10-12-2022, 01:17 PM
Remember the SEC motto: “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”
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Outside Topic Rampant cheating
Remember the SEC motto: “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”
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10-12-2022, 08:18 PM
(10-04-2022, 10:37 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(10-04-2022, 10:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-cheat...mwhatsnews
Yikes, evidently the investigation showed that Niemann did, in fact, cheat, which he admitted.
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The report that WSJ references is available in full: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report
I'm old enough to remember when Deep Blue vs. Kasparov was actually a fair fight for the human. Part of what opened up cheating in chess is that AIs are so much better and faster than humans.
(10-04-2022, 10:37 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(10-04-2022, 10:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-cheat...mwhatsnews
Yikes, evidently the investigation showed that Niemann did, in fact, cheat, which he admitted.
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The report that WSJ references is available in full: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report
I'm old enough to remember when Deep Blue vs. Kasparov was actually a fair fight for the human. Part of what opened up cheating in chess is that AIs are so much better and faster than humans.
(10-12-2022, 08:37 AM)martyup Wrote: In my lifetime, I've personally encountered cheating in numerous competitions, especially when judging is subjective, and other endeavors. Included in this list is rodeo, wrestling (folk and freestyle), dance marathon, costume contests, Monopoly board games, school exams, speeding, employee timecards, card games, theft, litigation (judges and lawyers), and many others I've allowed my mind to forget.
IMO, cheating is instinctual in human beings. Breaking rules to gain advantage is highly seductive. Most of us are only dissuaded from cheating by the risk of being caught and the consequences that follow. Some, very few IMO, have a personal moral code that allows them to resist the temptation to cheat. Many others are guided by religion, which almost universally proscribes cheating.
The less risk averse a person is, the more likely they will break rules. Our prisons are full of persons with little or no risk aversion.
I had a high school football coach who repeatedly stated "It ain't cheating if you don't get caught." Sound advice for 16 year olds. Said coach had a long career in both the San Jose Unified and Santa Clara Unified School Districts. He was a principal at multiple schools. His last name was very similar to a Star Wars villain, which is how he became known among the teachers and staff at those schools.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(10-12-2022, 08:37 AM)martyup Wrote: In my lifetime, I've personally encountered cheating in numerous competitions, especially when judging is subjective, and other endeavors. Included in this list is rodeo, wrestling (folk and freestyle), dance marathon, costume contests, Monopoly board games, school exams, speeding, employee timecards, card games, theft, litigation (judges and lawyers), and many others I've allowed my mind to forget.
IMO, cheating is instinctual in human beings. Breaking rules to gain advantage is highly seductive. Most of us are only dissuaded from cheating by the risk of being caught and the consequences that follow. Some, very few IMO, have a personal moral code that allows them to resist the temptation to cheat. Many others are guided by religion, which almost universally proscribes cheating.
The less risk averse a person is, the more likely they will break rules. Our prisons are full of persons with little or no risk aversion.
I had a high school football coach who repeatedly stated "It ain't cheating if you don't get caught." Sound advice for 16 year olds. Said coach had a long career in both the San Jose Unified and Santa Clara Unified School Districts. He was a principal at multiple schools. His last name was very similar to a Star Wars villain, which is how he became known among the teachers and staff at those schools.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
11-02-2022, 02:40 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cornhole-ch...1667312803
And now, the epitome of this trend. Apparently cornhole has a cheating scandal named "baggate".
Oh, for goodness sakes. Is nothing sacred anymore?
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And now, the epitome of this trend. Apparently cornhole has a cheating scandal named "baggate".
Oh, for goodness sakes. Is nothing sacred anymore?
BC
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cornhole-ch...1667312803
And now, the epitome of this trend. Apparently cornhole has a cheating scandal named "baggate".
Oh, for goodness sakes. Is nothing sacred anymore?
BC
And now, the epitome of this trend. Apparently cornhole has a cheating scandal named "baggate".
Oh, for goodness sakes. Is nothing sacred anymore?
BC
11-02-2022, 02:49 PM
What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
11-02-2022, 03:53 PM
(11-02-2022, 02:49 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRWMYg5ZO0
(11-02-2022, 02:49 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRWMYg5ZO0
11-02-2022, 04:26 PM
(11-02-2022, 02:49 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
Not a scandal (yet), but there is a Reddit thread about cheating in pickle ball.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pickleball/comm...ame=iossmf
I love how it starts “aside from out calls”… I guess those are table stakes.
