Always saddened to read this happening at Stanford:
https://sports.yahoo.com/student-found-d...ories.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/student-found-d...ories.html
(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
Quote:The Santa Clara County coroner’s office identified the man as Eitan Weiner, a resident of Stanford.
(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
Quote:The Santa Clara County coroner’s office identified the man as Eitan Weiner, a resident of Stanford.
(01-20-2020, 01:13 PM)82lsju Wrote:(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
Quote:The Santa Clara County coroner’s office identified the man as Eitan Weiner, a resident of Stanford.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/arti...989827.php
(01-20-2020, 01:13 PM)82lsju Wrote:(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
Quote:The Santa Clara County coroner’s office identified the man as Eitan Weiner, a resident of Stanford.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/arti...989827.php
(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
(01-20-2020, 01:44 PM)ColoradoTree Wrote:(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
At first, I figured that while they likely notified the family ASAP, the family is probably still struggling to process the events and haven't yet granted Stanford permission to share more information. Sort of institutional-speak for "we're working on it and we'll share more when we can." But I, too, found the tone of the statements interesting.
The statements were reminiscent of this story late last year: https://padailypost.com/2019/06/16/stanf...disclosed/. (For comparison, here's the same outlet's story on the most recent tragedy: https://padailypost.com/2020/01/17/stanf...disclosed/)
Given that it was at a fraternity, I'm sure many of your minds jumped to the same conclusion mine did--that alcohol may have been involved. Thus, the absence of any mention of alcohol from the stories I've read struck me, but this could just be standard University protocol when releasing information when there is a student death.
Whatever happened, it's devastatingly sad for the entire community, and I hope everyone who needs help takes advantage of the extra help the University is providing to help students navigate the situation.
(01-20-2020, 01:44 PM)ColoradoTree Wrote:(01-20-2020, 12:05 AM)CornFed Wrote: Perhaps this is nothing, but I found the wording of the statement by the Stanford spokesperson to be a little odd
"While we are working to understand the family’s wishes, we are not in a position to share the student’s name"
Was a translator not immediately available? Or were their wishes just difficult to comprehend?
At first, I figured that while they likely notified the family ASAP, the family is probably still struggling to process the events and haven't yet granted Stanford permission to share more information. Sort of institutional-speak for "we're working on it and we'll share more when we can." But I, too, found the tone of the statements interesting.
The statements were reminiscent of this story late last year: https://padailypost.com/2019/06/16/stanf...disclosed/. (For comparison, here's the same outlet's story on the most recent tragedy: https://padailypost.com/2020/01/17/stanf...disclosed/)
Given that it was at a fraternity, I'm sure many of your minds jumped to the same conclusion mine did--that alcohol may have been involved. Thus, the absence of any mention of alcohol from the stories I've read struck me, but this could just be standard University protocol when releasing information when there is a student death.
Whatever happened, it's devastatingly sad for the entire community, and I hope everyone who needs help takes advantage of the extra help the University is providing to help students navigate the situation.
(01-21-2020, 06:27 AM)martyup Wrote: That statement seems to rule out suicide.
(01-21-2020, 06:27 AM)martyup Wrote: That statement seems to rule out suicide.
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote:(01-21-2020, 06:27 AM)martyup Wrote: That statement seems to rule out suicide.
Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote:(01-21-2020, 06:27 AM)martyup Wrote: That statement seems to rule out suicide.
Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought?
(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought?
(01-21-2020, 11:24 AM)terry Wrote:(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
I thought it was a nice way to honor Eitan's life. If this had been my child, I would have appreciated the words of sympathy and care in this statement. I hope this brought some comfort to family and friends.
(01-21-2020, 11:24 AM)terry Wrote:(01-21-2020, 10:16 AM)needle Wrote: Am I the only one who found the update a bit overwrought? Sure, include a statement or two from someone who knew the kid, but language like this:
[*]Inspiring yet humble, he was incredibly well read and deeply interested in history, politics and current events.
[*]I have heard that when Eitan was with you, he was fully present and focused.
And I just roll my eyes at a campus administrator trying really, really hard.
Sometimes I think Stanford really was better back in my day.
I thought it was a nice way to honor Eitan's life. If this had been my child, I would have appreciated the words of sympathy and care in this statement. I hope this brought some comfort to family and friends.
Quote: It seems there was a conscious effort to make this more of a memorial than simply a statement of the facts, and I appreciated it.
Quote: It seems there was a conscious effort to make this more of a memorial than simply a statement of the facts, and I appreciated it.