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Of course, it is ugly to talk about, but a lot of the hate Argentina gets is probably just jealousy. They have 3 World Cups.

Sorry, no. Brazil has 5 World Cups and they are probably most people's second-favorite national team. Germany has 4 World Cups and while they are not loved they are highly respected and admired, not hated at all.

The vitriol against Argentina on Sunday is because of their disgusting behavior during and after the match, not because of jealousy or due to being manipulated by "social media algorithms." They present a dichotomy: historically they are one of the greatest national teams of all time, full of the greatest players, gritty and passionate and unselfish, capable of awesome play. But when they come up against a stronger side they have always been petulant, thuggish losers. Admirable grit turns into shithousery and violence. When winning they rely on the dark arts right up to the line, but when they get frustrated they cross way over the line.

As an aside, I've been to Argentina many times and love the country and its people, everyone should visit Buenos Aires and Patagonia as a start. My feelings are strictly about the national team and their antics which I have witnessed (sometimes firsthand) for decades; it's simply part of the team's culture, just as much as the tango, asado and mate are part of the national culture.

So you thought Mbappe and France were classless losers for not staying on the field in 2022 to clap for Argentina lifting the trophy?

Speak for yourself, or cite some data. Plenty of people worldwide outside of Argentina support them. And plenty of people hate Germany and Brazil.

[dabigv13]

Of course, it is ugly to talk about, but a lot of the hate Argentina gets is probably just jealousy. They have 3 World Cups.

Sorry, no. Brazil has 5 World Cups and they are probably most people's second-favorite national team. Germany has 4 World Cups and while they are not loved they are highly respected and admired, not hated at all.

The vitriol against Argentina on Sunday is because of their disgusting behavior during and after the match, not because of jealousy or due to being manipulated by "social media algorithms." They present a dichotomy: historically they are one of the greatest national teams of all time, full of the greatest players, gritty and passionate and unselfish, capable of awesome play. But when they come up against a stronger side they have always been petulant, thuggish losers. Admirable grit turns into shithousery and violence. When winning they rely on the dark arts right up to the line, but when they get frustrated they cross way over the line.

As an aside, I've been to Argentina many times and love the country and its people, everyone should visit Buenos Aires and Patagonia as a start. My feelings are strictly about the national team and their antics which I have witnessed (sometimes firsthand) for decades; it's simply part of the team's culture, just as much as the tango, asado and mate are part of the national culture.

So you thought Mbappe and France were classless losers for not staying on the field in 2022 to clap for Argentina lifting the trophy?

Speak for yourself, or cite some data. Plenty of people worldwide outside of Argentina support them. And plenty of people hate Germany and Brazil.