[SamuelMcF]

Paywall, but I can say that his decision to declare was out of (perceived) necessity. By the time he found out there was no necessity, it was too late.

What would the perceived necessity have been?  He had a year of eligibility left.  Did he have no faith that he could tack on an injury-free, solid senior season?

Think the other part of student-athlete.

So if I read this comment correctly, Herbig was struggling academically.... ?

If this is true, I find it rather odd: Herbig was Pac-12 All-Academic honorable mention both as a sophomore in 2017 and as a junior in 2018, which was announced in December of 2018. Are all-academic honors for football so low that someone who's have trouble staying eligible can also get honorable mention?!

If you only receive 9 units of credit or fewer in a quarter, even if all A's, you still go on academic probation. It's very possible to fail just 1 class, ace the rest, and still be in trouble from a maintaining-your-scholarship standpoint.

Not saying that's what happened, because I actually don't know in detail, but it's possible. 

(Also, the all-academic team came out before Stanford's fall quarter exams, so that probably wasn't factored in.)

[SamuelMcF]

Paywall, but I can say that his decision to declare was out of (perceived) necessity. By the time he found out there was no necessity, it was too late.

What would the perceived necessity have been?  He had a year of eligibility left.  Did he have no faith that he could tack on an injury-free, solid senior season?

Think the other part of student-athlete.

So if I read this comment correctly, Herbig was struggling academically.... ?

If this is true, I find it rather odd: Herbig was Pac-12 All-Academic honorable mention both as a sophomore in 2017 and as a junior in 2018, which was announced in December of 2018. Are all-academic honors for football so low that someone who's have trouble staying eligible can also get honorable mention?!

If you only receive 9 units of credit or fewer in a quarter, even if all A's, you still go on academic probation. It's very possible to fail just 1 class, ace the rest, and still be in trouble from a maintaining-your-scholarship standpoint.

Not saying that's what happened, because I actually don't know in detail, but it's possible. 

(Also, the all-academic team came out before Stanford's fall quarter exams, so that probably wasn't factored in.)

[PVTree]

What would the perceived necessity have been?  He had a year of eligibility left.  Did he have no faith that he could tack on an injury-free, solid senior season?

Think the other part of student-athlete.

So if I read this comment correctly, Herbig was struggling academically.... ?

If this is true, I find it rather odd: Herbig was Pac-12 All-Academic honorable mention both as a sophomore in 2017 and as a junior in 2018, which was announced in December of 2018. Are all-academic honors for football so low that someone who's have trouble staying eligible can also get honorable mention?!

If you only receive 9 units of credit or fewer in a quarter, even if all A's, you still go on academic probation. It's very possible to fail just 1 class, ace the rest, and still be in trouble from a maintaining-your-scholarship standpoint.

Not saying that's what happened, because I actually don't know in detail, but it's possible. 

(Also, the all-academic team came out before Stanford's fall quarter exams, so that probably wasn't factored in.)

From my time at Stanford, it was LESS than 9 units to go on probation. Through some circumstances I have now forgotten, I ended up taking 9 units one certain quarter. I did not go on probation as I do remember looking at the requirements back then. I may have taken ballroom dancing if I needed another unit to avoid probation.

The other part was that students needed to pass 36 units in an academic year or go on probation also.

[PVTree]

What would the perceived necessity have been?  He had a year of eligibility left.  Did he have no faith that he could tack on an injury-free, solid senior season?

Think the other part of student-athlete.

So if I read this comment correctly, Herbig was struggling academically.... ?

If this is true, I find it rather odd: Herbig was Pac-12 All-Academic honorable mention both as a sophomore in 2017 and as a junior in 2018, which was announced in December of 2018. Are all-academic honors for football so low that someone who's have trouble staying eligible can also get honorable mention?!

If you only receive 9 units of credit or fewer in a quarter, even if all A's, you still go on academic probation. It's very possible to fail just 1 class, ace the rest, and still be in trouble from a maintaining-your-scholarship standpoint.

