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[M T]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

[M T]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

[akiddoc]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

Marin County residents packed Stinson beach Saturday with crowds larger than those seen in the summer. Marin County closed every park in the county today as a response.

[akiddoc]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

Marin County residents packed Stinson beach Saturday with crowds larger than those seen in the summer. Marin County closed every park in the county today as a response.

[82 Card]

The California version is less colorful but just as angry. See the fist two paragraphs of March 23 statement by San Mateo Count Health Officer: https://www.smchealth.org/post/health-of...statements

[82 Card]

The California version is less colorful but just as angry. See the fist two paragraphs of March 23 statement by San Mateo Count Health Officer: https://www.smchealth.org/post/health-of...statements

[BostonCard]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

Apparently in Brazil the gangs are imposing the shelter-in-place orders in the favellas.  The article also notes the use of helicopters to create a sandstorm to disburse beachgoers.

Meanwhile, organised crime gangs are enforcing their own coronavirus lockdown in Rio de Janeiro by ordering people to obey a curfew.  
Threatening messages which circulated in the city's notorious favelas warn that gangsters will teach people to 'respect' an 8pm shutdown, Brazilian media says.  
'Attention all residents of Rio das Pedras, Muzema and Tijuquinha! Curfew from 8pm today. Whoever is seen on the street after this time will learn to respect the next one,' one message from the gangsters reads.  
According to G1, another message says: 'We want the best for the population. If the government does not have the capacity to fix it, organised crime will solve it.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...velas.html

BC

[BostonCard]

Video of Brazil police with automatic weapons in a helicopter clearing the beaches.  A helicopter's backwash appears to be used intentionally to sandblast the first pair of beach-goers.  The people on the beach were maintaining maybe 100 yards of separation.

That site has other videos from China related to COVID-19, including authorities chaining or using iron bars to seal people in their houses, police breaking into a residence allegedly because someone may be sick there, people without masks being arrested, mob violence against family of sick people, a tied group of people (sick?) being taken down a street, quarantine boxes being used to isolate people, etc. (I decline to put a link to the videos.) 

Not at all comforting.  I surely hope none of that happens here, but fear is primal.

Apparently in Brazil the gangs are imposing the shelter-in-place orders in the favellas.  The article also notes the use of helicopters to create a sandstorm to disburse beachgoers.

Meanwhile, organised crime gangs are enforcing their own coronavirus lockdown in Rio de Janeiro by ordering people to obey a curfew.  
Threatening messages which circulated in the city's notorious favelas warn that gangsters will teach people to 'respect' an 8pm shutdown, Brazilian media says.  
'Attention all residents of Rio das Pedras, Muzema and Tijuquinha! Curfew from 8pm today. Whoever is seen on the street after this time will learn to respect the next one,' one message from the gangsters reads.  
According to G1, another message says: 'We want the best for the population. If the government does not have the capacity to fix it, organised crime will solve it.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...velas.html

BC

[fullmetal]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

[fullmetal]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

[OutsiderFan]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

*APPLAUSE*

Well played, sir.

[OutsiderFan]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

*APPLAUSE*

Well played, sir.

[BostonCard]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

Basically, this is hardly the first place where organized gangs have greater state capacity (especially on a local level) than the state.  And gangs have a similar incentive to ensure social stability and the that their own operations can continue.

BC

[BostonCard]

When organized crime is enacting better public health policy than the government, who are the real criminals?

Basically, this is hardly the first place where organized gangs have greater state capacity (especially on a local level) than the state.  And gangs have a similar incentive to ensure social stability and the that their own operations can continue.

BC

[fullmetal]

Great point.  On the more organized/legitimate end of the crime-invested-in-society, you have Hamas/Hizballah, then maybe the yakuza, then the mafia/triads, then maybe your favela gangs.

[fullmetal]

Great point.  On the more organized/legitimate end of the crime-invested-in-society, you have Hamas/Hizballah, then maybe the yakuza, then the mafia/triads, then maybe your favela gangs.

[CornFed]

Great point.  On the more organized/legitimate end of the crime-invested-in-society, you have Hamas/Hizballah, then maybe the yakuza, then the mafia/triads, then maybe your favela gangs.

Distinctions without differences.

[CornFed]

Great point.  On the more organized/legitimate end of the crime-invested-in-society, you have Hamas/Hizballah, then maybe the yakuza, then the mafia/triads, then maybe your favela gangs.

Distinctions without differences.