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We're constantly critiquing KP, who suffers from having followed a legend. In contrast, Coach Smith of LSJU MBB seems to do no wrong by this board, maybe because he was lucky to follow an anti-legend, Haase, who led the worst era of LSJU MBB in ~ 40 years!

Yet MBB (14-7) and WBB (15-7) are quite similar in W/L record, both having a pair of wins over ranked teams, and four losses by single digits. Per ESPN, MBB and WBB are also fairly similar in most stats. W BB scores ~ 70 ppg compared to 75 for MBB, and has more rebounds per game (41.5 to 35.6 for MBB)  but more turnovers than MBB (15.1 vs 11.2 - maybe due to many more freshmen minutes?). Assists and steals are pretty much equal.

WBB shooting is slightly better overall (43.4 % vs. 42.3 for MBB) and better on FTs (79.3% to 72% for MBB [Rohosy?]; a bit worse on threes (30% vs. 34% for MBB)

MBB is blessed with Okorie, a transcendent/"generational" backcourt talent the likes of which we haven't seen since Brevin Knight-Candace Wiggins-Kate Starbird. WBB doesn't have that but the roster has some solid upperclass players, and freshmen who could become great players. But in the meantime, hey, Kyle is a genius, and KP is no better than any of us would be!

Take a look at Duke MBB where there was no drop off.  That is the expectation especially with Stanford WBB given the women's recruits they are getting relative to MBB.  Okorie is very good - not clear if he is a "generational talent".  Games agianst Cal, Miami, Duke, Virgina were particularly ugly.  We've had higher profile talent including Ziaire Williams that might have done a lot better under Kyle Smith vs Haase.

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We're constantly critiquing KP, who suffers from having followed a legend. In contrast, Coach Smith of LSJU MBB seems to do no wrong by this board, maybe because he was lucky to follow an anti-legend, Haase, who led the worst era of LSJU MBB in ~ 40 years!

Yet MBB (14-7) and WBB (15-7) are quite similar in W/L record, both having a pair of wins over ranked teams, and four losses by single digits. Per ESPN, MBB and WBB are also fairly similar in most stats. W BB scores ~ 70 ppg compared to 75 for MBB, and has more rebounds per game (41.5 to 35.6 for MBB)  but more turnovers than MBB (15.1 vs 11.2 - maybe due to many more freshmen minutes?). Assists and steals are pretty much equal.

WBB shooting is slightly better overall (43.4 % vs. 42.3 for MBB) and better on FTs (79.3% to 72% for MBB [Rohosy?]; a bit worse on threes (30% vs. 34% for MBB)

MBB is blessed with Okorie, a transcendent/"generational" backcourt talent the likes of which we haven't seen since Brevin Knight-Candace Wiggins-Kate Starbird. WBB doesn't have that but the roster has some solid upperclass players, and freshmen who could become great players. But in the meantime, hey, Kyle is a genius, and KP is no better than any of us would be!

Take a look at Duke MBB where there was no drop off.  That is the expectation especially with Stanford WBB given the women's recruits they are getting relative to MBB.  Okorie is very good - not clear if he is a "generational talent".  Games agianst Cal, Miami, Duke, Virgina were particularly ugly.  We've had higher profile talent including Ziaire Williams that might have done a lot better under Kyle Smith vs Haase.