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(11-02-2022, 02:49 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: What's next, a pickle ball scandal?
Not a scandal (yet), but there is a Reddit thread about cheating in pickle ball.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pickleball/comm...ame=iossmf
I love how it starts “aside from out calls”… I guess those are table stakes.
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11-02-2022, 05:07 PM
Thanks everyone for the chuckles!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
Thanks everyone for the chuckles!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
11-04-2022, 09:32 PM
Rampant cheating, Formula 1 and EUFA edition
https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/1...e-red-bull
Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.
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https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/1...e-red-bull
Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.
BC
Rampant cheating, Formula 1 and EUFA edition
https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/1...e-red-bull
Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.
BC
https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/1...e-red-bull
Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.
BC
01-29-2023, 07:00 PM
My periodic re-up of this thread to note that *checks notes* professional snooker has been rocked by a match fixing scandal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
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My periodic re-up of this thread to note that *checks notes* professional snooker has been rocked by a match fixing scandal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
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01-29-2023, 08:07 PM
(11-04-2022, 10:24 PM)oldalum Wrote:(11-04-2022, 09:32 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.USC is featured in many threads of its own. Old news!
One of my favorite parts of the Varsity Blues scandal was a judge (paraphrased) that USC clearly auctions off a certain portion of their admits, so how is this any different?
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(11-04-2022, 10:24 PM)oldalum Wrote:(11-04-2022, 09:32 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Shocking to me that we have a thread on rampant cheating and USC is not featured.USC is featured in many threads of its own. Old news!
One of my favorite parts of the Varsity Blues scandal was a judge (paraphrased) that USC clearly auctions off a certain portion of their admits, so how is this any different?
Audaces fortuna iuvat
01-29-2023, 08:34 PM
(01-29-2023, 07:00 PM)BostonCard Wrote: My periodic re-up of this thread to note that *checks notes* professional snooker has been rocked by a match fixing scandal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
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One of the biggest drawbacks of moving the England campus from Cliveden to Oxford was losing the regulation size snooker table in the downstairs bar. I alternated between darts and snooker for an entire summer while snacking on cheese and tomato sandwiches and fresh lagers or ales while ogling the photo of Christine Keeler that hung behind the bar. Now that's British History!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(01-29-2023, 07:00 PM)BostonCard Wrote: My periodic re-up of this thread to note that *checks notes* professional snooker has been rocked by a match fixing scandal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/64152359
BC
One of the biggest drawbacks of moving the England campus from Cliveden to Oxford was losing the regulation size snooker table in the downstairs bar. I alternated between darts and snooker for an entire summer while snacking on cheese and tomato sandwiches and fresh lagers or ales while ogling the photo of Christine Keeler that hung behind the bar. Now that's British History!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
02-08-2023, 08:50 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...#xj4y7vzkg
To tie things all together, match fixing is everywhere, with allegations in such diverse sports as snooker, handball, triathlons, kabaddi matches in India(?), table tennis, tennis, volleyball and cricket. Basically, now that betting on sports has expanded to pretty much everywhere, it is not that much of a stretch to see that people are paying athletes to throw their matches.
Remind me again why there’s a push to bring gambling to campuses?
BC
To tie things all together, match fixing is everywhere, with allegations in such diverse sports as snooker, handball, triathlons, kabaddi matches in India(?), table tennis, tennis, volleyball and cricket. Basically, now that betting on sports has expanded to pretty much everywhere, it is not that much of a stretch to see that people are paying athletes to throw their matches.
Remind me again why there’s a push to bring gambling to campuses?
BC
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...#xj4y7vzkg
To tie things all together, match fixing is everywhere, with allegations in such diverse sports as snooker, handball, triathlons, kabaddi matches in India(?), table tennis, tennis, volleyball and cricket. Basically, now that betting on sports has expanded to pretty much everywhere, it is not that much of a stretch to see that people are paying athletes to throw their matches.
Remind me again why there’s a push to bring gambling to campuses?
BC
To tie things all together, match fixing is everywhere, with allegations in such diverse sports as snooker, handball, triathlons, kabaddi matches in India(?), table tennis, tennis, volleyball and cricket. Basically, now that betting on sports has expanded to pretty much everywhere, it is not that much of a stretch to see that people are paying athletes to throw their matches.
Remind me again why there’s a push to bring gambling to campuses?
BC
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