(11-24-2022, 02:42 PM)chimera Wrote:Four. The odds are high we will beat them if we play them again. I think we made some correctable mistakes, and we will improve more over the course of the year than they will. Betts will be more of a factor next time. We have shown 1) we can control Boston, 2) we have a legit point guard, and 3) we can control Cooke. 4) Jones will not have another game like the last, she and Tara will learn from it.(11-24-2022, 01:40 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-23-2022, 02:21 PM)MV72018 Wrote:(11-23-2022, 12:37 PM)martyup Wrote:(11-22-2022, 10:10 PM)Hulk01 Wrote: This is a terrific Stanford team. To beat South Carolina, we need some players to emerge.
I dunno. We were up 4 with 16 seconds left, and had a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th Q. I'd say that if we played them again today, we would have a better than 50% chance of winning.
That makes one of us who believe that.
I'll make it two.
Three
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(11-24-2022, 02:42 PM)chimera Wrote:Four. The odds are high we will beat them if we play them again. I think we made some correctable mistakes, and we will improve more over the course of the year than they will. Betts will be more of a factor next time. We have shown 1) we can control Boston, 2) we have a legit point guard, and 3) we can control Cooke. 4) Jones will not have another game like the last, she and Tara will learn from it.(11-24-2022, 01:40 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-23-2022, 02:21 PM)MV72018 Wrote:(11-23-2022, 12:37 PM)martyup Wrote:(11-22-2022, 10:10 PM)Hulk01 Wrote: This is a terrific Stanford team. To beat South Carolina, we need some players to emerge.
I dunno. We were up 4 with 16 seconds left, and had a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th Q. I'd say that if we played them again today, we would have a better than 50% chance of winning.
That makes one of us who believe that.
I'll make it two.
Three
11-24-2022, 03:24 PM
(11-24-2022, 02:58 PM)81alum Wrote:(11-24-2022, 02:42 PM)chimera Wrote:Four. The odds are high we will beat them if we play them again. I think we made some correctable mistakes, and we will improve more over the course of the year than they will. Betts will be more of a factor next time. We have shown 1) we can control Boston, 2) we have a legit point guard, and 3) we can control Cooke. 4) Jones will not have another game like the last, she and Tara will learn from it.(11-24-2022, 01:40 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-23-2022, 02:21 PM)MV72018 Wrote:(11-23-2022, 12:37 PM)martyup Wrote: I dunno. We were up 4 with 16 seconds left, and had a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th Q. I'd say that if we played them again today, we would have a better than 50% chance of winning.
That makes one of us who believe that.
I'll make it two.
Three
Five. I continue to feel that over the season, Stanford will grow stronger more than S Carolina will.
(11-24-2022, 02:58 PM)81alum Wrote:(11-24-2022, 02:42 PM)chimera Wrote:Four. The odds are high we will beat them if we play them again. I think we made some correctable mistakes, and we will improve more over the course of the year than they will. Betts will be more of a factor next time. We have shown 1) we can control Boston, 2) we have a legit point guard, and 3) we can control Cooke. 4) Jones will not have another game like the last, she and Tara will learn from it.(11-24-2022, 01:40 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-23-2022, 02:21 PM)MV72018 Wrote:(11-23-2022, 12:37 PM)martyup Wrote: I dunno. We were up 4 with 16 seconds left, and had a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th Q. I'd say that if we played them again today, we would have a better than 50% chance of winning.
That makes one of us who believe that.
I'll make it two.
Three
Five. I continue to feel that over the season, Stanford will grow stronger more than S Carolina will.
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11-29-2022, 05:19 PM
UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
11-29-2022, 05:33 PM
(11-29-2022, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
I suspect Tara is watching this game closely, scouting UCLA to see what they do against SCAR that Stanford did or didn't
(11-29-2022, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
I suspect Tara is watching this game closely, scouting UCLA to see what they do against SCAR that Stanford did or didn't
11-29-2022, 05:40 PM
(11-29-2022, 05:33 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(11-29-2022, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
I suspect Tara is watching this game closely, scouting UCLA to see what they do against SCAR that Stanford did or didn't
If she isn't, she's negligent.
(11-29-2022, 05:33 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(11-29-2022, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
I suspect Tara is watching this game closely, scouting UCLA to see what they do against SCAR that Stanford did or didn't
If she isn't, she's negligent.
