TT seemed uncommunicative, low-energy, and in a I-can't-wait-to-get-out-of-here funk in his post-game presser Saturday night. I found his demeanor surprising. Any chance that, given what he's seen and experienced since he's been here, he's having buyer's remorse about having taken the job? Or is he still categorically committed to turning things around?
TT's post-game press conference Saturday night
TT seemed uncommunicative, low-energy, and in a I-can't-wait-to-get-out-of-here funk in his post-game presser Saturday night. I found his demeanor surprising. Any chance that, given what he's seen and experienced since he's been here, he's having buyer's remorse about having taken the job? Or is he still categorically committed to turning things around?
09-18-2023, 10:20 AM
Not to mention that he got there so quickly that most of the media supposedly were still making their way down to the press conference by the time Taylor scrammed and Sinclair started answering questions. I have to wonder how little Taylor must have addressed the team if he was so focused on getting out of Dodge. Four minute press conference!
I don't know about buyer's remorse but I'm picking up on more and more troubling things each week when it comes to coach and player body language and other vibes. Rough couple of weeks.
I don't know about buyer's remorse but I'm picking up on more and more troubling things each week when it comes to coach and player body language and other vibes. Rough couple of weeks.
Not to mention that he got there so quickly that most of the media supposedly were still making their way down to the press conference by the time Taylor scrammed and Sinclair started answering questions. I have to wonder how little Taylor must have addressed the team if he was so focused on getting out of Dodge. Four minute press conference!
I don't know about buyer's remorse but I'm picking up on more and more troubling things each week when it comes to coach and player body language and other vibes. Rough couple of weeks.
I don't know about buyer's remorse but I'm picking up on more and more troubling things each week when it comes to coach and player body language and other vibes. Rough couple of weeks.
09-18-2023, 11:02 AM
I think Coach TT's now abrupt and generally uncommunicative attitude towards the media can be read in one of two ways:
a) He knows the past 2 games have been an abysmal showing. He knows this is falling far short of putting a good "product" on the field, which he already alluded to earlier as being what's needed to revive both the team and fan interest. He knows spending time with media won't help towards his goal, so he is concentrated on spending his time and energy with the coaches and players, where he knows the attention is needed.
b) He's already fed up and disillusioned with the program
Someone in the inner circles of coaching or in the locker room might be able to discern between the two.
From the outside, I'm hoping it's a).
a) He knows the past 2 games have been an abysmal showing. He knows this is falling far short of putting a good "product" on the field, which he already alluded to earlier as being what's needed to revive both the team and fan interest. He knows spending time with media won't help towards his goal, so he is concentrated on spending his time and energy with the coaches and players, where he knows the attention is needed.
b) He's already fed up and disillusioned with the program
Someone in the inner circles of coaching or in the locker room might be able to discern between the two.
From the outside, I'm hoping it's a).
I think Coach TT's now abrupt and generally uncommunicative attitude towards the media can be read in one of two ways:
a) He knows the past 2 games have been an abysmal showing. He knows this is falling far short of putting a good "product" on the field, which he already alluded to earlier as being what's needed to revive both the team and fan interest. He knows spending time with media won't help towards his goal, so he is concentrated on spending his time and energy with the coaches and players, where he knows the attention is needed.
b) He's already fed up and disillusioned with the program
Someone in the inner circles of coaching or in the locker room might be able to discern between the two.
From the outside, I'm hoping it's a).
a) He knows the past 2 games have been an abysmal showing. He knows this is falling far short of putting a good "product" on the field, which he already alluded to earlier as being what's needed to revive both the team and fan interest. He knows spending time with media won't help towards his goal, so he is concentrated on spending his time and energy with the coaches and players, where he knows the attention is needed.
b) He's already fed up and disillusioned with the program
Someone in the inner circles of coaching or in the locker room might be able to discern between the two.
From the outside, I'm hoping it's a).
09-18-2023, 11:36 AM
Man, we are three games into the season and many are psycho analyzing TT and others looking for guillotines.
As for the press conference, maybe he thought that with few there, no one else was going to show up and he didn't want to waste his time; after all, didn't only three people show up for the post game presser after the win against Hawaii, and that was on zoom?
As for the press conference, maybe he thought that with few there, no one else was going to show up and he didn't want to waste his time; after all, didn't only three people show up for the post game presser after the win against Hawaii, and that was on zoom?
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
Man, we are three games into the season and many are psycho analyzing TT and others looking for guillotines.
As for the press conference, maybe he thought that with few there, no one else was going to show up and he didn't want to waste his time; after all, didn't only three people show up for the post game presser after the win against Hawaii, and that was on zoom?
