[gailtate]

I kept my tickets through IdiotFace and HeWhoMustNotBeNamed. This is nowhere near as bad as those 5 years. There are better days ahead, one way or another.

"This is nowhere near as bad as those 5 years."  Oh, no? I beg to differ. This isn't about attendance numbers, this is about performance. Or lack thereof. I respectfully submit that "This", defined as the 2019 season, last season and the dismal prospects of the upcoming one, is not only "as bad", it is worse. It is historically bad. Categorically bad. Hang-down-your-head-Tom Dooley-bad. The Mother of All Nadirs. As for said attendance, numbers in the low-teens is a distinct possibility in 2022 as the weather turns and the losses pile up.  Just you wait, Henry Higgins, just you wait.

Stanford football 2002-2006: 16-40 overall (.285), 10-31 Pac-12 (.243)
Stanford football 2019 & 2021: 7-17 (.291), 5-13 in Pac-12 (.278)

So the era of which I speak was a lot like 2019 & 2020, but it last FIVE STINKIN YEARS. So yeah, it was worse than what we are dealing with now.

I can't imagine that three more seasons with 4 or fewer wins would be tolerated, even by a spineless storeminder like Muir.

"...it was worse than what we are dealing with now..."  Nope, hairsplitting not allowed. Here's why: the ham-handed losses sustained after the 2018 scoop-and-score Oregon game (despite the Sun Bowl win), combined with mis-managed recruitment when the process was changing, plus the dog-vomit 2019 season and the disaster of post-pandemic (mostly) 2021 was the prelude to the utter hopelessness we're looking at today compared to 2007 when we got an epic infusion of hope for the football program. Today there is no such hope. It's in shorter supply than baby formula. We're stuck with Weekends at Bernie's for the duration of Shaw: several more years of trials and tribulations. Don't bask in marginal superiority over BuddyWlat-ism. It's a low bar.

[gailtate]

I kept my tickets through IdiotFace and HeWhoMustNotBeNamed. This is nowhere near as bad as those 5 years. There are better days ahead, one way or another.

"This is nowhere near as bad as those 5 years."  Oh, no? I beg to differ. This isn't about attendance numbers, this is about performance. Or lack thereof. I respectfully submit that "This", defined as the 2019 season, last season and the dismal prospects of the upcoming one, is not only "as bad", it is worse. It is historically bad. Categorically bad. Hang-down-your-head-Tom Dooley-bad. The Mother of All Nadirs. As for said attendance, numbers in the low-teens is a distinct possibility in 2022 as the weather turns and the losses pile up.  Just you wait, Henry Higgins, just you wait.

Stanford football 2002-2006: 16-40 overall (.285), 10-31 Pac-12 (.243)
Stanford football 2019 & 2021: 7-17 (.291), 5-13 in Pac-12 (.278)

So the era of which I speak was a lot like 2019 & 2020, but it last FIVE STINKIN YEARS. So yeah, it was worse than what we are dealing with now.

I can't imagine that three more seasons with 4 or fewer wins would be tolerated, even by a spineless storeminder like Muir.

"...it was worse than what we are dealing with now..."  Nope, hairsplitting not allowed. Here's why: the ham-handed losses sustained after the 2018 scoop-and-score Oregon game (despite the Sun Bowl win), combined with mis-managed recruitment when the process was changing, plus the dog-vomit 2019 season and the disaster of post-pandemic (mostly) 2021 was the prelude to the utter hopelessness we're looking at today compared to 2007 when we got an epic infusion of hope for the football program. Today there is no such hope. It's in shorter supply than baby formula. We're stuck with Weekends at Bernie's for the duration of Shaw: several more years of trials and tribulations. Don't bask in marginal superiority over BuddyWlat-ism. It's a low bar.