(04-29-2024, 10:30 AM)dabigv13 Wrote: I think you're reading too much into these statements because you have an axe to grind based on some preconceived notions. Every indication is that lots of aid was prepositioned and nothing was delaying any C17s.
I can't point you to an article that says x number of air defense missiles and y number of artillery shells have already been delivered, but similarly the article you link only talks generally about needing more aid, nothing specifically about the latest US aid that was sent. And of course any aid the US has delivered is not delivered directly to the front, it is delivered to western Ukraine, where it would presumably take some time to securely get to undermanned front positions that are organizing delaying actions and retreats under fire (a process that unfortunately has been ongoing since before the aid bill was passed.) In terms of public information, we do know for instance that Ukraine has received long range ATACMS even before being announced. And we have seen several more instances of its deployment in the days since the aid bill was announced.
The many months of delay in approving the aid was certainly a problem. There has been no publicly available information that I'm aware of to indicate any problematic delays of aid that has already been approved, it seems you are twisting the available reporting to conform to your assumptions.
I have been unable to find any article that says anything has yet been delivered. Nor anything that even inidicates certain items were already prepositioned and would be in Ukrainian hands very quickly. Governments like to be able to pat themselves on the back and show how well that planned and thought things out. The press releases are far too general to my way of thinking. If you were really going to have some sort of supplies in Ukranian hands within say 4 days after the President's signature, why not say so? You don't have to say what, although my guess is that the Russians have a very good idea what and how much of what is coming. Their intelligence service can be relatively competent. It is I think well known that artillery shells and antiaircraft weapons are the most needed items.
The government has had months to determine what stuff and how much stuff they are going to send. They should have had a good handle on what was going to be needed ASAP and then some effort made to preposition whatever that stuff is if possible.