11-29-2022, 05:58 PM
(11-29-2022, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: UCLA looking pretty good against South Carolina in the first four minutes. 8-0 run. UCLA looks better running down the court. Probably won't last.
After first quarter UCLA up 16-13.
If UCLA can hang on, expect Team ESPN aka UConn to take over the #1 spot.
11-29-2022, 06:37 PM
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It's now 47 all at the end of 3. Aliyah Boston with only 1 foul and has already played 25 minutes (only 4 fewer minutes than she played in total vs Stanford, including overtime).
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It's now 47 all at the end of 3. Aliyah Boston with only 1 foul and has already played 25 minutes (only 4 fewer minutes than she played in total vs Stanford, including overtime).
11-29-2022, 07:00 PM
The UCLA/South Carolina game had something in common with our game. UCLA led most of the game, then South Carolina clamped down defensively in the fourth quarter, and UCLA made some critical mistakes toward the end. South Carolina wore down its opponents, perhaps both physically and psychologically, and only took the lead toward the end of each game.
The UCLA/South Carolina game had something in common with our game. UCLA led most of the game, then South Carolina clamped down defensively in the fourth quarter, and UCLA made some critical mistakes toward the end. South Carolina wore down its opponents, perhaps both physically and psychologically, and only took the lead toward the end of each game.
11-29-2022, 07:15 PM
South Carolina has a bonus to fans if the opponent misses multiple free throws.
What an example of sportsmanship!
What an example of sportsmanship!
SCAR 73, UCLA 64 -- but game much closer than that. It would have been a wider margin if SCAR had hit threes -- were 1-14, much worse than they did against Stanford. And 15!! blocks for SCAR. Only 6 points from the bench for UCLA.
That's seriously tacky!
(11-29-2022, 07:15 PM)M T Wrote: South Carolina has a bonus to fans if the opponent misses multiple free throws.
What an example of sportsmanship!
That's seriously tacky!
SCAR 73, UCLA 64 -- but game much closer than that. It would have been a wider margin if SCAR had hit threes -- were 1-14, much worse than they did against Stanford. And 15!! blocks for SCAR. Only 6 points from the bench for UCLA.
That's seriously tacky!
(11-29-2022, 07:15 PM)M T Wrote: South Carolina has a bonus to fans if the opponent misses multiple free throws.
What an example of sportsmanship!
That's seriously tacky!
11-29-2022, 07:36 PM
UCLA was called for a bit more than 50% more fouls than the home team (but that includes end-of-game fouls). I didn't realize the game was on until late in the 4th just before Kiki Rice got called for 3 fouls (1 technical, 2 personal) within 5 seconds. (The first call was legit as was the technical, but I didn't see a foul on her for the 3rd but that ref is good.) That was a 5 point swing, from down 4 with 1:13 to go to down 9.
Ouch.
Ouch.
UCLA was called for a bit more than 50% more fouls than the home team (but that includes end-of-game fouls). I didn't realize the game was on until late in the 4th just before Kiki Rice got called for 3 fouls (1 technical, 2 personal) within 5 seconds. (The first call was legit as was the technical, but I didn't see a foul on her for the 3rd but that ref is good.) That was a 5 point swing, from down 4 with 1:13 to go to down 9.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Boston did another elbow to the face move, like the one that caused Ashten to miss one game. She was caught this time.
UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.
UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
Boston did another elbow to the face move, like the one that caused Ashten to miss one game. She was caught this time.
UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.
UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-29-2022, 07:58 PM
(11-29-2022, 07:18 PM)WBB fan Wrote:Chick-fil-A promotion at South Carolina(11-29-2022, 07:15 PM)M T Wrote: South Carolina has a bonus to fans if the opponent misses multiple free throws.
What an example of sportsmanship!
That's seriously tacky!
Quote:Just like previous seasons, if an opposing player misses both free throws during the fourth quarter of a women’s home game or during the last eight minutes of a men’s home game, fans receive a free Chick-fil-A Sandwich.
I was wondering why the cheerleaders were holding up Chick-fil-A signs to the crowd during a foul shot.
(11-29-2022, 07:18 PM)WBB fan Wrote:Chick-fil-A promotion at South Carolina(11-29-2022, 07:15 PM)M T Wrote: South Carolina has a bonus to fans if the opponent misses multiple free throws.