As for the press conference, maybe he thought that with few there, no one else was going to show up and he didn't want to waste his time; after all, didn't only three people show up for the post game presser after the win against Hawaii, and that was on zoom?
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(09-18-2023, 11:36 AM)cardcrimson Wrote:
Man, we are three games into the season and many are psycho analyzing TT and others looking for guillotines.
Cardcrimson, well said. Think back to when the current women's head basketball coach left their head coaching position at The Ohio State University where she developed a very successful program and came to Stanford to build a program. I view TT's situation much in the same way. Turning around a football program is harder than basketball due to the larger number of players required.
(09-18-2023, 11:36 AM)cardcrimson Wrote:
Man, we are three games into the season and many are psycho analyzing TT and others looking for guillotines.
Cardcrimson, well said. Think back to when the current women's head basketball coach left their head coaching position at The Ohio State University where she developed a very successful program and came to Stanford to build a program. I view TT's situation much in the same way. Turning around a football program is harder than basketball due to the larger number of players required.
09-18-2023, 11:55 AM
Simple explanation: he was embarrassed and pissed to watch his former assistants live it up at his expense. Get off the stage before you say something you'll regret for a long time. The guy is a human being. But, who knows, this might be Dowhower again, and the Broncos look like they need some help.
Simple explanation: he was embarrassed and pissed to watch his former assistants live it up at his expense. Get off the stage before you say something you'll regret for a long time. The guy is a human being. But, who knows, this might be Dowhower again, and the Broncos look like they need some help.
09-18-2023, 12:24 PM
(09-18-2023, 11:55 AM)jacket3ree Wrote: Simple explanation: he was embarrassed and pissed to watch his former assistants live it up at his expense. Get off the stage before you say something you'll regret for a long time. The guy is a human being. But, who knows, this might be Dowhower again, and the Broncos look like they need some help.In spite of the stumbling start, I sure hope Coach TT does not pull a Dowhower.
(09-18-2023, 11:55 AM)jacket3ree Wrote: Simple explanation: he was embarrassed and pissed to watch his former assistants live it up at his expense. Get off the stage before you say something you'll regret for a long time. The guy is a human being. But, who knows, this might be Dowhower again, and the Broncos look like they need some help.In spite of the stumbling start, I sure hope Coach TT does not pull a Dowhower.
If you watch TT’s other interviews — including ones from *before * the season when anything was possible, he just doesn’t enjoy the media part. I think most coaches dislike it (with notable exceptions like Mike Leach), and they just get used to it as part of their job at a Power 5 program. Even before the season, about 2 questions in, TT would start glancing off at a clock, as if wondering already, man, when will this be over so I can get out of here and get back to football?
As for thinking about quitting already, wow, I cannot imagine that. Sports is supposed to teach you to persevere and to work through adversity. It’s a coach’s job to keep the kids motivated during hard times. I cannot imagine the grownup being the quitter.
He probably just wants to end a miserable day and start watching tape to see what happened and to prepare for next week.
New students arrive tomorrow and returning students start arriving Thursday. This weekend’s game is the first opportunity to play in front of your friends, dorm mates, classmates, and heck, maybe future girlfriends and spouses. Usually the first home game after students arrive gives a burst of fresh energy in the stadium and on the field.
As for thinking about quitting already, wow, I cannot imagine that. Sports is supposed to teach you to persevere and to work through adversity. It’s a coach’s job to keep the kids motivated during hard times. I cannot imagine the grownup being the quitter.
He probably just wants to end a miserable day and start watching tape to see what happened and to prepare for next week.
New students arrive tomorrow and returning students start arriving Thursday. This weekend’s game is the first opportunity to play in front of your friends, dorm mates, classmates, and heck, maybe future girlfriends and spouses. Usually the first home game after students arrive gives a burst of fresh energy in the stadium and on the field.
If you watch TT’s other interviews — including ones from *before * the season when anything was possible, he just doesn’t enjoy the media part. I think most coaches dislike it (with notable exceptions like Mike Leach), and they just get used to it as part of their job at a Power 5 program. Even before the season, about 2 questions in, TT would start glancing off at a clock, as if wondering already, man, when will this be over so I can get out of here and get back to football?
As for thinking about quitting already, wow, I cannot imagine that. Sports is supposed to teach you to persevere and to work through adversity. It’s a coach’s job to keep the kids motivated during hard times. I cannot imagine the grownup being the quitter.
He probably just wants to end a miserable day and start watching tape to see what happened and to prepare for next week.
