08-20-2021, 11:49 AM
I feel ok with the play in game as long as Solomon Torres isn't pitching.
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08-20-2021, 03:53 PM
(08-20-2021, 11:49 AM)Phogge Wrote: I feel ok with the play in game as long as Solomon Torres isn't pitching.
Agreed. Torres started out well, 2-0 his rookie season with a 2.40 ERA as of September 4, 1993 (the Giants' 100 win season). Then cratered, going 3-13 the rest of his MLB career.
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(08-20-2021, 11:49 AM)Phogge Wrote: I feel ok with the play in game as long as Solomon Torres isn't pitching.
Agreed. Torres started out well, 2-0 his rookie season with a 2.40 ERA as of September 4, 1993 (the Giants' 100 win season). Then cratered, going 3-13 the rest of his MLB career.
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08-20-2021, 04:54 PM
Those who are expecting the Dodgers to overtake the Giants are forgetting one big advantage for the Giants -- the Dodgers are still using Kenley Jansen as their closer.
(08-20-2021, 05:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 04:54 PM)terry Wrote: Those who are expecting the Dodgers to overtake the Giants are forgetting one big advantage for the Giants -- the Dodgers are still using Kenley Jansen as their closer.
Yeah, but Trienen is pretty darn good.
Giants lose; Dodgers win (8 in a row now for LAD).
Dodgers now 1.5 games out of first place.
BTW, Giants score 1 run.
5 total hits for the Giants.
Wade, La Stella, Belt, Bryant a combined 0-14.
Lex, you may need to re-think your assumption that hitting will not be an issue for the Giants the rest of the way. They are now on 3 or 4 games with poor run production.
I'm thinking Dodgers win the west by 4+ games when all is said and done.
Just hope Giants can win the play-in game.
Would love to see this team play a real playoff series.
(08-20-2021, 05:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 04:54 PM)terry Wrote: Those who are expecting the Dodgers to overtake the Giants are forgetting one big advantage for the Giants -- the Dodgers are still using Kenley Jansen as their closer.
Yeah, but Trienen is pretty darn good.
Giants lose; Dodgers win (8 in a row now for LAD).
Dodgers now 1.5 games out of first place.
BTW, Giants score 1 run.
5 total hits for the Giants.
Wade, La Stella, Belt, Bryant a combined 0-14.
Lex, you may need to re-think your assumption that hitting will not be an issue for the Giants the rest of the way. They are now on 3 or 4 games with poor run production.
I'm thinking Dodgers win the west by 4+ games when all is said and done.
Just hope Giants can win the play-in game.
Would love to see this team play a real playoff series.
(08-20-2021, 10:39 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 05:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 04:54 PM)terry Wrote: Those who are expecting the Dodgers to overtake the Giants are forgetting one big advantage for the Giants -- the Dodgers are still using Kenley Jansen as their closer.
Yeah, but Trienen is pretty darn good.
Giants lose; Dodgers win (8 in a row now for LAD).
Dodgers now 1.5 games out of first place.
BTW, Giants score 1 run.
5 total hits for the Giants.
Wade, La Stella, Belt, Bryant a combined 0-14.
Lex, you may need to re-think your assumption that hitting will not be an issue for the Giants the rest of the way. They are now on 3 or 4 games with poor run production.
I'm thinking Dodgers win the west by 4+ games when all is said and done.
Just hope Giants can win the play-in game.
Would love to see this team play a real playoff series.
Why? Every team has stretches where they don’t hit. It’s a long season. But they have enough depth that the hitting will be ok. One issue is scoring without HRs. Last night they were unlucky. Flores hits a rocket with two on that Marte runs down. Bryant hits a rocket to center with bases loaded. Right at Marte. Potential 4 runs.
Pitching another question. What hurt Giants last night were 2 lead off walks. To a team that lives for walks.
I’ve always thought Dodgers will win division. More talented. Better pitching.
(08-20-2021, 10:39 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 05:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-20-2021, 04:54 PM)terry Wrote: Those who are expecting the Dodgers to overtake the Giants are forgetting one big advantage for the Giants -- the Dodgers are still using Kenley Jansen as their closer.
Yeah, but Trienen is pretty darn good.
Giants lose; Dodgers win (8 in a row now for LAD).
Dodgers now 1.5 games out of first place.