What an example of sportsmanship!
That's seriously tacky!
Quote:Just like previous seasons, if an opposing player misses both free throws during the fourth quarter of a women’s home game or during the last eight minutes of a men’s home game, fans receive a free Chick-fil-A Sandwich.
I was wondering why the cheerleaders were holding up Chick-fil-A signs to the crowd during a foul shot.
11-29-2022, 08:05 PM
Kiki Rice really is good.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-29-2022, 11:31 PM
Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
11-30-2022, 07:21 AM
(11-29-2022, 11:31 PM)treetop11 Wrote: Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Wonder if Tara would agree with that sentiment toward Kiki Rice.
(11-29-2022, 11:31 PM)treetop11 Wrote: Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Wonder if Tara would agree with that sentiment toward Kiki Rice.
(11-29-2022, 11:31 PM)treetop11 Wrote: Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Really, I think you are misinformed? Rice is tremendously talented. She's only a freshman and will learn with experience and get better. Her potential is very high. She's averaging over 3 assists per game and primarily plays on the wing, not as the lead point guard. Lepolo is great and I'm so thankful she's on our team. I think UCLA feels the same way about Rice who has a tremendous future.
Can we have an Other Pac12 WBB game thread to discuss Pac12 teams and their performances instead of making a new one each time.
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(11-29-2022, 11:31 PM)treetop11 Wrote: Watched the last quarter of game between Ucla and So Carolina. Ucla was tied or exchanging the lead until about halfway or so into the 4th, then fell apart. Big reason they fell apart was Kiki Rice. Seeing her, I'm glad we didn't get her and happy that we have Lepolo instead. Rie scoreed 16 points (no 3 pointers) BUT has zero assists. That's indicative of a ball hog. Worse, when it was a 4 pt game, she committed a foul, got mad and slammed the ball on the court and got a technical. SC made 4 FTs in a row for an 8 pt lead and Ucla didn't get close again. Rie fouled out shortly thereafter. She looked to me to be a selfish and immature player, someone with an inflated ego. I was not impressed. Lepolo OTOH runs our offense, has lots of assists, scores enough, and I think she's faster than Rice.
Ucla seemed to be using 4 guards a lot and then may have thrown off SC. They packed it in like we did and doubled Boston, but had more quicker guards to defend than we did agst SC. Ucla does have some tall players but going small they could present troiuble. Our bigs will do well and if they pack it in, we have 3 point shooters who will do damage. SC was horrible from 3 tonight.
Osbourne looked real good, but neither team looked as sharp or in sync as our game with SC. Both teams looked pretty average.
Really, I think you are misinformed? Rice is tremendously talented. She's only a freshman and will learn with experience and get better. Her potential is very high. She's averaging over 3 assists per game and primarily plays on the wing, not as the lead point guard. Lepolo is great and I'm so thankful she's on our team. I think UCLA feels the same way about Rice who has a tremendous future.
Can we have an Other Pac12 WBB game thread to discuss Pac12 teams and their performances instead of making a new one each time.
(11-29-2022, 07:50 PM)martyup Wrote: UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.They seem to have copied our strategy. And like us, the strategy worked for 3 quarters.
(11-30-2022, 08:29 AM)Card10Fan Wrote: Can we have an Other Pac12 WBB game thread to discuss Pac12 teams and their performances instead of making a new one each time.Why not start a thread for "WBB: Other Pac 12 Teams"?
I will create a new thread for each of our own games, as I have for the last decade, but having a separate place to discuss the rest of the Pac 12 makes sense.
(11-29-2022, 07:50 PM)martyup Wrote: UCLA's strategy was to clog the paint and dare SC to make outside shots. It worked pretty well for most of the game. I doubt that will work against us because we can shoot the 3 pretty well.They seem to have copied our strategy. And like us, the strategy worked for 3 quarters.
(11-30-2022, 08:29 AM)Card10Fan Wrote: Can we have an Other Pac12 WBB game thread to discuss Pac12 teams and their performances instead of making a new one each time.Why not start a thread for "WBB: Other Pac 12 Teams"?
I will create a new thread for each of our own games, as I have for the last decade, but having a separate place to discuss the rest of the Pac 12 makes sense.
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