[Spiny_Norman]

"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.

[Spiny_Norman]

"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.

[Leftcoast]

This isn't that sort of article Spiny but we can guess what events the author is alluding to. 

Stanford has received a lot of bad press for how it handled Title IX issues in the past year plus dealt with a ton of irate alumni for a band ban that was essentially negated by the outgoing provost.  We could point to multiple threads on our own board questioning how these events were handled.

The author would have been remiss if he hadn't at least tried to connect the dots.  He might as well have just published the school's own release. 

I admit I want a lot more info but this is a "day of" article.  Context and analysis may come later.

[Leftcoast]

This isn't that sort of article Spiny but we can guess what events the author is alluding to. 

Stanford has received a lot of bad press for how it handled Title IX issues in the past year plus dealt with a ton of irate alumni for a band ban that was essentially negated by the outgoing provost.  We could point to multiple threads on our own board questioning how these events were handled.

The author would have been remiss if he hadn't at least tried to connect the dots.  He might as well have just published the school's own release. 

I admit I want a lot more info but this is a "day of" article.  Context and analysis may come later.

[JJJ]

I wasn't really "with the program" and didn't know the reputation of The Stanford Review prior to the Band ban. Given their so-called rep, this probably qualifies as a pretty responsible piece of reporting. I'm not going to complain about it.  8)

[JJJ]

I wasn't really "with the program" and didn't know the reputation of The Stanford Review prior to the Band ban. Given their so-called rep, this probably qualifies as a pretty responsible piece of reporting. I'm not going to complain about it.  8)

[76lsjumb]

I wasn't really "with the program" and didn't know the reputation of The Stanford Review prior to the Band ban. Given their so-called rep, this probably qualifies as a pretty responsible piece of reporting. I'm not going to complain about it.  8)

"...their so-called rep,..." ?? 

Wow... Even the most near-sighted person in the world wouldn't have much trouble reading THAT innuendo.

[76lsjumb]

I wasn't really "with the program" and didn't know the reputation of The Stanford Review prior to the Band ban. Given their so-called rep, this probably qualifies as a pretty responsible piece of reporting. I'm not going to complain about it.  8)

"...their so-called rep,..." ?? 

Wow... Even the most near-sighted person in the world wouldn't have much trouble reading THAT innuendo.

[CompSci87]

[quote author=leftcoast link=topic=16269.msg189947#msg189947 date=1489505249]
"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.
[/quote]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

[CompSci87]

[quote author=leftcoast link=topic=16269.msg189947#msg189947 date=1489505249]
"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.
[/quote]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

[PalmTree]

[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=16269.msg189951#msg189951 date=1489513044]
[quote author=leftcoast link=topic=16269.msg189947#msg189947 date=1489505249]
"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.
[/quote]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.
[/quote]

Say what you will but in my experience, having a senior manager at Stanford announce his/her retirement with just a quarter's notice is highly (highly, highly...) unusual to say the least - that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[PalmTree]

[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=16269.msg189951#msg189951 date=1489513044]
[quote author=leftcoast link=topic=16269.msg189947#msg189947 date=1489505249]
"His decision to resign draws questions at a time when VPSA faces criticism for Stanford’s mishandling of Title IX cases, firing of a legal advocate for sexual assault survivors, and reversal of their decision to suspend Band."

Questions from whom?  What questions would those be?  If the writer of the article has questions, he or she should pose them.  I'm not very good at reading innuendo so I appreciate when someone communicates clearly what they mean.
[/quote]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.
[/quote]

Say what you will but in my experience, having a senior manager at Stanford announce his/her retirement with just a quarter's notice is highly (highly, highly...) unusual to say the least - that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[UltimateCard]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...

[UltimateCard]

The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...

[82lsju]

[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......

[82lsju]

[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......

