[Goose]

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.o...&cap=swipe

This makes sense.  It never made sense for the Russians to sabotage the pipeline, as their leverage came from being able to turn the tap on or off at will, and Hersch’ allegation that it was the Us made no sense either, as it risked alienating a much needed partner for little benefit; Russia’s weaponization of gas made it so that Germany would finally wean itself from Russian gas anyway.  A Ukrainian government effort was probably too risky, but Ukrainian sympathizers, which gave the Ukrainian government plausible deniability makes sense, if they have the capability.  I guess they did.

BC

As I pointed out in my post of Oct 22 (https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...71&page=98), any competent underwater construction company has the capability.  Ukraine always was the "most probable" actor, although unless and until we can have an exact money trail, we won't actually know. The opportunities for a "false flag" operation here are just too great to assume the people who "did the work" actually knew who was sponsoring the activity. Some guy with lots of cash undoubtedly would be the true answer. If it was the Ukrainian government, they probably have the capability to make that money trail almost impossible to follow. Other actors maybe are not so careful. Without the money trail, we really won't ever know who actually "did it". It might even be Ukrainian sympathizers who thought they were acting at the behest of the Ukrainian government but in fact were not.

[Goose]

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.o...&cap=swipe

This makes sense.  It never made sense for the Russians to sabotage the pipeline, as their leverage came from being able to turn the tap on or off at will, and Hersch’ allegation that it was the Us made no sense either, as it risked alienating a much needed partner for little benefit; Russia’s weaponization of gas made it so that Germany would finally wean itself from Russian gas anyway.  A Ukrainian government effort was probably too risky, but Ukrainian sympathizers, which gave the Ukrainian government plausible deniability makes sense, if they have the capability.  I guess they did.

BC

As I pointed out in my post of Oct 22 (https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...71&page=98), any competent underwater construction company has the capability.  Ukraine always was the "most probable" actor, although unless and until we can have an exact money trail, we won't actually know. The opportunities for a "false flag" operation here are just too great to assume the people who "did the work" actually knew who was sponsoring the activity. Some guy with lots of cash undoubtedly would be the true answer. If it was the Ukrainian government, they probably have the capability to make that money trail almost impossible to follow. Other actors maybe are not so careful. Without the money trail, we really won't ever know who actually "did it". It might even be Ukrainian sympathizers who thought they were acting at the behest of the Ukrainian government but in fact were not.