04-26-2024, 12:20 PM
(04-26-2024, 11:33 AM)GK3 Wrote: I would assume from your information, that you would not put any kind of expensive piece of equipment close enough to the enemies MLR that its little drones can find it. From what I have read they have a range of 5 to 20 Km. I don't know if those figures are one way or return. I would also assume that if you had decent cameras, including IR, and flew at night or dusk/dawn it would be very hard for the other side to hide much of what it is doing. Of course things change a bit if you are in heavy cover, which I think is limited in Ukraine.I would spread out any important pieces of equipment as much as practical and not leave them in one place very long if I can avoid it. The drones searching for targets don't just fly straight to the target, hit it, and fly back. They are often performing recon and fly a grid or some other pattern the operator "likes". They don't necessarily even know there are targets present. Thus a drone with a 20 km range probably can't search much at ranges beyond 5 km. It has to turn a lot :-).
Indeed you are correct, drones with cameras, especially IR cameras, can see a lot. It is very hard to hide anything, particularly things that are "bright" in infrared, like engines that have run recently or people in the open. The recon drone finds things and then armed drones know where to go directly to kill it. Moving things around helps because 1) the probability of it being found on any given recon mission isn't unity, and 2) the armed drones will go to the wrong place if the target moved. Obviously both sides try very hard to minimize the time between detection and ordinance on target, but that is never as easy as it sounds. This is especially true if the organizations doing the work are pretty "ad-hoc", as seems to be the case in Ukraine.
Cover in Ukraine varies a lot, based on what part of the country and how close you are to the rivers. In the south Kherson Oblast, there is virtually no cover from air observation anywhere. In areas near the rivers and marshes (of which there are many in the north east) there is some cover, and in many agricultural areas things are treeline to treeline across open fields. You can also have "cover" from ground observation that doesn't provide cover from the air.