BTW, Giants score 1 run.
5 total hits for the Giants.
Wade, La Stella, Belt, Bryant a combined 0-14.
Lex, you may need to re-think your assumption that hitting will not be an issue for the Giants the rest of the way. They are now on 3 or 4 games with poor run production.
I'm thinking Dodgers win the west by 4+ games when all is said and done.
Just hope Giants can win the play-in game.
Would love to see this team play a real playoff series.
Why? Every team has stretches where they don’t hit. It’s a long season. But they have enough depth that the hitting will be ok. One issue is scoring without HRs. Last night they were unlucky. Flores hits a rocket with two on that Marte runs down. Bryant hits a rocket to center with bases loaded. Right at Marte. Potential 4 runs.
Pitching another question. What hurt Giants last night were 2 lead off walks. To a team that lives for walks.
I’ve always thought Dodgers will win division. More talented. Better pitching.
08-21-2021, 10:10 AM
One mistake that most people didn’t notice and luckily it didn’t lead to a run. On Harrison’s bloop two run single to center Yaz made a bad throw home even though he didn’t have a chance to catch the runner. Belt stood by and let it go through. Perhaps Posey did not yell to cut it off and Harrison, who would have been easy to retire, made it to second with one out. Small mistake that they don’t make very often. Giants seemed flat all evening. First in person game for me in years. Then the Mets continued their cave in against the Evil Empire. Crappy night.
One mistake that most people didn’t notice and luckily it didn’t lead to a run. On Harrison’s bloop two run single to center Yaz made a bad throw home even though he didn’t have a chance to catch the runner. Belt stood by and let it go through. Perhaps Posey did not yell to cut it off and Harrison, who would have been easy to retire, made it to second with one out. Small mistake that they don’t make very often. Giants seemed flat all evening. First in person game for me in years. Then the Mets continued their cave in against the Evil Empire. Crappy night.
(08-21-2021, 10:10 AM)Phogge Wrote: One mistake that most people didn’t notice and luckily it didn’t lead to a run. On Harrison’s bloop two run single to center Yaz made a bad throw home even though he didn’t have a chance to catch the runner. Belt stood by and let it go through. Perhaps Posey did not yell to cut it off and Harrison, who would have been easy to retire, made it to second with one out. Small mistake that they don’t make very often. Giants seemed flat all evening. First in person game for me in years. Then the Mets continued their cave in against the Evil Empire. Crappy night.
Glad you went to the game. W e went to Giants Astros a couple Sundays ago. Spent weekend in SF. Stayed at Hotel Via across street from Oracle. Fun weekend.
We also ate at International Smoke. Ayisha Curry’s collaboration with Michael Mina. We ordered off En Fuego fixed price menu. Some of the items were very good a couple quite average. What I will say is if you’re going to order off that menu be prepared to end up with a boatload of food left over. Unlike most fix priced menus you don’t get to choose one of each course. They just bring everything. And it was way too much food. Felt horrible because I had no refrigerator to put it in so it went to waste and I hate wasting food..
If I went back I’d order off main menu. It was just too much food. The ribs are her specialty and they are good.
(08-21-2021, 10:10 AM)Phogge Wrote: One mistake that most people didn’t notice and luckily it didn’t lead to a run. On Harrison’s bloop two run single to center Yaz made a bad throw home even though he didn’t have a chance to catch the runner. Belt stood by and let it go through. Perhaps Posey did not yell to cut it off and Harrison, who would have been easy to retire, made it to second with one out. Small mistake that they don’t make very often. Giants seemed flat all evening. First in person game for me in years. Then the Mets continued their cave in against the Evil Empire. Crappy night.
Glad you went to the game. W e went to Giants Astros a couple Sundays ago. Spent weekend in SF. Stayed at Hotel Via across street from Oracle. Fun weekend.
We also ate at International Smoke. Ayisha Curry’s collaboration with Michael Mina. We ordered off En Fuego fixed price menu. Some of the items were very good a couple quite average. What I will say is if you’re going to order off that menu be prepared to end up with a boatload of food left over. Unlike most fix priced menus you don’t get to choose one of each course. They just bring everything. And it was way too much food. Felt horrible because I had no refrigerator to put it in so it went to waste and I hate wasting food..
If I went back I’d order off main menu. It was just too much food. The ribs are her specialty and they are good.
