01-08-2026, 09:56 AM
MBB: Stanford 69 -- VaTech 68
(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
01-08-2026, 10:25 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2026, 10:26 AM by SamuelMcF.)
(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
01-08-2026, 11:03 AM
(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
01-08-2026, 11:30 AM
(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote: Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
I agree. I’ve been very pleased with the season so far. There was a part of me, however, that was thinking that our overall record and big wins might have been enough to push us into the discussion for the tournament so I was a bit disappointed to see that it wasn’t quite there.
I don’t expect to get an at large bid, but it’s probably a good thing that a few games into the ACC season, it is not a total pipe dream.
BC
(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote: Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
I agree. I’ve been very pleased with the season so far. There was a part of me, however, that was thinking that our overall record and big wins might have been enough to push us into the discussion for the tournament so I was a bit disappointed to see that it wasn’t quite there.
I don’t expect to get an at large bid, but it’s probably a good thing that a few games into the ACC season, it is not a total pipe dream.
BC
01-08-2026, 12:16 PM
(01-07-2026, 08:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: I've never heard of any player, college or pro, who did something like scored or assisted on last 40 of 42 points.
Great observation! I looked up the second half play-by-play from last night's game. Here are Stanford's scores:
19:27 Benny Gealer makes 28-foot three point jumper (Oskar Giltay assists) 27 31
15:21 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 2 28 39
15:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 2 of 2 29 39
14:36 Donavin Young makes 23-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 32 41
14:07 Oskar Giltay makes 5-foot hook shot (Ebuka Okorie assists) 34 43
13:52 Ebuka Okorie makes 18-foot step back jumpshot 36 43
13:12 Ebuka Okorie makes 24-foot three point jumper (Donavin Young assists) 39 43
11:54 Donavin Young makes 24-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 42 44
10:52 Aidan Cammann makes layup 44 48
8:59 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 46 52
7:08 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 48 57
6:06 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 50 57
5:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 2 51 58
5:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 2 of 2 52 58
2:35 Benny Gealer makes 26-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 55 65
2:09 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 57 67
2:09 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 1 58 67
1:40 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 60 67
1:08 Ebuka Okorie makes 24-foot three point jumper (Cameron Grant assists) 63 67
0:28 Donavin Young makes 25-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 66 67
0:03 Ebuka Okorie makes 32-foot three point step back jumpshot 69 68
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
(01-07-2026, 08:11 PM)old spanish trail Wrote: I've never heard of any player, college or pro, who did something like scored or assisted on last 40 of 42 points.
Great observation! I looked up the second half play-by-play from last night's game. Here are Stanford's scores:
19:27 Benny Gealer makes 28-foot three point jumper (Oskar Giltay assists) 27 31
15:21 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 2 28 39
15:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 2 of 2 29 39
14:36 Donavin Young makes 23-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 32 41
14:07 Oskar Giltay makes 5-foot hook shot (Ebuka Okorie assists) 34 43
13:52 Ebuka Okorie makes 18-foot step back jumpshot 36 43
13:12 Ebuka Okorie makes 24-foot three point jumper (Donavin Young assists) 39 43
11:54 Donavin Young makes 24-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 42 44
10:52 Aidan Cammann makes layup 44 48
8:59 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 46 52
7:08 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 48 57
6:06 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 50 57
5:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 2 51 58
5:20 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 2 of 2 52 58
2:35 Benny Gealer makes 26-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 55 65
2:09 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 57 67
2:09 Ebuka Okorie makes free throw 1 of 1 58 67
1:40 Ebuka Okorie makes driving layup 60 67
1:08 Ebuka Okorie makes 24-foot three point jumper (Cameron Grant assists) 63 67
0:28 Donavin Young makes 25-foot three point jumper (Ebuka Okorie assists) 66 67
0:03 Ebuka Okorie makes 32-foot three point step back jumpshot 69 68
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
01-08-2026, 12:58 PM
My optimistic side is really enjoying this elation after 2 spectacular ACC wins over really good teams.
