[BostonCard]

Hi (and also to BostonCard),

(2). A while back in some other post-thread BostonCard described that (I am paraphrasing here) that "50 million dollars a year" was an almost minuscule percentage of Stanfords overall Operating Budget & Endowments, & that the amount of the 'Athletic Dept budget' was almost not important enough to be listed as a line-item in the Overall Stanford University Budget/Asset Ledgers;  I apologize Boston Card if I am misrepresenting what you may have said in an earlier post ..& please correct me, as I dont mean to.

That is correct as far as I can tell; when I looked at the annual report, the athletics budget (and revenue) are small enough not to merit their own line item.

So, yes, Stanford could afford $10 million a year salary for a star AD.  But that’s not how this works. There’s a lot that Stanford *could* afford because it is small potatoes compared to its overall budget, but won’t do, because cumulatively all these things would be substantial and even Stanford doesn’t have the budget to throw money at every stakeholder’s vanity. Grad students are about to strike; Stanford could afford their demands. Stanford could acquire the Notre Dame campus. Stanford could do a lot of things. But generally, it is unrealistic to think that it will, barring someone or a group of people cutting Stanford a check specifically to do it.

On a separate issue, I don’t think throwing money at the problem is a viable solution. Stanford already has one of the largest athletic departments in the country. It already heavily subsidizes the department (all the more so since the demise of the PAC-12). Stanford needs to figure out its strategic direction first, needs to plot a path towards long-term sustainability that won’t depend on whether the University President is a sports fan or indifferent to athletics, and plot a path to get there.  Throwing money at a splashy AD hire won’t get us there.

BC

[BostonCard]

Hi (and also to BostonCard),

(2). A while back in some other post-thread BostonCard described that (I am paraphrasing here) that "50 million dollars a year" was an almost minuscule percentage of Stanfords overall Operating Budget & Endowments, & that the amount of the 'Athletic Dept budget' was almost not important enough to be listed as a line-item in the Overall Stanford University Budget/Asset Ledgers;  I apologize Boston Card if I am misrepresenting what you may have said in an earlier post ..& please correct me, as I dont mean to.

That is correct as far as I can tell; when I looked at the annual report, the athletics budget (and revenue) are small enough not to merit their own line item.

So, yes, Stanford could afford $10 million a year salary for a star AD.  But that’s not how this works. There’s a lot that Stanford *could* afford because it is small potatoes compared to its overall budget, but won’t do, because cumulatively all these things would be substantial and even Stanford doesn’t have the budget to throw money at every stakeholder’s vanity. Grad students are about to strike; Stanford could afford their demands. Stanford could acquire the Notre Dame campus. Stanford could do a lot of things. But generally, it is unrealistic to think that it will, barring someone or a group of people cutting Stanford a check specifically to do it.

On a separate issue, I don’t think throwing money at the problem is a viable solution. Stanford already has one of the largest athletic departments in the country. It already heavily subsidizes the department (all the more so since the demise of the PAC-12). Stanford needs to figure out its strategic direction first, needs to plot a path towards long-term sustainability that won’t depend on whether the University President is a sports fan or indifferent to athletics, and plot a path to get there.  Throwing money at a splashy AD hire won’t get us there.

BC

[82lsju]

given my perception of the relative desirability of the job I would expect whoever is selected is unlikely to be celebrated here as a "great hire"

That's why I suggested the AD of Duke.

Stanford has cancelled the option to purchase Notre Dame Belmont which reduces some financial pressure but is an indication of a possibly tough financial environment over the next 4 years (lower NIH research and indirect costs, lower Federal scholarship aid, possible new tax on endowment).  The university subsidy for athletics is likely to be part of any cuts.

and she would see this job as better because?

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from Ann Killion

Muir will be stepping down after 13 years as Stanford’s athletic director. Thirteen very complicated years. 

Sure, Muir oversaw a department that won more than 30 national championships, eight Director’s Cups and set records for Olympic medals won by former or current Stanford athletes. On his watch, a winning Stanford football program that he inherited went to three Rose Bowls, winning two. Women’s basketball won another national championship.

But Muir’s tenure may be most remembered for his decisions that hurt Stanford’s image, ripped at the fabric of Stanford athletics and put the university at a competitive disadvantage.

Because of those decisions Muir lost the trust and confidence of many key alumni, coaches and donors to the athletic program. And it’s not clear that he ever regained the trust critical to running a large, historically influential department. 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annki...b0d57f2520

[82lsju]

given my perception of the relative desirability of the job I would expect whoever is selected is unlikely to be celebrated here as a "great hire"

That's why I suggested the AD of Duke.

Stanford has cancelled the option to purchase Notre Dame Belmont which reduces some financial pressure but is an indication of a possibly tough financial environment over the next 4 years (lower NIH research and indirect costs, lower Federal scholarship aid, possible new tax on endowment).  The university subsidy for athletics is likely to be part of any cuts.

and she would see this job as better because?

