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Stanford's WBB team not making the NCAA tourney two years in a row is simply unacceptable.  Thanks to Tara, Stanford has the winning reputation to attract the talent to be a top 25 team every year.  If we fall short again this season, KP should be fired because she either didn't pull in the talent needed or didn't coach well enough.  With two non-tourney seasons under her belt, it will be difficult for her to attract the players needed.  I hope she can turn it around in the next several weeks.

Until her last few years, Tara didn’t have to deal with the transfer portal, but it started to bite a few years ago in ways that are affecting the current team (eg, Lauren Betts and Indya Nivar are starting at UCLA and UNC, respectively).  Until her last year here, Tara didn’t have to deal with other teams offering players 6 figure NIL deals.  That is the current reality, and until we know how the NIL/House settlement money settles out, any comparisons of recruiting, retention, and results between the pre-2020 state of affairs and the post-2025 state of affairs will be apples-to-oranges.

Don’t get me wrong, Paye may well not be the right person to follow Tara.  But I’m not ready to write her off either (even if we fail to make the tournament).

BC

There are 64 teams that managed to make the big dance last season, and there will be 64 teams that manage to make it this season.  KP sat right next to TV for 17 years, giving her plenty of time to see the writing on the wall and adjust.  Hell, she's a Stanford grad and has a MBA and JD from Stanford.  If she failed to anticipate the changes in NCAA WBB, shame on her.  If she was shut down by the Stanford administration in taking the action necessary to keep the program performing at a high level, shame on them.  The bottom line is that Stanford should not accept mediocrity in its WBB program.

I agree that Stanford should not accept mediocrity in WBB. Part of this is recruiting. We need to get high-level recruits to come here...and we probably need to pay them. Without those two things, no coach will have enough to succeed. We have missed out on several top recruits...was this due to unattractive basketball or to the fact that we were outbid for them. Kate can work on the basketball, but if she doesn't have the money...

I think Kate is a very good defensive coach, but I'm not as convinced by her offense. I would suggest getting a coach who focuses on the offense and let Kate manage the team and look over the defense.

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Stanford's WBB team not making the NCAA tourney two years in a row is simply unacceptable.  Thanks to Tara, Stanford has the winning reputation to attract the talent to be a top 25 team every year.  If we fall short again this season, KP should be fired because she either didn't pull in the talent needed or didn't coach well enough.  With two non-tourney seasons under her belt, it will be difficult for her to attract the players needed.  I hope she can turn it around in the next several weeks.

Until her last few years, Tara didn’t have to deal with the transfer portal, but it started to bite a few years ago in ways that are affecting the current team (eg, Lauren Betts and Indya Nivar are starting at UCLA and UNC, respectively).  Until her last year here, Tara didn’t have to deal with other teams offering players 6 figure NIL deals.  That is the current reality, and until we know how the NIL/House settlement money settles out, any comparisons of recruiting, retention, and results between the pre-2020 state of affairs and the post-2025 state of affairs will be apples-to-oranges.

Don’t get me wrong, Paye may well not be the right person to follow Tara.  But I’m not ready to write her off either (even if we fail to make the tournament).

BC

There are 64 teams that managed to make the big dance last season, and there will be 64 teams that manage to make it this season.  KP sat right next to TV for 17 years, giving her plenty of time to see the writing on the wall and adjust.  Hell, she's a Stanford grad and has a MBA and JD from Stanford.  If she failed to anticipate the changes in NCAA WBB, shame on her.  If she was shut down by the Stanford administration in taking the action necessary to keep the program performing at a high level, shame on them.  The bottom line is that Stanford should not accept mediocrity in its WBB program.

I agree that Stanford should not accept mediocrity in WBB. Part of this is recruiting. We need to get high-level recruits to come here...and we probably need to pay them. Without those two things, no coach will have enough to succeed. We have missed out on several top recruits...was this due to unattractive basketball or to the fact that we were outbid for them. Kate can work on the basketball, but if she doesn't have the money...

I think Kate is a very good defensive coach, but I'm not as convinced by her offense. I would suggest getting a coach who focuses on the offense and let Kate manage the team and look over the defense.