New students arrive tomorrow and returning students start arriving Thursday. This weekend’s game is the first opportunity to play in front of your friends, dorm mates, classmates, and heck, maybe future girlfriends and spouses. Usually the first home game after students arrive gives a burst of fresh energy in the stadium and on the field.
As for thinking about quitting already, wow, I cannot imagine that. Sports is supposed to teach you to persevere and to work through adversity. It’s a coach’s job to keep the kids motivated during hard times. I cannot imagine the grownup being the quitter.
He probably just wants to end a miserable day and start watching tape to see what happened and to prepare for next week.
New students arrive tomorrow and returning students start arriving Thursday. This weekend’s game is the first opportunity to play in front of your friends, dorm mates, classmates, and heck, maybe future girlfriends and spouses. Usually the first home game after students arrive gives a burst of fresh energy in the stadium and on the field.
09-18-2023, 01:59 PM
(09-18-2023, 01:19 PM)Snorlax94 Wrote: If you watch TT’s other interviews — including ones from *before * the season when anything was possible, he just doesn’t enjoy the media part.
Part of the job, and Muir is a fool to not understand the importance of media relations and marketing. It's pretty much why Stanford finds itself in the position it is in now.
Compare Taylor to Sanders and Harbaugh. Don't think it is a coincidence that they were able to turn things around rather quickly. Of course, I fully expect the Buffs to finish like 7-5 or 8-4 at best, but Sanders still will have authored one hell of a turnaround.
(09-18-2023, 01:19 PM)Snorlax94 Wrote: If you watch TT’s other interviews — including ones from *before * the season when anything was possible, he just doesn’t enjoy the media part.
Part of the job, and Muir is a fool to not understand the importance of media relations and marketing. It's pretty much why Stanford finds itself in the position it is in now.
Compare Taylor to Sanders and Harbaugh. Don't think it is a coincidence that they were able to turn things around rather quickly. Of course, I fully expect the Buffs to finish like 7-5 or 8-4 at best, but Sanders still will have authored one hell of a turnaround.
09-18-2023, 02:12 PM
Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
09-18-2023, 03:23 PM
(09-18-2023, 02:12 PM)marchballer Wrote: Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Which is why I added Harbaugh in there. Winning in part comes from the tone a coach sets that appeals to recruits. There is a reason Bill Bellichick would never be a college Head Coach. Doesn't have the personality for it.
When Taylor was hired, I assumed he would be a capable media person, because that's part of the job, especially when re-building the program, but it appears to not be the case. I'm not going to dismiss him so early in his tenure, but lack of media savvy is not going to make his already hard job any easier.
(09-18-2023, 02:12 PM)marchballer Wrote: Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Which is why I added Harbaugh in there. Winning in part comes from the tone a coach sets that appeals to recruits. There is a reason Bill Bellichick would never be a college Head Coach. Doesn't have the personality for it.
When Taylor was hired, I assumed he would be a capable media person, because that's part of the job, especially when re-building the program, but it appears to not be the case. I'm not going to dismiss him so early in his tenure, but lack of media savvy is not going to make his already hard job any easier.
09-18-2023, 03:49 PM
(09-18-2023, 03:23 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:Yeah, that Saban guy is such a charmer. He would never had turned Bama around without his congenial nature towards the press.(09-18-2023, 02:12 PM)marchballer Wrote: Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Which is why I added Harbaugh in there. Winning in part comes from the tone a coach sets that appeals to recruits. There is a reason Bill Bellichick would never be a college Head Coach. Doesn't have the personality for it.
When Taylor was hired, I assumed he would be a capable media person, because that's part of the job, especially when re-building the program, but it appears to not be the case. I'm not going to dismiss him so early in his tenure, but lack of media savvy is not going to make his already hard job any easier.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(09-18-2023, 03:23 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:Yeah, that Saban guy is such a charmer. He would never had turned Bama around without his congenial nature towards the press.(09-18-2023, 02:12 PM)marchballer Wrote: Come on let’s not put Deion Sanders and TT. One brought in and entirely new team snd the other inherited a gutted team.
Winning solves a lot of the media problems.
Which is why I added Harbaugh in there. Winning in part comes from the tone a coach sets that appeals to recruits. There is a reason Bill Bellichick would never be a college Head Coach. Doesn't have the personality for it.
When Taylor was hired, I assumed he would be a capable media person, because that's part of the job, especially when re-building the program, but it appears to not be the case. I'm not going to dismiss him so early in his tenure, but lack of media savvy is not going to make his already hard job any easier.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
09-20-2023, 11:21 AM
I thought Saturday night's presser was short, but I was honestly a little more concerned by the shortness of yesterday's midweek presser.
