[lex24]

Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.

Who are the 5 ahead of him?

I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.

[lex24]

Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.

Who are the 5 ahead of him?

I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.

[Phogge]

Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.

Who are the 5 ahead of him?

I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.

Koufax, Spahn, Marichal, Newhouser and Kershaw. But there were guys who straddled the era like Walter Johnson so I guess you mean guys who broke in after 1920. However if I HAD to win a game and do it with guys I saw pitch I would take Allie Reynolds.

BTW, I singled off Andy in another at bat but lost 6-5 in ten innings.

[Phogge]

Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.

Who are the 5 ahead of him?

I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.

Koufax, Spahn, Marichal, Newhouser and Kershaw. But there were guys who straddled the era like Walter Johnson so I guess you mean guys who broke in after 1920. However if I HAD to win a game and do it with guys I saw pitch I would take Allie Reynolds.

BTW, I singled off Andy in another at bat but lost 6-5 in ten innings.

[BobK]

Koufax
Gibson
Kershaw
Ford
Clemons

Must win game? Ford or Gibson

[BobK]

Koufax
Gibson
Kershaw
Ford
Clemons

Must win game? Ford or Gibson

[lex24]

Kershaw Koufax and Ford are correct. 2 more. Both surprised me. One pitched forever. The other was part os a famous AL starting staff

[lex24]

Kershaw Koufax and Ford are correct. 2 more. Both surprised me. One pitched forever. The other was part os a famous AL starting staff

[Phogge]

Palmer?

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The guy who pitched forever could be Wilhelm but he was a reliever for most of his career. Fascinating new book, “History of baseball in ten pitches” has a good section on Hoyt and the knuckler.

[Phogge]

Palmer?

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The guy who pitched forever could be Wilhelm but he was a reliever for most of his career. Fascinating new book, “History of baseball in ten pitches” has a good section on Hoyt and the knuckler.

[BobK]

Palmer or the Stanford connection McNally.

Yes I’ll go with Hoyt.

[BobK]

Palmer or the Stanford connection McNally.

Yes I’ll go with Hoyt.

[lex24]

Wilhelm and Palmer it is. And I agree Phogge, primarily a reliever. I blame Wikipedia.

[lex24]

Wilhelm and Palmer it is. And I agree Phogge, primarily a reliever. I blame Wikipedia.

[BobK]

Hoyt started just 52 games. I guess far more late in his career

Hoyt holds two major league records what are they ?

[BobK]

Hoyt started just 52 games. I guess far more late in his career

Hoyt holds two major league records what are they ?

[Phogge]

Most games for a pitcher? Homered in first at bat and never again?

[Phogge]

Most games for a pitcher? Homered in first at bat and never again?

[BobK]

Hoyt homered in his first at bat then the most ABs never homered again. About 430 ABs

Hoyt won more games in relief than any other pitcher in history and still holds record

[BobK]

Hoyt homered in his first at bat then the most ABs never homered again. About 430 ABs

Hoyt won more games in relief than any other pitcher in history and still holds record