[BobK]

Maybe this should be in one of two other treads but my thought. Please make corrections and of course additions as we get close to next week’s signing day

On scholarship at the end of November
81 per Langdude’s great chart
5 real graduates no eligible left
= 76
If we lose all 9 in the portal
= 67
Stratford retires
= 66 on scholarship today
We have 18 commits
So that’s 84.

Yes possible a player or two with eligibility doesn’t continue on scholarship and possible there is one and only one who doesn’t get accepted

[BobK]

Maybe this should be in one of two other treads but my thought. Please make corrections and of course additions as we get close to next week’s signing day

On scholarship at the end of November
81 per Langdude’s great chart
5 real graduates no eligible left
= 76
If we lose all 9 in the portal
= 67
Stratford retires
= 66 on scholarship today
We have 18 commits
So that’s 84.

Yes possible a player or two with eligibility doesn’t continue on scholarship and possible there is one and only one who doesn’t get accepted

[BobK]

Stewart in the portal thus we are at 83

[BobK]

Stewart in the portal thus we are at 83

[SamuelMcF]

EDIT: nevermind.

Still waiting on a few more transfers (and a couple more commits) though. Depending on NFL draft declarations we could end up above 80, which kind of feels like a miracle.

[SamuelMcF]

EDIT: nevermind.

Still waiting on a few more transfers (and a couple more commits) though. Depending on NFL draft declarations we could end up above 80, which kind of feels like a miracle.

[BostonCard]

Correct, 76 players with eligibility left
1 transfer confirmed (Powell)
1 Junior declared for the draft (Parkinson)
==========================
74 players could come back
20 incoming recruits
==========================
94 
10 players in the portal (Swann, Williams, Peek,  Eboh, Hattis, Hamilton, Harrington, Stewart, Richardson, Costello)
9 players not in the portal who haven't announced they are coming back (Pryts, Costello, Schaffer, Fox, Toner, Maddox, Speights, Butler, Parson)
1 possible medical redshirt (Stratford)
1 juniors who could declare to the NFL (Adebo)

In the worst case scenario, we have 53 returning players, and 20 players coming in, which would put us at 73(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, I think we will be at 84, 83 if you take the medical redshirt for granted.

BC

[BostonCard]

Correct, 76 players with eligibility left
1 transfer confirmed (Powell)
1 Junior declared for the draft (Parkinson)
==========================
74 players could come back
20 incoming recruits
==========================
94 
10 players in the portal (Swann, Williams, Peek,  Eboh, Hattis, Hamilton, Harrington, Stewart, Richardson, Costello)
9 players not in the portal who haven't announced they are coming back (Pryts, Costello, Schaffer, Fox, Toner, Maddox, Speights, Butler, Parson)
1 possible medical redshirt (Stratford)
1 juniors who could declare to the NFL (Adebo)

In the worst case scenario, we have 53 returning players, and 20 players coming in, which would put us at 73(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, I think we will be at 84, 83 if you take the medical redshirt for granted.

BC

[BobK]

Gilman commits we are at 84

[BobK]

Gilman commits we are at 84

[Mick]

In the worst case scenario, we have 53 returning players, and 18 players coming in, which would put us at 71(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

Are there any statistics available on what percentage of players who enter the portal actually end up transferring?  I know that last year, as of early May:

* 450 Power 5 had players entered the portal as of May 16, 2019.
* 240 were uncommitted.
* 40 were at least 4-star prospects.
* Only 92 (about 20%) of those 450 players had ended up at other Power 5 schools as of 5/16/19.

This was from an Athletic article.  Of the 240 who hadn't committed, a significant number were destined to be backups, and coaches didn't really wan to take on backups.  Some had been suspended or were disciplinary issues or had academic issues.  


https://theathletic.com/980278/2019/05/1...-football/
Another factor; coaches want to pull their scholies as soon as they enter the portal.  This includes Herm Edwards of ASU.

[Mick]

In the worst case scenario, we have 53 returning players, and 18 players coming in, which would put us at 71(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

Are there any statistics available on what percentage of players who enter the portal actually end up transferring?  I know that last year, as of early May:

* 450 Power 5 had players entered the portal as of May 16, 2019.
* 240 were uncommitted.
* 40 were at least 4-star prospects.
* Only 92 (about 20%) of those 450 players had ended up at other Power 5 schools as of 5/16/19.

This was from an Athletic article.  Of the 240 who hadn't committed, a significant number were destined to be backups, and coaches didn't really wan to take on backups.  Some had been suspended or were disciplinary issues or had academic issues.  


https://theathletic.com/980278/2019/05/1...-football/
Another factor; coaches want to pull their scholies as soon as they enter the portal.  This includes Herm Edwards of ASU.

