[teejers1]

Couldn't disagree more strongly. The only thing worse than a coach who makes bad decisions is a coach who doesn't acknowledge and learn from them because they will make the same bad decisions the next time too.

I don't actually care if the coach acknowledges his bad decisions. Might be nice in terms of perception, but the only thing that matters is whether the coach gets better over time. Lots of the decisions people on sports boards call "bad" are matters of opinion. Naturally, those who assert the decision was "bad" are always right, at least in their own mind.

I've seen so many excuses like your post, Goose, about Shaw's play calling decisions being just a matter of opinion.
So let me ask you point blank:  do you think Shaw has a good grasp of game situations, control of the offense (in terms of what is/is not working), and a good implementation of his offense?  I think he is below average on all of it - way too many many examples of poor in-game decisions, indecisiveness, and no sense of going with what his eyes tell him.  It's incredible.  And he is now into his 10th season as the man calling plays for Stanford's offenses, and the raw numbers (and the particulars) reveal mediocrity on that front. 

I truly am astounded by people who continue to defend him.  And lex, you never responded to the "it's okay to pass on 2nd and 3 at Oregon 33, if you're willing to run it on third and fourth down because you anticipate going for it on fourth down, if necessary."  Shaw reveals this myopia repeatedly, and no one calls him on it.

You know like:  "Hey coach, when you had second and 3 at Oregon's 33 yard line, were you thinking that you were in four-down territory?"  (Obviously, he cannot say "yes," given what he called - but it at least presents the issue to him).  And then follow up with "Why not?"

[teejers1]

Couldn't disagree more strongly. The only thing worse than a coach who makes bad decisions is a coach who doesn't acknowledge and learn from them because they will make the same bad decisions the next time too.

I don't actually care if the coach acknowledges his bad decisions. Might be nice in terms of perception, but the only thing that matters is whether the coach gets better over time. Lots of the decisions people on sports boards call "bad" are matters of opinion. Naturally, those who assert the decision was "bad" are always right, at least in their own mind.

I've seen so many excuses like your post, Goose, about Shaw's play calling decisions being just a matter of opinion.
So let me ask you point blank:  do you think Shaw has a good grasp of game situations, control of the offense (in terms of what is/is not working), and a good implementation of his offense?  I think he is below average on all of it - way too many many examples of poor in-game decisions, indecisiveness, and no sense of going with what his eyes tell him.  It's incredible.  And he is now into his 10th season as the man calling plays for Stanford's offenses, and the raw numbers (and the particulars) reveal mediocrity on that front. 

I truly am astounded by people who continue to defend him.  And lex, you never responded to the "it's okay to pass on 2nd and 3 at Oregon 33, if you're willing to run it on third and fourth down because you anticipate going for it on fourth down, if necessary."  Shaw reveals this myopia repeatedly, and no one calls him on it.

You know like:  "Hey coach, when you had second and 3 at Oregon's 33 yard line, were you thinking that you were in four-down territory?"  (Obviously, he cannot say "yes," given what he called - but it at least presents the issue to him).  And then follow up with "Why not?"