[CardinalWBBFan]

Really wish we could have landed one of von Oelhoffen, Kampschroeder, or Citron in this class, as I think we really could have used a skilled 2/3 in ‘21. Hopefully we can get Iriafen and maybe one other to close out ‘21. 

Hopefully we can get Kiki Rice and a 4/5 or two in ‘22.

[CardinalWBBFan]

Really wish we could have landed one of von Oelhoffen, Kampschroeder, or Citron in this class, as I think we really could have used a skilled 2/3 in ‘21. Hopefully we can get Iriafen and maybe one other to close out ‘21. 

Hopefully we can get Kiki Rice and a 4/5 or two in ‘22.

[BostonCard]

Still hoping for Azzi Fudd.

BC

[BostonCard]

Still hoping for Azzi Fudd.

BC

[BosCard]

Here is an interesting take on Von Oelhoffen from an Oregon State fan on the UConn General Women's Basketball board:

"As a fan of Oregon State, I'm very pleased to have another proven scorer in Von Oelhoffen committed to the Beavs for 2021. She is a gifted scorer who may break Van Lith's all-time state of Washington scoring record next season. I have little doubt that she will be a quality scorer at the next level. I'm just not sure whether she can be an elite point guard in the PAC-12. Opposing high school coaches who have coached against her have shared that sentiment. If she has been promised the point for Oregon State, I would be surprised. She will have to earn that spot and may struggle to handle the ball against point guards with quickness.


In high school, she has been a volume shooter, Last season, she averaged 26 points per game on just over 20 shots per game. She shot 32% from beyond the arc on just over 6 attempts per game. Not elite numbers. She is a confident player who should step into the starting line-up for Oregon State as a frosh if she continues her progression. I am just not convinced that she is Oregon State's point guard of the future. I would rather see her play the 2 and use her strength advantage at that position."

While I still would have liked to have seen her as a Cardinal, it does take the sting out of missing out on her.  I thought she might be able to play the point in the PAC-12 but it seems like there are some questions about that.  

And her 3 point shooting is pretty good but not great.  Here is how she has shot from 3 the last 3 years:

• Von Oelhoffen - Fr, So, Jr (32%, 31%, 32%)
  

For comparison, here is Jump as my great shooter control, as well as Van Gytenbeek and Harriel:

• Jump - Fr, So, Jr, Sr (40%, 44%, 45%, 39%)
  
• Van Gyytenbeek - Fr, So, Jr, Sr (33%, 36%, 40%, 45%)
  
• Harriel - Fr, So, Jr (30%, 36%, 36%)
  

If Van Gytenbeek can sustain her improved 3 point shooting into college, that would be brobdingnagian because one thing we know is that Stanford point guards need to be able to shoot the 3.  Our offense becomes stagnant if defenses can sag off our point guard to defend the drive.  It also clogs up the area under the basket and we need spacing for cutters or slashers to operate

[BosCard]

Here is an interesting take on Von Oelhoffen from an Oregon State fan on the UConn General Women's Basketball board:

"As a fan of Oregon State, I'm very pleased to have another proven scorer in Von Oelhoffen committed to the Beavs for 2021. She is a gifted scorer who may break Van Lith's all-time state of Washington scoring record next season. I have little doubt that she will be a quality scorer at the next level. I'm just not sure whether she can be an elite point guard in the PAC-12. Opposing high school coaches who have coached against her have shared that sentiment. If she has been promised the point for Oregon State, I would be surprised. She will have to earn that spot and may struggle to handle the ball against point guards with quickness.


In high school, she has been a volume shooter, Last season, she averaged 26 points per game on just over 20 shots per game. She shot 32% from beyond the arc on just over 6 attempts per game. Not elite numbers. She is a confident player who should step into the starting line-up for Oregon State as a frosh if she continues her progression. I am just not convinced that she is Oregon State's point guard of the future. I would rather see her play the 2 and use her strength advantage at that position."

While I still would have liked to have seen her as a Cardinal, it does take the sting out of missing out on her.  I thought she might be able to play the point in the PAC-12 but it seems like there are some questions about that.  

