unclear who backs him up--it's listed as Scarlett OR Maddox OR Speights
* Four TEs on the depth chart. Schultz is first, and Parkinson is fourth, but it's a tie for the backup spot between Smith and Harrington.
* Some backup QB intrigue: there's an interesting little "or" between Burns and Costello.
* Starting DL is Cotton-Phillips-Jackson; starting LBs are Kalambayi, Okereke, Barton, and Toohill. Alfieri is backup up Okereke at ILB, and Fox is backup up Toohill at OLB.
* No Arcega-Whiteside at WR, and Tyler starts over Stewart. Wedington is backing up Irwin, so he should see the field on Saturday.Â
* No A.T. Hall (I understand he's not making the trip for as-yet-unknown reasons).
* Whither Mike Tyler?
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
* The starting OL is, left to right, Bright-Herbig-Burkett-Fanaika-Hamilton
* Bryce Love is obviously the starter at RB, but it's still unclear who backs him up--it's listed as Scarlett OR Maddox OR Speights
* Four TEs on the depth chart. Schultz is first, and Parkinson is fourth, but it's a tie for the backup spot between Smith and Harrington.
* Some backup QB intrigue: there's an interesting little "or" between Burns and Costello.
* Starting DL is Cotton-Phillips-Jackson; starting LBs are Kalambayi, Okereke, Barton, and Toohill. Alfieri is backup up Okereke at ILB, and Fox is backup up Toohill at OLB.
* No Arcega-Whiteside at WR, and Tyler starts over Stewart. Wedington is backing up Irwin, so he should see the field on Saturday.Â
* No A.T. Hall (I understand he's not making the trip for as-yet-unknown reasons).
* Whither Mike Tyler?
08-24-2017, 08:09 AM
Mike Tyler also missing on depth chart. Not a great start to the year missing 3 likely starters in Hall, Tyler and Whiteside. I imagine Alfieri may be banged up as well given he is listed second on the depth chart.
08-24-2017, 08:28 AM
Who plays nickel? Alexander, Murphy, Edwards, Buncom?Given that the nickel back is often on the field for more downs than the third DL, I wish they would add nickel to the depth chart.
08-24-2017, 08:49 AM
Best players available play. I hope that they can settle on the inside backers this season and stay in the flow. Perez has disappeared from the chart.
Shaw was once quoted as saying that Jay Tyler was hard to tackle in a phone booth. Maybe we'll see it Saturday.
Shaw was once quoted as saying that Jay Tyler was hard to tackle in a phone booth. Maybe we'll see it Saturday.
08-24-2017, 09:40 AM
Last year, our nickel was almost always a safety. We deployed him (usually Hoff) up near the line of scrimmage and matched against the slot receiver.Â
Assuming the coaches sticks with this big nickel concept, Edwards seems the best bet as our fifth defensive back. He's the nearest thing to Hoff and played that role when Hoff was out last year. Buncom, now a safety, seems the next man up/next best choice.Â
Assuming the coaches sticks with this big nickel concept, Edwards seems the best bet as our fifth defensive back. He's the nearest thing to Hoff and played that role when Hoff was out last year. Buncom, now a safety, seems the next man up/next best choice.Â
Last year, our nickel was almost always a safety. We deployed him (usually Hoff) up near the line of scrimmage and matched against the slot receiver.Â
Assuming the coaches sticks with this big nickel concept, Edwards seems the best bet as our fifth defensive back. He's the nearest thing to Hoff and played that role when Hoff was out last year. Buncom, now a safety, seems the next man up/next best choice.Â
Assuming the coaches sticks with this big nickel concept, Edwards seems the best bet as our fifth defensive back. He's the nearest thing to Hoff and played that role when Hoff was out last year. Buncom, now a safety, seems the next man up/next best choice.Â
08-24-2017, 09:42 AM
Surprised to see Barton starting at ILB but good for him. Expected to see Alfieri there.
Surprised to see Barton starting at ILB but good for him. Expected to see Alfieri there.