As much as people talked about David Shaw's lack of emotion -- remember the Faces of Shaw t-shirt? -- it was actually pretty easy to read what he felt about a game within about thirty seconds of his arrival at the press conference. He could be proud and happy, he could be disappointed, he could be angry, he could be defiant. It was all pretty easy to gauge.
But watching Taylor has been different. Some have said that he wants to focus on the football, not the media, and I think there's some truth to that. I was able to talk to him for ten or fifteen minutes at media day, and he was great. He was incredibly nice, he gave me thoughtful answers to his questions, and he thanked me for my time when he had to go. But here's one exchange that I wondered about at the time and have wondered more about this week...
When I asked him about being the face of the program, what I didn't say is that you don't really have to do that at a place like Sacramento State, and you certainly don't do that when you're the offensive coordinator. What's clear from his answer is that he loves football and thinking about football. I agree that it's foolish to start psycho analyzing at this point -- or at any point -- but it could be as simple as being eager to get back on his schedule so that he can continue moving the program forward. He told me that the media would be the hardest part of his in-season job, so maybe that's what we're seeing.
Also, as some have alluded to, there's the very human emotions connected with public disappointment, especially when the disappointment comes at the hands of your former team. At any rate, I think we're going to see much more disappointment. One way to measure Taylor going forward, I think, is not just by the product we see on the field, but in his growth as the face of the program. It's important.
As much as people talked about David Shaw's lack of emotion -- remember the Faces of Shaw t-shirt? -- it was actually pretty easy to read what he felt about a game within about thirty seconds of his arrival at the press conference. He could be proud and happy, he could be disappointed, he could be angry, he could be defiant. It was all pretty easy to gauge.
But watching Taylor has been different. Some have said that he wants to focus on the football, not the media, and I think there's some truth to that. I was able to talk to him for ten or fifteen minutes at media day, and he was great. He was incredibly nice, he gave me thoughtful answers to his questions, and he thanked me for my time when he had to go. But here's one exchange that I wondered about at the time and have wondered more about this week...
Quote:GMC:
Yeah. And I was interested in that -- how you balance head coach vs. coordinator and what your work load looks like. For instance, you're going to be calling plays, correct?
Taylor:
Yup.GMC:
What does that look like for you during the week and then game day?Taylor:
I believe that if you're the play caller, you need to script too. You actually script every play in the practice. So we'll have maybe 140 plays that we'll script. I'll script. The staff will be responsible for having the cards ready. I do the game plan. And I'm a pretty good multi-tasker. The offensive thing, to be honest with you, I love the football part of the game so much, it's a big part of the reason why I coach. I see things strategically, it's something that really invigorates me. I love the creative part of it. So I just kind of balance it. I would say the hardest part is the in-season part, which will be for me during the season, media wise. A lot of head coaches don't do the game plan.GMC:Taylor:
Right, they're kind of like a CEO or the face of the program.
That's right, that's right. I am gonna do that. I've been able to do that in the past, and I'll continue to do it. You just gotta trust people in certain areas and use your time. I'm very big on staying on schedules. I wake up at the same time, I go to sleep at the same time. I stay on that, and I just kind trust what we're doing. I'm not trying to reinvent the game.
When I asked him about being the face of the program, what I didn't say is that you don't really have to do that at a place like Sacramento State, and you certainly don't do that when you're the offensive coordinator. What's clear from his answer is that he loves football and thinking about football. I agree that it's foolish to start psycho analyzing at this point -- or at any point -- but it could be as simple as being eager to get back on his schedule so that he can continue moving the program forward. He told me that the media would be the hardest part of his in-season job, so maybe that's what we're seeing.
Also, as some have alluded to, there's the very human emotions connected with public disappointment, especially when the disappointment comes at the hands of your former team. At any rate, I think we're going to see much more disappointment. One way to measure Taylor going forward, I think, is not just by the product we see on the field, but in his growth as the face of the program. It's important.
Please clear the field! The game is not over!
I thought Saturday night's presser was short, but I was honestly a little more concerned by the shortness of yesterday's midweek presser.
As much as people talked about David Shaw's lack of emotion -- remember the Faces of Shaw t-shirt? -- it was actually pretty easy to read what he felt about a game within about thirty seconds of his arrival at the press conference. He could be proud and happy, he could be disappointed, he could be angry, he could be defiant. It was all pretty easy to gauge.
