[jacket3ree]

I may be dense, but what on earth is a "grad transfer"? You graduate from one place and are accepted as a graduate student at another place, with eligibility left. The usual process is apply to grad school, get in to grad school, graduate from you undergraduate institution, and go to grad school.

Maybe this is a difference without distinction, but from what I recall four decades ago, don't you apply to a specific department and they decide based on money, spaces, other applicants, etc? You aren't applying to get into the university, you are applying to get into a program. Obviously that might be tough to do for athletes, so some post-baccalaureate we don't want to embarrass ourselves on national TV program would work.

Stanford athlete transfers shouldn't be competing with the limited number of regular transfers throughout all of Stanford, they should be competing only among other athletes for available spots on teams vacated by the transfers out, that aren't going to be filled by incoming high school students. Seems like an easy formula.

A formula that won't work is the one listed below. Over 7 years, 18 players transferred out and 3 players transferred in (so far). One of the transfers in is already transferring out. Either high school replacement recruiting needs to be bang on, or Stanford is the next Japan, or from recent reports, the U.S. Might take a long time, but the talent drain is inevitable. How much is coaching vs. lack of financial resources will come out eventually.

[jacket3ree]

I may be dense, but what on earth is a "grad transfer"? You graduate from one place and are accepted as a graduate student at another place, with eligibility left. The usual process is apply to grad school, get in to grad school, graduate from you undergraduate institution, and go to grad school.

Maybe this is a difference without distinction, but from what I recall four decades ago, don't you apply to a specific department and they decide based on money, spaces, other applicants, etc? You aren't applying to get into the university, you are applying to get into a program. Obviously that might be tough to do for athletes, so some post-baccalaureate we don't want to embarrass ourselves on national TV program would work.

Stanford athlete transfers shouldn't be competing with the limited number of regular transfers throughout all of Stanford, they should be competing only among other athletes for available spots on teams vacated by the transfers out, that aren't going to be filled by incoming high school students. Seems like an easy formula.

A formula that won't work is the one listed below. Over 7 years, 18 players transferred out and 3 players transferred in (so far). One of the transfers in is already transferring out. Either high school replacement recruiting needs to be bang on, or Stanford is the next Japan, or from recent reports, the U.S. Might take a long time, but the talent drain is inevitable. How much is coaching vs. lack of financial resources will come out eventually.