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Muir's not gonna fire Shaw. Get over it.

Best we can hope for is Shaw finally firing some of his staff

I think you underestimate the voice of alums and the importance of Big Game.

At least after 2019 there was a sense that the season was an aberration — they were fresh off a conference championship game and indeed the team bounced back in 2020.

My preference, and this will sound odd to you until you wait for it, but my preference would be to keep Shaw for one more year — but only to fire Muir and give a new AD an opportunity to land and hire/fire as needed.

Losing a season is bad, losing The Axe is very bad, but not being competitive in 4+ games including Big Game is pretty close to irredeemable.

I agree with you Muir needs to be fired more than Shaw, but for entirely different reasons.

If Shaw does some much-needed housecleaning, he buys himself at least a couple years. If he's now willing to clean house, then Muir should fire him but he won't.

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Muir's not gonna fire Shaw. Get over it.

Best we can hope for is Shaw finally firing some of his staff

I think you underestimate the voice of alums and the importance of Big Game.

At least after 2019 there was a sense that the season was an aberration — they were fresh off a conference championship game and indeed the team bounced back in 2020.

My preference, and this will sound odd to you until you wait for it, but my preference would be to keep Shaw for one more year — but only to fire Muir and give a new AD an opportunity to land and hire/fire as needed.

Losing a season is bad, losing The Axe is very bad, but not being competitive in 4+ games including Big Game is pretty close to irredeemable.

I agree with you Muir needs to be fired more than Shaw, but for entirely different reasons.

If Shaw does some much-needed housecleaning, he buys himself at least a couple years. If he's now willing to clean house, then Muir should fire him but he won't.