---

from Ann Killion

Muir will be stepping down after 13 years as Stanford’s athletic director. Thirteen very complicated years. 

Sure, Muir oversaw a department that won more than 30 national championships, eight Director’s Cups and set records for Olympic medals won by former or current Stanford athletes. On his watch, a winning Stanford football program that he inherited went to three Rose Bowls, winning two. Women’s basketball won another national championship.

But Muir’s tenure may be most remembered for his decisions that hurt Stanford’s image, ripped at the fabric of Stanford athletics and put the university at a competitive disadvantage.

Because of those decisions Muir lost the trust and confidence of many key alumni, coaches and donors to the athletic program. And it’s not clear that he ever regained the trust critical to running a large, historically influential department. 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annki...b0d57f2520

[jacket3ree]

I don't know the status of The Jaquish & Kenninger endowment, but the AD is an endowed position. ADs cost a fraction of a superstar coach. This is more about "who" than "how much". I'd look to a top-level next-in-line assistant at a bigtime program killing it in football and/or basketball, but football.

Or...Jacketree Junior has more than half a year of business school under his belt and is already embedded within UVA's AD doing some sort of comprehensive financial project with a non-disclosure. I only know he loves it and his dream is to be an AD someday. Quick coaching trigger too. He was on Shaw and Haase even ahead of most of us, sans the Fiesta Bowl zealots.

[jacket3ree]

I don't know the status of The Jaquish & Kenninger endowment, but the AD is an endowed position. ADs cost a fraction of a superstar coach. This is more about "who" than "how much". I'd look to a top-level next-in-line assistant at a bigtime program killing it in football and/or basketball, but football.

Or...Jacketree Junior has more than half a year of business school under his belt and is already embedded within UVA's AD doing some sort of comprehensive financial project with a non-disclosure. I only know he loves it and his dream is to be an AD someday. Quick coaching trigger too. He was on Shaw and Haase even ahead of most of us, sans the Fiesta Bowl zealots.

[StanUSwagU]

I don't know the status of The Jaquish & Kenninger endowment, but the AD is an endowed position. ADs cost a fraction of a superstar coach. This is more about "who" than "how much". I'd look to a top-level next-in-line assistant at a bigtime program killing it in football and/or basketball, but football.

Or...Jacketree Junior has more than half a year of business school under his belt and is already embedded within UVA's AD doing some sort of comprehensive financial project with a non-disclosure. I only know he loves it and his dream is to be an AD someday. Quick coaching trigger too. He was on Shaw and Haase even ahead of most of us, sans the Fiesta Bowl zealots.

Do we need to start a 'Jacketree Junior for Stanford AD' campaign here on the CardBoard ? :o)

[StanUSwagU]

I don't know the status of The Jaquish & Kenninger endowment, but the AD is an endowed position. ADs cost a fraction of a superstar coach. This is more about "who" than "how much". I'd look to a top-level next-in-line assistant at a bigtime program killing it in football and/or basketball, but football.

Or...Jacketree Junior has more than half a year of business school under his belt and is already embedded within UVA's AD doing some sort of comprehensive financial project with a non-disclosure. I only know he loves it and his dream is to be an AD someday. Quick coaching trigger too. He was on Shaw and Haase even ahead of most of us, sans the Fiesta Bowl zealots.

Do we need to start a 'Jacketree Junior for Stanford AD' campaign here on the CardBoard ? :o)

[fullmetal]

Tanner Gardner ('07) is the AD at Pepperdine.  He just started there eight months ago though.

https://pepperdinewaves.com/staff-direct...ardner/425

[fullmetal]

Tanner Gardner ('07) is the AD at Pepperdine.  He just started there eight months ago though.

https://pepperdinewaves.com/staff-direct...ardner/425

[ADPinWDC]

I'm wondering if Andrew Luck being hired as the football GM  was a blow to the ego and the catalyst for leaving.

As an FYI, I heard from someone within DAPER that it's not all sunshine and rainbows with AL. I was told that he's not listening to the experienced people and relying on advice from football buddies without any sports management experience. 

Don't know if that's only one person's opinion or if it goes deeper than that. For now, I will give Andrew the benefit of the doubt that he's earned, and even if it's true, it may not be a bad idea to go with outside opinions.

So, then -- Who does Andrew Luck want as AD?
I would start there.   He knows lots of viable candidates

[ADPinWDC]

I'm wondering if Andrew Luck being hired as the football GM  was a blow to the ego and the catalyst for leaving.

As an FYI, I heard from someone within DAPER that it's not all sunshine and rainbows with AL. I was told that he's not listening to the experienced people and relying on advice from football buddies without any sports management experience. 

Don't know if that's only one person's opinion or if it goes deeper than that. For now, I will give Andrew the benefit of the doubt that he's earned, and even if it's true, it may not be a bad idea to go with outside opinions.

So, then -- Who does Andrew Luck want as AD?
I would start there.   He knows lots of viable candidates