[Mick]

There are others on this board who understand the innerworkings of Stanford better than me, but I feel fairly confident that I understand them better than some writer from DraftKings or Fan Nation. I would be shocked if there is any serious internal momentum towards firing Shaw. I sense it would take several more years of abject futility before it was even a remote possibility.

I have virtually no insight or understanding of the innerworkings of Stanford. However, I am willing to bet that Shaw himself has no stomach for 2 and 3 win seasons. I obviously don't know what his threshold is, but IMHO he is approaching it. If the OL doesn't improve after him going through several OL coaches, I expect him to decide "it can be done" and resign. Maybe at the end of this year and certainly at the end of next year if things get no better. He is a proud man and losing is eroding his "legacy". He doesn't need the money. Just my opinion.

I’m curious what you’ve seen that indicates Shaw is close to reaching his breaking point? He kicked it into cruise control years ago (long before NIL and the transfer portal). You can see it from our effort on the recruiting trail. He’s going to cash those $9 million checks as long as he can. Throw in the fact that he’s incredibly stubborn and I don’t see him admitting that things have reached the point of no return. Complacency and stubbornness are a lethal combination.

Enough about the $9M paychecks that's completely inaccurate. As for him admitting things, he's not going to do that publicly. He's not stupid, and he does have pride. I hope he does resign after this season, but I think the chances of that happening are even lower than Muir growing a spine and firing him.

I hope that the powers that be had a discussion with Muir six months to a year ago about the football program's inexorable downward progress and secured commitments from Muir that steps would be taken as a contingency plan. Because the "Break Glass in Case of Emergency" is really ready right about now.

[Mick]

There are others on this board who understand the innerworkings of Stanford better than me, but I feel fairly confident that I understand them better than some writer from DraftKings or Fan Nation. I would be shocked if there is any serious internal momentum towards firing Shaw. I sense it would take several more years of abject futility before it was even a remote possibility.

I have virtually no insight or understanding of the innerworkings of Stanford. However, I am willing to bet that Shaw himself has no stomach for 2 and 3 win seasons. I obviously don't know what his threshold is, but IMHO he is approaching it. If the OL doesn't improve after him going through several OL coaches, I expect him to decide "it can be done" and resign. Maybe at the end of this year and certainly at the end of next year if things get no better. He is a proud man and losing is eroding his "legacy". He doesn't need the money. Just my opinion.

I’m curious what you’ve seen that indicates Shaw is close to reaching his breaking point? He kicked it into cruise control years ago (long before NIL and the transfer portal). You can see it from our effort on the recruiting trail. He’s going to cash those $9 million checks as long as he can. Throw in the fact that he’s incredibly stubborn and I don’t see him admitting that things have reached the point of no return. Complacency and stubbornness are a lethal combination.

Enough about the $9M paychecks that's completely inaccurate. As for him admitting things, he's not going to do that publicly. He's not stupid, and he does have pride. I hope he does resign after this season, but I think the chances of that happening are even lower than Muir growing a spine and firing him.

I hope that the powers that be had a discussion with Muir six months to a year ago about the football program's inexorable downward progress and secured commitments from Muir that steps would be taken as a contingency plan. Because the "Break Glass in Case of Emergency" is really ready right about now.