[teejers1]

And it's not just Reid, as someone (SaMcF?) pointed out.  But let's take Reid - if Stanford had a snowball's chance of going to the Rose Bowl (or better) next season, do you think Reid and his young wife decide on Utah?

Yes, it was Sam McFadden, and that’s why his argument was 10x better than yours.  The argument that there have been a half-dozen transfers of players with eligibility remaining who would have started had they remained at Stanford leaving to start at other power-5 conference teams is much more indicative of a possible systemic problem at Stanford that potentially is due to the coach than taking a single situation for which there are a number of plausible alternative explanations and torturing it into the defining example.  Sometimes I think you deliberately pick weak anecdotes just to troll other people on the board.

BC

Just to be clear.  The talk was Reid.  I used him as springboard to comment on general departure of still-eligible players (whom I was aware of just from being a fan, even if I could not remember all the names and where they ended up).  This was not a case of taking one player and using that as THE support for the proposition.  I (perhaps wrongly) assumed that other fans here were aware of the many players who have left in last 5-8 years left to play elsewhere - some we missed; some we did not.  The former is cause for concern; the latter a function of the portal and the need to make room.  (Only really in play this upcoming season, given unused scholies in recent years).

[teejers1]

And it's not just Reid, as someone (SaMcF?) pointed out.  But let's take Reid - if Stanford had a snowball's chance of going to the Rose Bowl (or better) next season, do you think Reid and his young wife decide on Utah?

Yes, it was Sam McFadden, and that’s why his argument was 10x better than yours.  The argument that there have been a half-dozen transfers of players with eligibility remaining who would have started had they remained at Stanford leaving to start at other power-5 conference teams is much more indicative of a possible systemic problem at Stanford that potentially is due to the coach than taking a single situation for which there are a number of plausible alternative explanations and torturing it into the defining example.  Sometimes I think you deliberately pick weak anecdotes just to troll other people on the board.

BC

Just to be clear.  The talk was Reid.  I used him as springboard to comment on general departure of still-eligible players (whom I was aware of just from being a fan, even if I could not remember all the names and where they ended up).  This was not a case of taking one player and using that as THE support for the proposition.  I (perhaps wrongly) assumed that other fans here were aware of the many players who have left in last 5-8 years left to play elsewhere - some we missed; some we did not.  The former is cause for concern; the latter a function of the portal and the need to make room.  (Only really in play this upcoming season, given unused scholies in recent years).