And her 3 point shooting is pretty good but not great.  Here is how she has shot from 3 the last 3 years:

• Von Oelhoffen - Fr, So, Jr (32%, 31%, 32%)
  

For comparison, here is Jump as my great shooter control, as well as Van Gytenbeek and Harriel:

• Jump - Fr, So, Jr, Sr (40%, 44%, 45%, 39%)
  
• Van Gyytenbeek - Fr, So, Jr, Sr (33%, 36%, 40%, 45%)
  
• Harriel - Fr, So, Jr (30%, 36%, 36%)
  

If Van Gytenbeek can sustain her improved 3 point shooting into college, that would be brobdingnagian because one thing we know is that Stanford point guards need to be able to shoot the 3.  Our offense becomes stagnant if defenses can sag off our point guard to defend the drive.  It also clogs up the area under the basket and we need spacing for cutters or slashers to operate

[CompSci87]

Kayla McPherson plans to announce a top 7-10 soon.

https://www.onlineathens.com/sports/2020...her-top-10

[CompSci87]

Kayla McPherson plans to announce a top 7-10 soon.

https://www.onlineathens.com/sports/2020...her-top-10

[mbdude]

Oregon adds a 6'6" juco transfer. Graves never saw her in person. Practice player for Sedona Prince?

https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2020/06...tball.html

[mbdude]

Oregon adds a 6'6" juco transfer. Graves never saw her in person. Practice player for Sedona Prince?

https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2020/06...tball.html

[dcnav]

Why does the song “Another One Bites the Dust” come to mind? If she were admitted, I’d have to think driving distance for parents to see games would have been factor? We live in strange times.

if that becomes a more important factor, it's not all bad for us since there are always a lot of very good recruits in California. At least in the PacNW, parents can drive to at least 4 games and often five if we play Gonzaga or some other program up there. And it also depends on how important the scholastic side is for these students. Some of them will also be happy to be further away from the parents/hometown. Remember when you were 18? Some like to stay close, some like space!

[dcnav]

Why does the song “Another One Bites the Dust” come to mind? If she were admitted, I’d have to think driving distance for parents to see games would have been factor? We live in strange times.

if that becomes a more important factor, it's not all bad for us since there are always a lot of very good recruits in California. At least in the PacNW, parents can drive to at least 4 games and often five if we play Gonzaga or some other program up there. And it also depends on how important the scholastic side is for these students. Some of them will also be happy to be further away from the parents/hometown. Remember when you were 18? Some like to stay close, some like space!

[Jskass]

Why does the song “Another One Bites the Dust” come to mind? If she were admitted, I’d have to think driving distance for parents to see games would have been factor? We live in strange times.

if that becomes a more important factor, it's not all bad for us since there are always a lot of very good recruits in California. At least in the PacNW, parents can drive to at least 4 games and often five if we play Gonzaga or some other program up there. And it also depends on how important the scholastic side is for these students. Some of them will also be happy to be further away from the parents/hometown. Remember when you were 18? Some like to stay close, some like space!

you bet! I went 4 hours away by car. Perfect distance in a place that was hard to get to otherwise! Then again my theory on distance was demolished by OSU/Kampschroeder so I examined the top 12 in 2021 and all those committed thus far except her are staying within one time zone of home and most even closer.

[Jskass]

Why does the song “Another One Bites the Dust” come to mind? If she were admitted, I’d have to think driving distance for parents to see games would have been factor? We live in strange times.

if that becomes a more important factor, it's not all bad for us since there are always a lot of very good recruits in California. At least in the PacNW, parents can drive to at least 4 games and often five if we play Gonzaga or some other program up there. And it also depends on how important the scholastic side is for these students. Some of them will also be happy to be further away from the parents/hometown. Remember when you were 18? Some like to stay close, some like space!

you bet! I went 4 hours away by car. Perfect distance in a place that was hard to get to otherwise! Then again my theory on distance was demolished by OSU/Kampschroeder so I examined the top 12 in 2021 and all those committed thus far except her are staying within one time zone of home and most even closer.

[CardinalWBBFan]

Can take McPherson off, top-5 of UNC, Georgia Tech, NC State, Mississippi State, and Arizona.

[CardinalWBBFan]

Can take McPherson off, top-5 of UNC, Georgia Tech, NC State, Mississippi State, and Arizona.

[2006alum]

Can take McPherson off, top-5 of UNC, Georgia Tech, NC State, Mississippi State, and Arizona.

Didn't ever see her as a realistic option, so not overly surprised she's not. But wow has our list of 2021 targets shrunk.

[2006alum]

Can take McPherson off, top-5 of UNC, Georgia Tech, NC State, Mississippi State, and Arizona.