But watching Taylor has been different. Some have said that he wants to focus on the football, not the media, and I think there's some truth to that. I was able to talk to him for ten or fifteen minutes at media day, and he was great. He was incredibly nice, he gave me thoughtful answers to his questions, and he thanked me for my time when he had to go. But here's one exchange that I wondered about at the time and have wondered more about this week...
When I asked him about being the face of the program, what I didn't say is that you don't really have to do that at a place like Sacramento State, and you certainly don't do that when you're the offensive coordinator. What's clear from his answer is that he loves football and thinking about football. I agree that it's foolish to start psycho analyzing at this point -- or at any point -- but it could be as simple as being eager to get back on his schedule so that he can continue moving the program forward. He told me that the media would be the hardest part of his in-season job, so maybe that's what we're seeing.
Also, as some have alluded to, there's the very human emotions connected with public disappointment, especially when the disappointment comes at the hands of your former team. At any rate, I think we're going to see much more disappointment. One way to measure Taylor going forward, I think, is not just by the product we see on the field, but in his growth as the face of the program. It's important.
As much as people talked about David Shaw's lack of emotion -- remember the Faces of Shaw t-shirt? -- it was actually pretty easy to read what he felt about a game within about thirty seconds of his arrival at the press conference. He could be proud and happy, he could be disappointed, he could be angry, he could be defiant. It was all pretty easy to gauge.
But watching Taylor has been different. Some have said that he wants to focus on the football, not the media, and I think there's some truth to that. I was able to talk to him for ten or fifteen minutes at media day, and he was great. He was incredibly nice, he gave me thoughtful answers to his questions, and he thanked me for my time when he had to go. But here's one exchange that I wondered about at the time and have wondered more about this week...
Quote:GMC:
Yeah. And I was interested in that -- how you balance head coach vs. coordinator and what your work load looks like. For instance, you're going to be calling plays, correct?
Taylor:
Yup.GMC:
What does that look like for you during the week and then game day?Taylor:
I believe that if you're the play caller, you need to script too. You actually script every play in the practice. So we'll have maybe 140 plays that we'll script. I'll script. The staff will be responsible for having the cards ready. I do the game plan. And I'm a pretty good multi-tasker. The offensive thing, to be honest with you, I love the football part of the game so much, it's a big part of the reason why I coach. I see things strategically, it's something that really invigorates me. I love the creative part of it. So I just kind of balance it. I would say the hardest part is the in-season part, which will be for me during the season, media wise. A lot of head coaches don't do the game plan.GMC:Taylor:
Right, they're kind of like a CEO or the face of the program.
That's right, that's right. I am gonna do that. I've been able to do that in the past, and I'll continue to do it. You just gotta trust people in certain areas and use your time. I'm very big on staying on schedules. I wake up at the same time, I go to sleep at the same time. I stay on that, and I just kind trust what we're doing. I'm not trying to reinvent the game.
When I asked him about being the face of the program, what I didn't say is that you don't really have to do that at a place like Sacramento State, and you certainly don't do that when you're the offensive coordinator. What's clear from his answer is that he loves football and thinking about football. I agree that it's foolish to start psycho analyzing at this point -- or at any point -- but it could be as simple as being eager to get back on his schedule so that he can continue moving the program forward. He told me that the media would be the hardest part of his in-season job, so maybe that's what we're seeing.
Also, as some have alluded to, there's the very human emotions connected with public disappointment, especially when the disappointment comes at the hands of your former team. At any rate, I think we're going to see much more disappointment. One way to measure Taylor going forward, I think, is not just by the product we see on the field, but in his growth as the face of the program. It's important.
Please clear the field! The game is not over!
Wow. Everybody must have been a psychology major. It’s three games. He just lost to his former team, an FCS school, one week after having 49 points put on him in a half. You expect him to be ebullient and full of shits and giggles? He’s looking at 1-11. And not a pretty 1-11.
He knew it was gonna be one hell of a tough job coming in. If he’s ready to leave after three games, he’s in the wrong business.
He knew it was gonna be one hell of a tough job coming in. If he’s ready to leave after three games, he’s in the wrong business.
Wow. Everybody must have been a psychology major. It’s three games. He just lost to his former team, an FCS school, one week after having 49 points put on him in a half. You expect him to be ebullient and full of shits and giggles? He’s looking at 1-11. And not a pretty 1-11.
He knew it was gonna be one hell of a tough job coming in. If he’s ready to leave after three games, he’s in the wrong business.
He knew it was gonna be one hell of a tough job coming in. If he’s ready to leave after three games, he’s in the wrong business.
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