[CTcard]

[quote author=UltimateCard link=topic=16269.msg189978#msg189978 date=1489540185]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......
[/quote]

In academia it is usually that XXX wants to return to his/her first love, research and teaching in the Department of Y.
However, most administrators have been out of their field too long to actually do this - certainly the research part and often even the teaching part. This leads to a certain kind of dark humour among the faculty. That may be somewhat less true at Stanford, which tends to hire real scholars for many of its upper management positions - don't know about Boardman.


EDIT - It seems the original version of this thread has somehow been mixed and matched with the "Per ESPN, the ILSJUMB is back!" thread. A bit confusing - but figuring that out helped me follow the discussion.

[CTcard]

[quote author=UltimateCard link=topic=16269.msg189978#msg189978 date=1489540185]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......
[/quote]

In academia it is usually that XXX wants to return to his/her first love, research and teaching in the Department of Y.
However, most administrators have been out of their field too long to actually do this - certainly the research part and often even the teaching part. This leads to a certain kind of dark humour among the faculty. That may be somewhat less true at Stanford, which tends to hire real scholars for many of its upper management positions - don't know about Boardman.


EDIT - It seems the original version of this thread has somehow been mixed and matched with the "Per ESPN, the ILSJUMB is back!" thread. A bit confusing - but figuring that out helped me follow the discussion.

[PalmTree]

[quote author=eric link=topic=16269.msg189979#msg189979 date=1489541438]
[quote author=UltimateCard link=topic=16269.msg189978#msg189978 date=1489540185]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......
[/quote]

In academia it is usually that XXX wants to return to his/her first love, research and teaching in the Department of Y.
However, most administrators have been out of their field too long to actually do this - certainly the research part and often even the teaching part. This leads to a certain kind of dark humour among the faculty. That may be somewhat less true at Stanford, which tends to hire real scholars for many of its upper management positions - don't know about Boardman.

[/quote]

Boardman does not have an academic/research work background  - his background has solely been in administrative  capacities

[PalmTree]

[quote author=eric link=topic=16269.msg189979#msg189979 date=1489541438]
[quote author=UltimateCard link=topic=16269.msg189978#msg189978 date=1489540185]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16269.msg189974#msg189974 date=1489537157]
The obvious question is how voluntary this retirement was. Answer could range anywhere from "he was planning to retire at this time all along" through "he got tired of all the flak and decided to retire" to "he was forced out." We are unlikely to get the answer.

Given that VPSA is in the midst of a strategic planning process, I think we can make a pretty good guess...
[/quote]

time will tell, he's ~60 years old, if he turns up in a similar position somewhere else in the next year we'll have our answer

in industry, not sure about academia, the typical "forced out" description is XXX wants to spend more time with their family.......
[/quote]

In academia it is usually that XXX wants to return to his/her first love, research and teaching in the Department of Y.
However, most administrators have been out of their field too long to actually do this - certainly the research part and often even the teaching part. This leads to a certain kind of dark humour among the faculty. That may be somewhat less true at Stanford, which tends to hire real scholars for many of its upper management positions - don't know about Boardman.

[/quote]

Boardman does not have an academic/research work background  - his background has solely been in administrative  capacities

[Goose]

While Boardman may be the "bad guy" here, how about all the people that reported to him? They must have agreed, at least in the main, with what he did. In fact, they may be more the problem, pushing a reluctant administrator in a direction he would have not gone on his own. I don't know the story, but while he is/will be gone, the underlings are still there. And from my experience with bureaucracy, that is a worse problem. You can't kill it by loping off the head. You have to eviscerate it.

[Goose]

While Boardman may be the "bad guy" here, how about all the people that reported to him? They must have agreed, at least in the main, with what he did. In fact, they may be more the problem, pushing a reluctant administrator in a direction he would have not gone on his own. I don't know the story, but while he is/will be gone, the underlings are still there. And from my experience with bureaucracy, that is a worse problem. You can't kill it by loping off the head. You have to eviscerate it.