09-12-2025, 09:20 AM
(09-12-2025, 08:41 AM)Mick Wrote:(09-11-2025, 09:23 PM)GK3 Wrote:(09-11-2025, 12:33 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: https://x.com/MassDara/status/1965813427055816794
This thread has a map of all the drone flight paths the night of the incursions into Poland that I referred to in my earlier post.
From all I have read, the consensus is that this was a Russian effort to see what happens if we do this thing. Now they and Belaruss are conducting major war games and Poland is moving some 40,000 troops to the border. The Poles do not like the Russians.
I also saw an article that major Russian steel making firm is on the verge of going broke, their ability to provide the necessary steel for military weapons appears questionable. Hard to build a lot of military gear if your steel plants don't work.
Putin has some obvious problems. He now has to pay recruits a lot of money so they can go to the Ukraine and die. How long are the Russian youth willing to choose that option?
For what little its worth, I think Putin is running out of options, which is dangerous in itself. If you reach the point where you can't pay enough to recruits to be willing to go to Ukraine and risk death, and you are no longer getting the income from oil and gas you once were, what is left to you? The question that hasn't been answered is what will Russia do if it runs out of economic options.
I've been concerned about this for some time. Backing a nuclear power, led by a frightened aging pseudo-Socialist, into a corner with decreasing options is not a recipe for success.
Given Russia's existing resources and shrinking population, they could reap immense rewards if they re-integrated into the modern world. But given Russia's leadership, that's the rough equivalent of changing the gravitational constant of the universe, so to speak.
So what are we going to do about it? Send 200 drones "inadvertently" into Russian air space? Congregate 100 top Russian political leaders and oligarchs with 100 western leaders with firm commitments from 1/3rd of the Global 2000 companies to invest in Russia (and Ukraine) once they lay down arms? Or just wait for ICBMs to fly?
Your points are well taken. Unfortunately I think Putin has already backed himself into a corner he can't get out of unless he defeats Ukraine, and that seems unlikely at this point. I do not think an Afgahanstan revisted withdrawl would work for him at this point. He has the tiger by the tail and no way can he let go. So he is in it for the long haul, which may not be so long.
Economic reports show that the Russian steel industry is under extreme duress financially and production is declining. Hard to fight a modern war without steel.
At this point I don't think the question is so much about what we do about it, but what the Oligarchs do about it. One item I read said that 500 Oligarchs control 99 percent of Russias wealth. This would seem to me to mean that they can put a lot of pressure on Putin. Who could in answer to your question, launch a nuclear weapon at Ukraine as he dives out the window. Other question is whether the Russian Military would actually do it. There would be nothing in it for them to do so.
I see no sensible reason for Putin to attack NATO, meaning mostly Poland and the Baltics. The Poles might like the chance to show they can kick some Russian ***. The Poles have not forgotten the Katyn Forest Massacre.
Lets hope the end solution is sensible and avoids all this semi disasterous endings.
