[Papa John]

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He was the John Elway of Cal, never playing on a winning team in three seasons as a starter. 

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Splitting hairs here, but John Elway played on a winning team at Stanford in 1980, which happened to be my freshman year. We went 6-5, and the team was ranked in the top 20 for several weeks. But the season lost its luster when we went splat in the last two games vs the University of Satan's Children and Cal. Would have gone to a bowl game--I think the Peach?--if we had beat Cal (and let's not bring up 1982, OK?).

[Papa John]

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He was the John Elway of Cal, never playing on a winning team in three seasons as a starter. 

<snip>

Splitting hairs here, but John Elway played on a winning team at Stanford in 1980, which happened to be my freshman year. We went 6-5, and the team was ranked in the top 20 for several weeks. But the season lost its luster when we went splat in the last two games vs the University of Satan's Children and Cal. Would have gone to a bowl game--I think the Peach?--if we had beat Cal (and let's not bring up 1982, OK?).