08-21-2021, 11:24 AM
Almost went to a game couple of weeks ago and was going to stay at that hotel Lex.
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08-21-2021, 06:28 PM
Ruf/Wade combined: 29 HR, 72 RBI. Plenty of outfielders. Need to get Bart's bat into the lineup next year.
Need an ace in free agency. The farm guys aren't ready.
Need an ace in free agency. The farm guys aren't ready.
08-21-2021, 09:45 PM
(08-21-2021, 06:28 PM)Phogge Wrote: Ruf/Wade combined: 29 HR, 72 RBI. Plenty of outfielders. Need to get Bart's bat into the lineup next year.
Need an ace in free agency. The farm guys aren't ready.
Given that only Webb is a sure thing next year, SF needs four starters in free agency (a combo of their own FA’s plus guys, including an ace, from other teams).
(08-21-2021, 06:28 PM)Phogge Wrote: Ruf/Wade combined: 29 HR, 72 RBI. Plenty of outfielders. Need to get Bart's bat into the lineup next year.
Need an ace in free agency. The farm guys aren't ready.
Given that only Webb is a sure thing next year, SF needs four starters in free agency (a combo of their own FA’s plus guys, including an ace, from other teams).
08-22-2021, 09:23 PM
Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
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Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
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08-22-2021, 10:33 PM
(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
(08-22-2021, 10:33 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
No one cares about Batting Average anymore. I don’t think 2 runs on 4 hits is a strategy. Montas was throwing 97 on the corners with a 91 slider and nasty change up. He is tough when on. And he was on.
To answer directly. Giants fifth in NL. .245. Dodgers 4th .246.
(08-22-2021, 10:33 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
No one cares about Batting Average anymore. I don’t think 2 runs on 4 hits is a strategy. Montas was throwing 97 on the corners with a 91 slider and nasty change up. He is tough when on. And he was on.
To answer directly. Giants fifth in NL. .245. Dodgers 4th .246.
08-23-2021, 08:10 AM
(08-23-2021, 07:41 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 10:33 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
No one cares about Batting Average anymore. I don’t think 2 runs on 4 hits is a strategy. Montas was throwing 97 on the corners with a 91 slider and nasty change up. He is tough when on. And he was on.
To answer directly. Giants fifth in NL. .245. Dodgers 4th .246.
The Washington Nationals lead the NL in batting average by a big margin with .258 - yet they are 53-70 on the year.
Nothing is predictably sustainable in a short playoff series, but against top starters it's easier to hit a home run or two as opposed to repeatedly stringing together a series of singles. What bodes well for SF is that they have moderate power spread throughout the lineup instead of being concentrated in a couple of players, so they are less susceptible to an individual slumping or being in a bad matchup in the playoffs.
(08-23-2021, 07:41 AM)lex24 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 10:33 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:23 PM)Mick Wrote: Giants 2.5 ahead of Dodgers in NL, 3.5 ahead of Milwaukee, but 12.0 ahead of Atlanta and Cincinnati, and 13 ahead of San Diego.
Giants #5 in MLB OPS, #9 in runs scored, #1 in HRs (187), #2 in ERA (3.29) and T1 for WHIP (1.12), #4 in Fielding percentage with .987 -- but #1 in total chances, with 4,507.
Where are the Giants on batting average?
Do you think 4 hits; 2 runs (on a 2-run dinger) is a sustainable strategy through the playoffs?
Indeed, against the A's, every run the Giants scored in the 3-game series was thanks to the long ball. I just don't see that happening much in the playoffs. But maybe . . .
P.S. The Dodgers lost!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
No one cares about Batting Average anymore. I don’t think 2 runs on 4 hits is a strategy. Montas was throwing 97 on the corners with a 91 slider and nasty change up. He is tough when on. And he was on.
To answer directly. Giants fifth in NL. .245. Dodgers 4th .246.
The Washington Nationals lead the NL in batting average by a big margin with .258 - yet they are 53-70 on the year.
Nothing is predictably sustainable in a short playoff series, but against top starters it's easier to hit a home run or two as opposed to repeatedly stringing together a series of singles. What bodes well for SF is that they have moderate power spread throughout the lineup instead of being concentrated in a couple of players, so they are less susceptible to an individual slumping or being in a bad matchup in the playoffs.
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