08-24-2017, 09:51 AM
Also somewhat interesting: Sarell is at left tackle and Little is at right.
Curious to see if Alfieri plays much, i.e., whether he is injured.
Curious to see if Alfieri plays much, i.e., whether he is injured.
Also somewhat interesting: Sarell is at left tackle and Little is at right.
Curious to see if Alfieri plays much, i.e., whether he is injured.
Curious to see if Alfieri plays much, i.e., whether he is injured.
08-24-2017, 10:16 AM
Nice to see so many True Frosh in the 2-deep on offense.
If JJAW has to be out, it would be terrific if Wedington gets some reps that make him better than he would have been had JJAW not been held out. Of course, JJAW could still possibly play even if he isn't on the depth chart if his injury is minor.
Speaking of Wedington, man am I glad he's being used at WR and not redshirting at RB.Â
Don't think Stanford loses much with Toohill over Tyler, and this probably means more reps for Robinson all things considered.
Man, what a deep and experienced secondary!
If JJAW has to be out, it would be terrific if Wedington gets some reps that make him better than he would have been had JJAW not been held out. Of course, JJAW could still possibly play even if he isn't on the depth chart if his injury is minor.
Speaking of Wedington, man am I glad he's being used at WR and not redshirting at RB.Â
Don't think Stanford loses much with Toohill over Tyler, and this probably means more reps for Robinson all things considered.
Man, what a deep and experienced secondary!
Nice to see so many True Frosh in the 2-deep on offense.
If JJAW has to be out, it would be terrific if Wedington gets some reps that make him better than he would have been had JJAW not been held out. Of course, JJAW could still possibly play even if he isn't on the depth chart if his injury is minor.
Speaking of Wedington, man am I glad he's being used at WR and not redshirting at RB.Â
Don't think Stanford loses much with Toohill over Tyler, and this probably means more reps for Robinson all things considered.
Man, what a deep and experienced secondary!
If JJAW has to be out, it would be terrific if Wedington gets some reps that make him better than he would have been had JJAW not been held out. Of course, JJAW could still possibly play even if he isn't on the depth chart if his injury is minor.
Speaking of Wedington, man am I glad he's being used at WR and not redshirting at RB.Â
Don't think Stanford loses much with Toohill over Tyler, and this probably means more reps for Robinson all things considered.
Man, what a deep and experienced secondary!
08-24-2017, 10:51 AM
Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Please clear the field! The game is not over!
Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Please clear the field! The game is not over!
08-24-2017, 11:00 AM
(08-24-2017, 10:51 AM)Hank 91 link Wrote:Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Do you think that indicates a change of heart by the coaching staff that will remain in place for the entire season, a desire to limit the possibility of injury in a game where we shouldn't need his explosiveness at KR (but he'll return there against SC), or something else? I wouldn't think we'd be playing games with the depth chart against Rice, so I don't expect to see him returning anything in Sydney.Â
(08-24-2017, 10:51 AM)Hank 91 link Wrote:Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Do you think that indicates a change of heart by the coaching staff that will remain in place for the entire season, a desire to limit the possibility of injury in a game where we shouldn't need his explosiveness at KR (but he'll return there against SC), or something else? I wouldn't think we'd be playing games with the depth chart against Rice, so I don't expect to see him returning anything in Sydney.Â
08-24-2017, 11:26 AM
I echo sentiments of satisfaction at seeing the talented frosh on the 2-deep. The good frosh may not stay four years...
08-24-2017, 11:42 AM
(08-24-2017, 08:08 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:Initial thoughts:Actually, if they are the backups, we almost for sure will see them against Rice. I am very pleased with this eventuality, because it indicates that at least most of the "hype" surrounding these two players was justified. The coaching staff (at least for now) thinks they are already College-level players. That is a very good sign!
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
(08-24-2017, 08:08 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:Initial thoughts:Actually, if they are the backups, we almost for sure will see them against Rice. I am very pleased with this eventuality, because it indicates that at least most of the "hype" surrounding these two players was justified. The coaching staff (at least for now) thinks they are already College-level players. That is a very good sign!