However, my realistic side is reminding me there is a gauntlet upcoming soon.
And after a few more games, don't be surprised if there is a bit of coming back to earth.
So I'm going with setting my realistic expectations on NIT again this year.
Anything more than that, I'll wait before inflating my head any further.
However, my realistic side is reminding me there is a gauntlet upcoming soon.
And after a few more games, don't be surprised if there is a bit of coming back to earth.
So I'm going with setting my realistic expectations on NIT again this year.
Anything more than that, I'll wait before inflating my head any further.
My optimistic side is really enjoying this elation after 2 spectacular ACC wins over really good teams.
However, my realistic side is reminding me there is a gauntlet upcoming soon.
And after a few more games, don't be surprised if there is a bit of coming back to earth.
So I'm going with setting my realistic expectations on NIT again this year.
Anything more than that, I'll wait before inflating my head any further.
However, my realistic side is reminding me there is a gauntlet upcoming soon.
And after a few more games, don't be surprised if there is a bit of coming back to earth.
So I'm going with setting my realistic expectations on NIT again this year.
Anything more than that, I'll wait before inflating my head any further.
01-08-2026, 02:34 PM
Well, we're going to be everyone's trap game this season. Gotta feel good about that.
WOW -- what a performance by Okorie!
Gonna go get the jersey, NIL.
Even Boeheim chimed in.
He has gotta be all-Frosh, first team All-Am this season with Boozer at Duke and Dybantsa at BYU.
Still in Top Ten NCAA all scorers.
Gonna go get the jersey, NIL.
Even Boeheim chimed in.
He has gotta be all-Frosh, first team All-Am this season with Boozer at Duke and Dybantsa at BYU.
Still in Top Ten NCAA all scorers.
WOW -- what a performance by Okorie!
Gonna go get the jersey, NIL.
Even Boeheim chimed in.
He has gotta be all-Frosh, first team All-Am this season with Boozer at Duke and Dybantsa at BYU.
Still in Top Ten NCAA all scorers.
Gonna go get the jersey, NIL.
Even Boeheim chimed in.
He has gotta be all-Frosh, first team All-Am this season with Boozer at Duke and Dybantsa at BYU.
Still in Top Ten NCAA all scorers.
01-08-2026, 06:31 PM
For you night owls, the ACC network is going to show the replay of the game tonight at 11:10pm.
01-08-2026, 11:08 PM
(01-08-2026, 11:03 AM)burger Wrote:(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
Haase is what Jungian analytical psychologists would refer to as a "feeler." This manifested itself in small ways like his handwritten notes to recruits and his doing laundry for players when they were quarantined on Hawaii. I claim without irony that Haase may have been one of the most emotionally intelligent individuals to set foot on the Stanford campus in this millennium, which would lend some explanation for how he got the job and how he was able to hold on to it for so long. The pandemic pandemonium didn't hurt, either.
However, feelers are exceedingly rare in coaching. Upwards of 95% of revenue sport head coaches are thinkers, and for good reason. Haase's in-game coaching was wanting on logic. Eventually you have to win.
Within the great spectrum of thinkers there is variation, with Kyle Smith more toward the dividing line between thinkers and feelers and the likes of Sean Miller and Dan Hurley at the opposite far end. I would like to see Smith demonstrate that you don't have to be a fanatical, fearsome dark lord in order to win.
"When you compare the sorrows of real life to the pleasures of the imaginary one, you will never want to live again, only dream forever." -- Alexandre Dumas, The Count of Monte Cristo (1846)
(01-08-2026, 11:03 AM)burger Wrote:(01-08-2026, 10:25 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-08-2026, 09:56 AM)skip75 Wrote:(01-07-2026, 09:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The bad news:
Our NET ranking is 77, and that’s the one they use to pick at large teams for the tourney
Updated NET ranking following the win at VaTech is #69. Still not NCAA tourney-worthy, but moving in the right direction.
Anything sniffing last year's ranking (NET #80, KenPom #81), given on-paper net talent drain, is miracle work.
