[BillBradley]

With all due respect, since we know nothing of the conversations that are happening between player and coach, we have no idea what coach Paye is “telling” Eschmeyer, and speculating on messages, much less stating that they are plain for all to see is a fool’s errand.

Andrew Luck redshirted his freshman year.  One could have read into that as Coach Harbaugh telling Luck that he had more confidence in Tavita Pritchard than in Luck, and that there were lots of programs hungry to poach him.  Thankfully at the time there was plenty of communication that this was not the case and that some of the decision to redshirt came from Andrew and Oliver Luck.

Sure, Kate Paye may be committing a catastrophic error, and Eschmeyer may be in the transfer portal come the spring, and will thrive somewhere else.  In that case Kate Paye will ultimately be held accountable.  But until that actually happens, I suggest we all turn down the volume a little bit on the uninformed speculation as to what is being communicated to players and what a player will do.

Yeah, I know, this is a message board; I might as well be this guy:



BC

Pretty frustrated with that response. I never speculated on any conversations between coach and player. My post was all about the facts and what is happening, yes, right in front of us all. My point was that the coach is "telling" her things, not verbally, but as I said through her actions. By how she is (not) using her. If you disagree with any of those things I listed, I think that would be a great discussion. IMO, there is no speculation there at all. There's nothing uninformed. It's exactly the opposite of uninformed. It is what is happening. 

Your comparison to Andrew Luck being redshirted isn't apples to apples. You don't burn a year of eligibility with a redshirt year. If Alex was redshirting, there would be no issue. The big issue in this case is that we now live in a world of a transfer portal and NIL, which didn't exist when Luck played. We can't afford to lose her to the portal, and that is a big deal. 

I might be off, but I think sometimes you, and others, feel the need to try and calm down a discussion because maybe you think people are making inappropriate posts? If that's the case, in my defense, I try to be very measured when I post. I don't insult players, make petty comments, use profanity, etc. I feel the same about other posters, and reading discussions about topics like this is one of the things I value most about this board. I can go read bland AI generated content about the Stanford womens basketball team in tons of places, but it's this kind of stuff that's the most interesting.

Lastly, I'd like to point out that you yourself said "sure, she may be making a catastrophic error". Obviously you agree it's potentially a big issue. I don't get it then - it could be a big deal, but let's not talk about it? I don't get it.

[BillBradley]

With all due respect, since we know nothing of the conversations that are happening between player and coach, we have no idea what coach Paye is “telling” Eschmeyer, and speculating on messages, much less stating that they are plain for all to see is a fool’s errand.

Andrew Luck redshirted his freshman year.  One could have read into that as Coach Harbaugh telling Luck that he had more confidence in Tavita Pritchard than in Luck, and that there were lots of programs hungry to poach him.  Thankfully at the time there was plenty of communication that this was not the case and that some of the decision to redshirt came from Andrew and Oliver Luck.

Sure, Kate Paye may be committing a catastrophic error, and Eschmeyer may be in the transfer portal come the spring, and will thrive somewhere else.  In that case Kate Paye will ultimately be held accountable.  But until that actually happens, I suggest we all turn down the volume a little bit on the uninformed speculation as to what is being communicated to players and what a player will do.

Yeah, I know, this is a message board; I might as well be this guy:



BC

Pretty frustrated with that response. I never speculated on any conversations between coach and player. My post was all about the facts and what is happening, yes, right in front of us all. My point was that the coach is "telling" her things, not verbally, but as I said through her actions. By how she is (not) using her. If you disagree with any of those things I listed, I think that would be a great discussion. IMO, there is no speculation there at all. There's nothing uninformed. It's exactly the opposite of uninformed. It is what is happening. 

Your comparison to Andrew Luck being redshirted isn't apples to apples. You don't burn a year of eligibility with a redshirt year. If Alex was redshirting, there would be no issue. The big issue in this case is that we now live in a world of a transfer portal and NIL, which didn't exist when Luck played. We can't afford to lose her to the portal, and that is a big deal. 

I might be off, but I think sometimes you, and others, feel the need to try and calm down a discussion because maybe you think people are making inappropriate posts? If that's the case, in my defense, I try to be very measured when I post. I don't insult players, make petty comments, use profanity, etc. I feel the same about other posters, and reading discussions about topics like this is one of the things I value most about this board. I can go read bland AI generated content about the Stanford womens basketball team in tons of places, but it's this kind of stuff that's the most interesting.

Lastly, I'd like to point out that you yourself said "sure, she may be making a catastrophic error". Obviously you agree it's potentially a big issue. I don't get it then - it could be a big deal, but let's not talk about it? I don't get it.