Not saying that's what happened, because I actually don't know in detail, but it's possible. 

(Also, the all-academic team came out before Stanford's fall quarter exams, so that probably wasn't factored in.)

From my time at Stanford, it was LESS than 9 units to go on probation. Through some circumstances I have now forgotten, I ended up taking 9 units one certain quarter. I did not go on probation as I do remember looking at the requirements back then. I may have taken ballroom dancing if I needed another unit to avoid probation.

The other part was that students needed to pass 36 units in an academic year or go on probation also.

[82lsju]

on early entrants

In 2018, 37 of 106 early entrants went undrafted in the NFL. This year, 49 of 144 went undrafted.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-snub-...46578.html

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From my time at Stanford, it was LESS than 9 units to go on probation. Through some circumstances I have now forgotten, I ended up taking 9 units one certain quarter. I did not go on probation as I do remember looking at the requirements back then. I may have taken ballroom dancing if I needed another unit to avoid probation.

The other part was that students needed to pass 36 units in an academic year or go on probation also.

the current rules appear to line up with your recollection

What does probation mean?


Probation is intended as a warning. If you

• do not complete at least 9 units in any given quarter (incomplete courses are often a problem); and/or
  
• do not complete at least 36 units in your most recent three quarters of enrollment (again, incomplete courses are often a problem); and/or
  
• do not maintain a cumulative GPA of at least 2.0.
  

....

You will remain on probation for your next three consecutive quarters of enrollment. If you are away from Stanford on an official leave of absence or another reason for any one of those quarters, your three consecutive quarters of probation will begin again upon your return to Stanford.

In each quarter that you are on probation, you are required to:

• successfully complete at least 12 units of new course work (incomplete courses are not considered successfully completed) by the end of the examination period; and
  
  
• successfully complete at least 36 units of new course work in your most recent three quarters of enrollment; and
  
  
• maintain a minimum cumulative GPA of at least 2.0.
  

https://registrar.stanford.edu/students/...-probation

[82lsju]

on early entrants

In 2018, 37 of 106 early entrants went undrafted in the NFL. This year, 49 of 144 went undrafted.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-snub-...46578.html

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From my time at Stanford, it was LESS than 9 units to go on probation. Through some circumstances I have now forgotten, I ended up taking 9 units one certain quarter. I did not go on probation as I do remember looking at the requirements back then. I may have taken ballroom dancing if I needed another unit to avoid probation.

The other part was that students needed to pass 36 units in an academic year or go on probation also.

the current rules appear to line up with your recollection

What does probation mean?


Probation is intended as a warning. If you

• do not complete at least 9 units in any given quarter (incomplete courses are often a problem); and/or
  
• do not complete at least 36 units in your most recent three quarters of enrollment (again, incomplete courses are often a problem); and/or
  
• do not maintain a cumulative GPA of at least 2.0.
  

....

You will remain on probation for your next three consecutive quarters of enrollment. If you are away from Stanford on an official leave of absence or another reason for any one of those quarters, your three consecutive quarters of probation will begin again upon your return to Stanford.

In each quarter that you are on probation, you are required to:

• successfully complete at least 12 units of new course work (incomplete courses are not considered successfully completed) by the end of the examination period; and
  
  
• successfully complete at least 36 units of new course work in your most recent three quarters of enrollment; and
  
  
• maintain a minimum cumulative GPA of at least 2.0.
  

https://registrar.stanford.edu/students/...-probation

[fullmetal]

I am fairly convinced this season's OL injury woes are less of a Carberry issue and more of a "no trainer means no rehabbing or proactive measures against injury" issue.

[fullmetal]

I am fairly convinced this season's OL injury woes are less of a Carberry issue and more of a "no trainer means no rehabbing or proactive measures against injury" issue.

[BobK]

We had 4 trainers. And probably more not sure why you thought no trainer

Maybe you are confused because the head trainer was interim?

[BobK]

We had 4 trainers. And probably more not sure why you thought no trainer

Maybe you are confused because the head trainer was interim?