[Goose]

The problem is extremely complex and has existed for years in various forms. So is there any solution to the current problem without one of the two sides giving up?

I don't think there is any such solution. The real problem isn't that Iran wants to obtain nuclear weapons. The real problem is that Iran is dedicated to the idea Israel has no "right" to exist and must be destroyed by any means necessary. Nuclear weapons are a very important tool in accomplishing that destruction, but is only one tool of many Iran has used and will use in the future. Until Iran abandons that goal "for real" the problem will continue to exist.

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https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defens...cle-858937

Not an exactly "neutral" source, but I think it gives a more balanced view of the current state of the Iranian nuclear program. The fact is nobody knows. It is however more than a little disturbing that the US administration and to some degree the Netanyahu administration are asserting without proof that the Iranian program is "totally destroyed". Intelligence data is often ambiguous and limited in its coverage. There are recent examples of US administrations sorting through the information and selecting only that which supported its prejudices as "valid". It may be that is being carried to new heights. There is an "old saying" that each president gets the CIA director it wants but it usually takes a minimum of two years training.
 
Historically Israel and the Mossad have been more objective in their evaluations with a very few spectacular exceptions. Politics and confirmation bias does play in Israel too, just not as much. My current concern is that Netanyahu is well aware that his public will not accept an end to this conflict with Iran still possessing the ability to obtain a nuclear weapon relatively "soon", soon meaning in about the next 5 years minimum. This is a "one of a kind" opportunity for Israel that they elected to exploit. Their public expects them to deliver results to justify the risks and destruction involved. Failing that, Netanyahu's government will IMO certainly fall. Aggressive public relations asserting "adequate" destruction therefore may be forthcoming despite no real supporting facts.

Hopefully we will all get some insight into Iran's thinking going forward during the negotiations next week. If Iran still demands the right to enrich uranium I can't imagine Israel will continue with a cease fire. In theory the US supports the idea that enrichment should not be allowed, but we shall see. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk...e-updates/

[Goose]

The problem is extremely complex and has existed for years in various forms. So is there any solution to the current problem without one of the two sides giving up?

I don't think there is any such solution. The real problem isn't that Iran wants to obtain nuclear weapons. The real problem is that Iran is dedicated to the idea Israel has no "right" to exist and must be destroyed by any means necessary. Nuclear weapons are a very important tool in accomplishing that destruction, but is only one tool of many Iran has used and will use in the future. Until Iran abandons that goal "for real" the problem will continue to exist.

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https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defens...cle-858937

Not an exactly "neutral" source, but I think it gives a more balanced view of the current state of the Iranian nuclear program. The fact is nobody knows. It is however more than a little disturbing that the US administration and to some degree the Netanyahu administration are asserting without proof that the Iranian program is "totally destroyed". Intelligence data is often ambiguous and limited in its coverage. There are recent examples of US administrations sorting through the information and selecting only that which supported its prejudices as "valid". It may be that is being carried to new heights. There is an "old saying" that each president gets the CIA director it wants but it usually takes a minimum of two years training.
 
Historically Israel and the Mossad have been more objective in their evaluations with a very few spectacular exceptions. Politics and confirmation bias does play in Israel too, just not as much. My current concern is that Netanyahu is well aware that his public will not accept an end to this conflict with Iran still possessing the ability to obtain a nuclear weapon relatively "soon", soon meaning in about the next 5 years minimum. This is a "one of a kind" opportunity for Israel that they elected to exploit. Their public expects them to deliver results to justify the risks and destruction involved. Failing that, Netanyahu's government will IMO certainly fall. Aggressive public relations asserting "adequate" destruction therefore may be forthcoming despite no real supporting facts.

Hopefully we will all get some insight into Iran's thinking going forward during the negotiations next week. If Iran still demands the right to enrich uranium I can't imagine Israel will continue with a cease fire. In theory the US supports the idea that enrichment should not be allowed, but we shall see. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk...e-updates/