[BostonCard]

Correct, 76 players with eligibility left
1 transfer confirmed (Powell)
9 players in the portal (Swann, Williams, Peek,  Eboh, Hattis, Hamilton, Harrington, Stewart, Richardson)
9 players not in the portal who haven't announced they are coming back (Pryts, Costello, Schaffer, Fox, Toner, Maddox, Speights, Butler, Parson)
1 possible medical redshirt (Stratford)
2 juniors who could declare to the NFL (Adebo, Parkinson) [edited to reflect Little coming back]

In the worst case scenario, we have 54 returning players, and 19 players coming in, which would put us at 73(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

BC

The current count is 76 players with eligibility remaining, minus one who has accepted a transfer out plus 20 recruits coming in including EJ Smith, so that gets us to 95.  That means we need at least 10 spots to materialize (perhaps a couple more if we have January signings).  With 9 in the portal and waiting to hear from 9 more academic seniors and 2 academic juniors, we will not have a problem, but it is more a question of optimizing who comes back and who doesn't.

BC

[BostonCard]

Correct, 76 players with eligibility left
1 transfer confirmed (Powell)
9 players in the portal (Swann, Williams, Peek,  Eboh, Hattis, Hamilton, Harrington, Stewart, Richardson)
9 players not in the portal who haven't announced they are coming back (Pryts, Costello, Schaffer, Fox, Toner, Maddox, Speights, Butler, Parson)
1 possible medical redshirt (Stratford)
2 juniors who could declare to the NFL (Adebo, Parkinson) [edited to reflect Little coming back]

In the worst case scenario, we have 54 returning players, and 19 players coming in, which would put us at 73(!).  In the best case, not everyone in the portal actually transfers, and Swann, Williams, Hattis, and Hamilton are back, and a couple players not in the portal yet who are not anticipated to contribute don't come back and we get a couple of late-breaking commits so that the class is more like 20-21.

BC

The current count is 76 players with eligibility remaining, minus one who has accepted a transfer out plus 20 recruits coming in including EJ Smith, so that gets us to 95.  That means we need at least 10 spots to materialize (perhaps a couple more if we have January signings).  With 9 in the portal and waiting to hear from 9 more academic seniors and 2 academic juniors, we will not have a problem, but it is more a question of optimizing who comes back and who doesn't.

BC

[BobK]

Or with Smith presently at 85

[BobK]

Or with Smith presently at 85

[BostonCard]

Or with Smith presently at 85

It depends on how you count players in the portal.  If you assume they are all gone, then we are at 85 (I thought 86).  If you don't count them as gone until they've signed with another school, we are at 95 (or 94). 

BC

[BostonCard]

Or with Smith presently at 85

It depends on how you count players in the portal.  If you assume they are all gone, then we are at 85 (I thought 86).  If you don't count them as gone until they've signed with another school, we are at 95 (or 94). 

BC

[BobK]

Ok BC fair enough. But I’ll assume gone.
Plus we need the space
I did count on Stratford retiring

[BobK]

Ok BC fair enough. But I’ll assume gone.
Plus we need the space
I did count on Stratford retiring

[BostonCard]

Edited to add Costello to the portal.  If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, we will be at exactly 85.

BC

[BostonCard]

Edited to add Costello to the portal.  If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, we will be at exactly 85.

BC

[82lsju]

Edited to add Costello to the portal.  If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, we will be at exactly 85.

BC

Does the 85 include Tanner McKee?

[82lsju]

Edited to add Costello to the portal.  If everyone in the portal transfers and we lose no one else, we will be at exactly 85.

BC

Does the 85 include Tanner McKee?

[BobK]

I have 84 with McKee less Stratford and Costello leaving
Or agree with BC with Stratford

[BobK]

I have 84 with McKee less Stratford and Costello leaving
Or agree with BC with Stratford

[BobK]

Now at 83 with Park leaving for the draft

[BobK]

Now at 83 with Park leaving for the draft

[82lsju]

Now at 83 with Park leaving for the draft

the announcement

https://gostanford.com/news/2019/12/20/f...lares.aspx

[82lsju]

Now at 83 with Park leaving for the draft

the announcement

https://gostanford.com/news/2019/12/20/f...lares.aspx

[BobK]

Wanting to agree with BC so I don’t have Stratford retiring and with Harrington coming back or staying we are at

85

[BobK]

Wanting to agree with BC so I don’t have Stratford retiring and with Harrington coming back or staying we are at

85

[BobK]

With Pryts in the portal now at

84

[BobK]

With Pryts in the portal now at

84

[SamuelMcF]

Speights in the portal makes 83.

We're expecting 1 more new c/o '20 signee in Feb, by the way. (I'm assuming your 20 counts Lance Keneley, who is committed but not signed.)

[SamuelMcF]

Speights in the portal makes 83.

We're expecting 1 more new c/o '20 signee in Feb, by the way. (I'm assuming your 20 counts Lance Keneley, who is committed but not signed.)

[BobK]

I do count Keneley. Sign two we hope in February and that both commit at the Big Visit. One of the two will go on a mission

[BobK]

I do count Keneley. Sign two we hope in February and that both commit at the Big Visit. One of the two will go on a mission

[BostonCard]

I have a feeling that not everyone in the portal will grad transfer.

BC

[BostonCard]

I have a feeling that not everyone in the portal will grad transfer.

BC