[teejers1]

Hawaii withdrew from the Hawaii bowl, and the bowl was subsequently cancelled. 

BC

To borrow from you re: cases spiking with Omicron:  water is wet; sun rises in the east.

Don't really care about "spike" in cases - let's talk hospitalizations which was always (or should have been, anyway) the driving policy consideration.  Finally, some folks in MSM are coming around to this position.  All it took was 1.5 years (and a new administration).  As noted elsewhere on this board, we are about to treat this as endemic.  So we all should get used to it and act (not overreact) accordingly.

[teejers1]

Hawaii withdrew from the Hawaii bowl, and the bowl was subsequently cancelled. 

BC

To borrow from you re: cases spiking with Omicron:  water is wet; sun rises in the east.

Don't really care about "spike" in cases - let's talk hospitalizations which was always (or should have been, anyway) the driving policy consideration.  Finally, some folks in MSM are coming around to this position.  All it took was 1.5 years (and a new administration).  As noted elsewhere on this board, we are about to treat this as endemic.  So we all should get used to it and act (not overreact) accordingly.

[dabigv13]

Well yes, after almost two years, enough people have been vaccinated or had the virus that cases will generate less and less hospitalizations and deaths. We can treat it as an endemic virus when it's acting like one. Treating it as an endemic virus a year ago would have been really dumb.

[dabigv13]

Well yes, after almost two years, enough people have been vaccinated or had the virus that cases will generate less and less hospitalizations and deaths. We can treat it as an endemic virus when it's acting like one. Treating it as an endemic virus a year ago would have been really dumb.

[chrisk]

Hawaii withdrew from the Hawaii bowl, and the bowl was subsequently cancelled. 

BC

Memphis and its traveling fans were already in Hawaii. I assume ESPN will still pay the Memphis team for its travel expenses. The fans will probably have to be satisfied with a vacation sans bowl game.

[chrisk]

Hawaii withdrew from the Hawaii bowl, and the bowl was subsequently cancelled. 

BC

Memphis and its traveling fans were already in Hawaii. I assume ESPN will still pay the Memphis team for its travel expenses. The fans will probably have to be satisfied with a vacation sans bowl game.

[Phogge]

Let them play an all star team from Punahou and St. Louis.

[Phogge]

Let them play an all star team from Punahou and St. Louis.

[M T]

"Testing" is an ill-defined term.  Depending on the kind of test, you more likely want (per CDC guidance) every NEGATIVE test confirmed.
I've put more details on a particular rapid antigen test at the COVIDboard site (no relation to CARDboard).  Please discuss details there, not here.

Are you willing to trust your players' health to the other school's "protocol"?  Then there are also the protocols of the hosting site.  I believe that the protocols of the site always will apply.  The NCAA or SEC or Univ. of Alabama don't get to tell XYZ County what their health regulations must be.

As I recall, the 2021 basketball tournaments had well defined set of protocols set up by the NCAA & the local governments.  It is hard to believe, but they had more time to set that up than the current situation with a fast-spreading infection.

So hold the schools accountable for their own protocols:
1. Testing within 24 hrs of kickoff/tip-off. Make sure every positive test is confirmed.
2. Positive test = you’re immediately quarantined from rest of team.
...
I’m not sure how this differs from the present situation. NCAA seems to have little teeth in enforcement.

[M T]

"Testing" is an ill-defined term.  Depending on the kind of test, you more likely want (per CDC guidance) every NEGATIVE test confirmed.
I've put more details on a particular rapid antigen test at the COVIDboard site (no relation to CARDboard).  Please discuss details there, not here.

Are you willing to trust your players' health to the other school's "protocol"?  Then there are also the protocols of the hosting site.  I believe that the protocols of the site always will apply.  The NCAA or SEC or Univ. of Alabama don't get to tell XYZ County what their health regulations must be.

As I recall, the 2021 basketball tournaments had well defined set of protocols set up by the NCAA & the local governments.  It is hard to believe, but they had more time to set that up than the current situation with a fast-spreading infection.

So hold the schools accountable for their own protocols:
1. Testing within 24 hrs of kickoff/tip-off. Make sure every positive test is confirmed.
2. Positive test = you’re immediately quarantined from rest of team.
...
I’m not sure how this differs from the present situation. NCAA seems to have little teeth in enforcement.

[French Rage]

Well yes, after almost two years, enough people have been vaccinated or had the virus that cases will generate less and less hospitalizations and deaths. We can treat it as an endemic virus when it's acting like one. Treating it as an endemic virus a year ago would have been really dumb.

+1 since it looks like the button for it was removed.

[French Rage]

Well yes, after almost two years, enough people have been vaccinated or had the virus that cases will generate less and less hospitalizations and deaths. We can treat it as an endemic virus when it's acting like one. Treating it as an endemic virus a year ago would have been really dumb.

+1 since it looks like the button for it was removed.

[BostonCard]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

[BostonCard]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

[Farm93]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

So far it has been a bunch of who cares type bowl games, but we are now closing in on the bigger bowls.

There is Utah, so excited to be playing in the Rose Bowl, but what if that doesn't happen.   That would be so disappointing. 

