[Goose]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/frontline-ukr...33708.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-futu...58520.html

Some other peoples thinking on the subject. The first one basically says that Ukraine needs to be in NATO or they will always be fighting Russia. NATO is their "insurance policy". This thought is almost universal (and has been for years) in Ukraine, but it also scares the heck out of NATO military commanders.

The second one covers some of the same ground as my previous posts. Making offers that you don't really intend to/can't honor may result in other people doing stupid things. It doesn't make those things less stupid, but it does cast large doubts about the leadership that makes such offers.

[Goose]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/frontline-ukr...33708.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-futu...58520.html

Some other peoples thinking on the subject. The first one basically says that Ukraine needs to be in NATO or they will always be fighting Russia. NATO is their "insurance policy". This thought is almost universal (and has been for years) in Ukraine, but it also scares the heck out of NATO military commanders.

The second one covers some of the same ground as my previous posts. Making offers that you don't really intend to/can't honor may result in other people doing stupid things. It doesn't make those things less stupid, but it does cast large doubts about the leadership that makes such offers.