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Yep. Bobbbb dined on it after I emailed him. Theder played for Western Michigan in 1961. He was also the starting QB in '60. He was an assistant for Ralston at Stanford and was in limbo while Stanford administrators dawdled in disarray trying to decide between Mike White and Christiansen. White was given an ultimatum by Cal, sign today or no dice so he signed. He brought Theder and Max McCartney to Berkeley. And also Muncie and Joe DeRosa who would have stayed with Stanford and top recruiter White. Chris could have used Muncie and our old friend ILB wouldn't have Chuck's cleat mark on his chest.

[Phogge]

Yep. Bobbbb dined on it after I emailed him. Theder played for Western Michigan in 1961. He was also the starting QB in '60. He was an assistant for Ralston at Stanford and was in limbo while Stanford administrators dawdled in disarray trying to decide between Mike White and Christiansen. White was given an ultimatum by Cal, sign today or no dice so he signed. He brought Theder and Max McCartney to Berkeley. And also Muncie and Joe DeRosa who would have stayed with Stanford and top recruiter White. Chris could have used Muncie and our old friend ILB wouldn't have Chuck's cleat mark on his chest.