* Sarell is listed as the backup at LT, and Little is listed as the backup at RT, so it seems safe to assume that they'll find their way onto the field at some point this season.
08-24-2017, 11:51 AM
The other thing about Little and Sarell both being #2 on the depth chart is that it certainly leaves open the possibility that Stanford could have two True Frosh starting OTs at some point this season. The heat is on Bright, Hamilton and Hall to stay healthy and stave them off.
The other thing about Little and Sarell both being #2 on the depth chart is that it certainly leaves open the possibility that Stanford could have two True Frosh starting OTs at some point this season. The heat is on Bright, Hamilton and Hall to stay healthy and stave them off.
08-24-2017, 12:07 PM
(08-24-2017, 11:00 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=17218.msg197715#msg197715 date=1503597083]
Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Do you think that indicates a change of heart by the coaching staff that will remain in place for the entire season, a desire to limit the possibility of injury in a game where we shouldn't need his explosiveness at KR (but he'll return there against SC), or something else? I wouldn't think we'd be playing games with the depth chart against Rice, so I don't expect to see him returning anything in Sydney.
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I expect this is just caution. I also expect Love will not return kickoffs all the time. They will put him back there when they think the ends justifies the risk. How that decision is made, I don't know for sure, but that is what I expect to happen. If one of the other options emerges as really good, that may change.
(08-24-2017, 11:00 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=17218.msg197715#msg197715 date=1503597083]
Also note that Bryce Love isn't listed on either kick return team. When I spoke to him at Media Day, he said, "I know I'm returning kickoffs, and I hope to return punts." I think this is a good thing, assuming we can still get decent production there.
Do you think that indicates a change of heart by the coaching staff that will remain in place for the entire season, a desire to limit the possibility of injury in a game where we shouldn't need his explosiveness at KR (but he'll return there against SC), or something else? I wouldn't think we'd be playing games with the depth chart against Rice, so I don't expect to see him returning anything in Sydney.
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I expect this is just caution. I also expect Love will not return kickoffs all the time. They will put him back there when they think the ends justifies the risk. How that decision is made, I don't know for sure, but that is what I expect to happen. If one of the other options emerges as really good, that may change.
08-24-2017, 12:20 PM
One other observation - this is a young team (though not inexperienced). Among the players listed as starters for week 1, only 4 are in their final year of eligibility (Bright, Marx, Cotton, Kalambayi).Â
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
One other observation - this is a young team (though not inexperienced). Among the players listed as starters for week 1, only 4 are in their final year of eligibility (Bright, Marx, Cotton, Kalambayi).Â
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
08-24-2017, 12:29 PM
(08-24-2017, 12:20 PM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:One other observation - this is a young team (though not inexperienced). Among the players listed as starters for week 1, only 4 are in their final year of eligibility (Bright, Marx, Cotton, Kalambayi).
That really is remarkable, especially when combined with only losing three starters from last year to graduation (Lloyd, Caspers, Rector).
[There were two other guys who were starters at least part time - Owusu and Hoffpaiur.]
This is the reason that some of the more detailed analysts out there have been suggesting 2018 might be Stanford's year (e.g. Bill Connelly).Â
(08-24-2017, 12:20 PM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:One other observation - this is a young team (though not inexperienced). Among the players listed as starters for week 1, only 4 are in their final year of eligibility (Bright, Marx, Cotton, Kalambayi).
That really is remarkable, especially when combined with only losing three starters from last year to graduation (Lloyd, Caspers, Rector).
[There were two other guys who were starters at least part time - Owusu and Hoffpaiur.]
This is the reason that some of the more detailed analysts out there have been suggesting 2018 might be Stanford's year (e.g. Bill Connelly).Â
08-24-2017, 12:51 PM
I was at a practice last week and JJAW was in a knee brace but working out off to the side with a trainer. Hopefully he'll be back soon.
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