If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
Haase is what Jungian analytical psychologists would refer to as a "feeler." This manifested itself in small ways like his handwritten notes to recruits and his doing laundry for players when they were quarantined on Hawaii. I claim without irony that Haase may have been one of the most emotionally intelligent individuals to set foot on the Stanford campus in this millennium, which would lend some explanation for how he got the job and how he was able to hold on to it for so long. The pandemic pandemonium didn't hurt, either.
However, feelers are exceedingly rare in coaching. Upwards of 95% of revenue sport head coaches are thinkers, and for good reason. Haase's in-game coaching was wanting on logic. Eventually you have to win.
Within the great spectrum of thinkers there is variation, with Kyle Smith more toward the dividing line between thinkers and feelers and the likes of Sean Miller and Dan Hurley at the opposite far end. I would like to see Smith demonstrate that you don't have to be a fanatical, fearsome dark lord in order to win.
"When you compare the sorrows of real life to the pleasures of the imaginary one, you will never want to live again, only dream forever." -- Alexandre Dumas, The Count of Monte Cristo (1846)
01-09-2026, 07:59 AM
(01-08-2026, 11:08 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(01-08-2026, 11:03 AM)burger Wrote: If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
Haase is what Jungian analytical psychologists would refer to as a "feeler." This manifested itself in small ways like his handwritten notes to recruits and his doing laundry for players when they were quarantined on Hawaii. I claim without irony that Haase may have been one of the most emotionally intelligent individuals to set foot on the Stanford campus in this millennium, which would lend some explanation for how he got the job and how he was able to hold on to it for so long. The pandemic pandemonium didn't hurt, either.
However, feelers are exceedingly rare in coaching. Upwards of 95% of revenue sport head coaches are thinkers, and for good reason. Haase's in-game coaching was wanting on logic. Eventually you have to win.
Within the great spectrum of thinkers there is variation, with Kyle Smith more toward the dividing line between thinkers and feelers and the likes of Sean Miller and Dan Hurley at the opposite far end. I would like to see Smith demonstrate that you don't have to be a fanatical, fearsome dark lord in order to win.
It seems like half the time that they cut to Smith on the sideline during games, he's smiling or joking around with Jim Shaw. I don't know if that means he's a feeler or not, but he definitely doesn't seem like a dark lord.
(01-08-2026, 11:08 PM)Sam Leopold Wrote:(01-08-2026, 11:03 AM)burger Wrote: If there's one defining feature of the Haase years, it's that the team never seemed to play up to their talent level*. Several future NBA guys came through, and we never even sniffed the Tourney.
Small sample size, and who know how this year will play out, but under Smith, we seem to overperform. He seems to really get the maximum out of the roster. And so far that's mostly with a ragtag bunch of transfers and Haase leftovers. I'm very excited to see what Smith can do with a fantastic class of freshmen coming in next year.
*the other defining feature of the Haase year was a Stanford player dribbling into a thicket of defenders in the lane and getting a turnover
Haase is what Jungian analytical psychologists would refer to as a "feeler." This manifested itself in small ways like his handwritten notes to recruits and his doing laundry for players when they were quarantined on Hawaii. I claim without irony that Haase may have been one of the most emotionally intelligent individuals to set foot on the Stanford campus in this millennium, which would lend some explanation for how he got the job and how he was able to hold on to it for so long. The pandemic pandemonium didn't hurt, either.
However, feelers are exceedingly rare in coaching. Upwards of 95% of revenue sport head coaches are thinkers, and for good reason. Haase's in-game coaching was wanting on logic. Eventually you have to win.
Within the great spectrum of thinkers there is variation, with Kyle Smith more toward the dividing line between thinkers and feelers and the likes of Sean Miller and Dan Hurley at the opposite far end. I would like to see Smith demonstrate that you don't have to be a fanatical, fearsome dark lord in order to win.
It seems like half the time that they cut to Smith on the sideline during games, he's smiling or joking around with Jim Shaw. I don't know if that means he's a feeler or not, but he definitely doesn't seem like a dark lord.
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