And in these bigger bowl games the alums actually travel.   Could you imagine spending thousands on airfare, hotels, rental cars, vacation time from work, and more just to discover the game is cancelled?  One might get the bowl ticket cost refunded (maybe??) but the rest of the costs will remain.

[Farm93]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

So far it has been a bunch of who cares type bowl games, but we are now closing in on the bigger bowls.

There is Utah, so excited to be playing in the Rose Bowl, but what if that doesn't happen.   That would be so disappointing. 

And in these bigger bowl games the alums actually travel.   Could you imagine spending thousands on airfare, hotels, rental cars, vacation time from work, and more just to discover the game is cancelled?  One might get the bowl ticket cost refunded (maybe??) but the rest of the costs will remain.

[Phogge]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

[Phogge]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

[cardcrimson]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

Hard to disagree with that. . . .

[cardcrimson]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

Hard to disagree with that. . . .

[Maple Leaf]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

Not only espn takes a hit, but I bet the NIL cash flow takes a bit of a hit.  With all the cancellations could this possibly influence a recruit to choose a school based upon academics over $$$ and chicks?  Nah, probably not, oh well.

[Maple Leaf]

The upside of any cancellation is that ESPN takes a hit.

Not only espn takes a hit, but I bet the NIL cash flow takes a bit of a hit.  With all the cancellations could this possibly influence a recruit to choose a school based upon academics over $$$ and chicks?  Nah, probably not, oh well.

[BostonCard]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

So far it has been a bunch of who cares type bowl games, but we are now closing in on the bigger bowls.

There is Utah, so excited to be playing in the Rose Bowl, but what if that doesn't happen.   That would be so disappointing. 

And in these bigger bowl games the alums actually travel.   Could you imagine spending thousands on airfare, hotels, rental cars, vacation time from work, and more just to discover the game is cancelled?  One might get the bowl ticket cost refunded (maybe??) but the rest of the costs will remain.

I dunno, I have a hotel in Tahoe that I can’t get to because of an epic storm.  Stuff, as they say, happens, and I don’t have it as bad as people who are stuck there and can’t come home.  Hopefully 80 will reopen tomorrow.

BC

BC

[BostonCard]

Some odds and ends from COVID-land.

Alabama’s OC Bill O’Brien tested positive and has mild symptoms, and is isolating, though he is expected to rejoin the team by the national semifinal game.

WSU is opponent-less for the Sun Bowl after Miami had to withdraw due to COVID.  They are willing to play anyone.

The military bowl scheduled for Tuesday between Boston College and East Carolina (anyone remember the band’s show about East Carolina after we played them in the 1995 liberty bowl?) was cancelled after a COVID outbreak in BC.

The Fenway bowl schedule for Dec. 29 between Virginia and SMU was cancelled after a COVID outbreak at UVA.

BC

So far it has been a bunch of who cares type bowl games, but we are now closing in on the bigger bowls.

There is Utah, so excited to be playing in the Rose Bowl, but what if that doesn't happen.   That would be so disappointing. 

And in these bigger bowl games the alums actually travel.   Could you imagine spending thousands on airfare, hotels, rental cars, vacation time from work, and more just to discover the game is cancelled?  One might get the bowl ticket cost refunded (maybe??) but the rest of the costs will remain.

I dunno, I have a hotel in Tahoe that I can’t get to because of an epic storm.  Stuff, as they say, happens, and I don’t have it as bad as people who are stuck there and can’t come home.  Hopefully 80 will reopen tomorrow.

BC

BC

[Spiny_Norman]

Holiday Bowl cancelled. UCLA with Covid. I was really looking forward to watching that game. Does the conference miss a payday as a result?

[Spiny_Norman]

Holiday Bowl cancelled. UCLA with Covid. I was really looking forward to watching that game. Does the conference miss a payday as a result?

[Farm93]

Holiday Bowl cancelled. UCLA with Covid. I was really looking forward to watching that game. Does the conference miss a payday as a result?

With the exception of the NY6/CFP games most of the Pac-12 bowl games don't really end up distributing a lot of money to the rest of the conference members.  The BigTen and SEC normally have 3 or 4 teams in bowls that create meaningful allocations to its members, but for most of the last decade the only bowl in that category for the Pac-12 has been the Rose Bowl.

The Holiday Bowl was set to payout $6.5M.   Given they will have all of the expenses and very little of the revenue they likely will not give anything to the teams.   However, even if they did issue their full payout each Pac-12 school would likely get something in the $250-$300K range after the participating bowl team's expenses.   So the lost money is likely not a big deal to the conference or its members.

[Farm93]

Holiday Bowl cancelled. UCLA with Covid. I was really looking forward to watching that game. Does the conference miss a payday as a result?

With the exception of the NY6/CFP games most of the Pac-12 bowl games don't really end up distributing a lot of money to the rest of the conference members.  The BigTen and SEC normally have 3 or 4 teams in bowls that create meaningful allocations to its members, but for most of the last decade the only bowl in that category for the Pac-12 has been the Rose Bowl.

The Holiday Bowl was set to payout $6.5M.   Given they will have all of the expenses and very little of the revenue they likely will not give anything to the teams.   However, even if they did issue their full payout each Pac-12 school would likely get something in the $250-$300K range after the participating bowl team's expenses.   So the lost money is likely not a big deal to the conference or its members.