Didn't ever see her as a realistic option, so not overly surprised she's not. But wow has our list of 2021 targets shrunk.

[BobK]

Deleted her but I really thought since ftom Hull GA it was a perfect fit :)

[BobK]

Deleted her but I really thought since ftom Hull GA it was a perfect fit :)

[BosCard]

Hi BobK, would you consider adding 2023 Courtney Ogden to our watch list?  She is a 6'1" wing from Atlanta, GA.  She is ranked #5 overall in ESPN HoopGurlz's rankings.  Kate Paye has been following her on twitter for quite a long time.  And Ogden's twitter page just seems like she is a very high achieving young woman who would very much value a Stanford education.  She has been studying Mandarin for four years and has a 3.75 GPA.

[BosCard]

Hi BobK, would you consider adding 2023 Courtney Ogden to our watch list?  She is a 6'1" wing from Atlanta, GA.  She is ranked #5 overall in ESPN HoopGurlz's rankings.  Kate Paye has been following her on twitter for quite a long time.  And Ogden's twitter page just seems like she is a very high achieving young woman who would very much value a Stanford education.  She has been studying Mandarin for four years and has a 3.75 GPA.

[BobK]

I will thanks. I had her on once took her off. I don’t recall why.

I also have a 2023 NE player to add when I can. Dad says she has a Stanford offer. True or not shows they have interest in Stanford

3.75 is a bit worrisome

[BobK]

I will thanks. I had her on once took her off. I don’t recall why.

I also have a 2023 NE player to add when I can. Dad says she has a Stanford offer. True or not shows they have interest in Stanford

3.75 is a bit worrisome

[CardinalWBBFan]

I think Haley Jones GPA was around a 3.25 when she committed. 3.75 not too bad.

Brink was in similar range as Ogden.

Jump, Harriel, and Belibi were definitely 4.00 or over.

[CardinalWBBFan]

I think Haley Jones GPA was around a 3.25 when she committed. 3.75 not too bad.

Brink was in similar range as Ogden.

Jump, Harriel, and Belibi were definitely 4.00 or over.

[BobK]

Not long ago for a sister sport a 4.25 was turned down. So I’m always Leary.

[BobK]

Not long ago for a sister sport a 4.25 was turned down. So I’m always Leary.

[Softball Fan]

Not long ago for a sister sport a 4.25 was turned down.    So I’m always Leary.

But that couldn't have had anything to do with the GPA.  Maybe the test score.

[Softball Fan]

Not long ago for a sister sport a 4.25 was turned down.    So I’m always Leary.

But that couldn't have had anything to do with the GPA.  Maybe the test score.

[BobK]

It was Palo Alto and you probably know of the athlete. Your sport :). Still shocking thus Leary of below 4.0

[BobK]

It was Palo Alto and you probably know of the athlete. Your sport :). Still shocking thus Leary of below 4.0

[Softball Fan]

It was Palo Alto and you probably know of the athlete.  Your sport :).  Still shocking thus Leary of below 4.0

Wow, if she now plays for Oregon that would explain a lot.  I know this player's test scores were reasonably good.  I wonder if there is a different standard for volleyball versus sports that bring in more revenue?

[Softball Fan]

It was Palo Alto and you probably know of the athlete.  Your sport :).  Still shocking thus Leary of below 4.0

Wow, if she now plays for Oregon that would explain a lot.  I know this player's test scores were reasonably good.  I wonder if there is a different standard for volleyball versus sports that bring in more revenue?

[BobK]

Most all sports at Stanford are hard with football easier. Money talks nothing wrong in my mind.


And yes that’s her

[BobK]

Most all sports at Stanford are hard with football easier. Money talks nothing wrong in my mind.


And yes that’s her

[BosCard]

What do you think about adding 2022 wing Jennah Isai?  She is 5'11" and is ranked #54 overall by HoopGurlz.  Tempie Brown follows both her and her mother.  And she has a 4.42 GPA

[BosCard]

What do you think about adding 2022 wing Jennah Isai?  She is 5'11" and is ranked #54 overall by HoopGurlz.  Tempie Brown follows both her and her mother.  And she has a 4.42 GPA

[Phogge]

Hey Bobbbbb, in your posts above would that be Tim Leary? You again win the Big Red Spelling Contest and somewhere Red is smiling.

[Phogge]

Hey Bobbbbb, in your posts above would that be Tim Leary? You again win the Big Red Spelling Contest and somewhere Red is smiling.