05-27-2021, 11:48 AM
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Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
five kick-off times announced
05-27-2021, 12:05 PM
9am on the road against a purple Wildcat team. Where have wee seen that before?
2 Friday night games, neither after a bye.
Awful.
2 Friday night games, neither after a bye.
Awful.
05-27-2021, 12:19 PM
Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
05-27-2021, 12:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2021, 12:22 PM by French Rage.)
That "9AM" looked like a "4AM" at first glance and I was like, what the hell?
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2021, 12:22 PM by French Rage.)
That "9AM" looked like a "4AM" at first glance and I was like, what the hell?
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
05-27-2021, 12:28 PM
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
I had the same reaction as SamuelMcF regarding the K-State game. As he pointed out, Stanford's 2015 team opened its season with a road game at 11 a.m. against Northwestern on a hot, muggy, energy-sapping day. Stanford looked horrible. That was an excellent Stanford team, which later won the Rose Bowl and finished with a #3 ranking. But that team sure didn't perform well with the 11 a.m. kickoff in the heat and humidity.
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
I had the same reaction as SamuelMcF regarding the K-State game. As he pointed out, Stanford's 2015 team opened its season with a road game at 11 a.m. against Northwestern on a hot, muggy, energy-sapping day. Stanford looked horrible. That was an excellent Stanford team, which later won the Rose Bowl and finished with a #3 ranking. But that team sure didn't perform well with the 11 a.m. kickoff in the heat and humidity.
05-27-2021, 12:39 PM
One would hope that we have learned some lessons from that. I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall that Shaw decided to stay in California until pretty late in the week. Hopefully, we won't repeat that mistake. I think if we have a poor showing this year, the reason will be that the team is just not very good.
BC
BC
One would hope that we have learned some lessons from that. I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall that Shaw decided to stay in California until pretty late in the week. Hopefully, we won't repeat that mistake. I think if we have a poor showing this year, the reason will be that the team is just not very good.
BC
BC
05-27-2021, 12:43 PM
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)French Rage Wrote: That "9AM" looked like a "4AM" at first glance and I was like, what the hell?
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
I believe you can watch ESPNU online at watchespn.com without a login.
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)French Rage Wrote: That "9AM" looked like a "4AM" at first glance and I was like, what the hell?
Nothing too surprising. The USC game is going to be late to be the marquee matchup for that timeslot on that week. I prefer the home Friday game, if there has to be one, to be at 7:30pm rather than 6pm because getting to Palo Alto by 6pm after work is a complete joke.
Also, having a game on ESPNU sucks, as I don't get that.
I believe you can watch ESPNU online at watchespn.com without a login.
05-27-2021, 01:02 PM
The schedule looks about right.
The first game will be in Texas, so it will be hot. The stadium has a roof, so I do wonder if the roof might be closed for the game. It probably will be best for TV for the roof to be closed, so hopefully that will happen.
Given those first three road games are on the schedule, the start times might just be best for the team and Stanford fans.
A game in Dallas with shade for fans and/or a closed roof rather than Kansas. Yes
A game in LA in the evening rather than in the middle of the day. Yes
A game in Tennessee at night rather than a noon kickoff during a really hazy, hot day. Works for me too.
The Friday games are a part of the conference contract, and a nearly certain to be a feature in future contracts. 7:30 is far too late for East Coast types, but I can only imagine some in the Pac-12 have realized kick-offs at 6PM in very empty stadiums has not done much to impress East Coast types. In any event, getting the Tempe game to be held at night is rather important, so I am sure Friday 7:30PM will be much better for the team than Saturday at 1PM. Also, the travel logistics to get out of Tempe are not bad.
The most important thing for Stanford IMHO is to get as many home games as possible after classes start.
Given the contractual limitations and the slate of opponents the schedule is viable. It is rather easy to imagine five start times that would have been less favorable.
For example, USC at Noon, Vanderbilt at 11AM (local)/9AM(Pacific), & Utah at 6PM.
The first game will be in Texas, so it will be hot. The stadium has a roof, so I do wonder if the roof might be closed for the game. It probably will be best for TV for the roof to be closed, so hopefully that will happen.
Given those first three road games are on the schedule, the start times might just be best for the team and Stanford fans.
A game in Dallas with shade for fans and/or a closed roof rather than Kansas. Yes
A game in LA in the evening rather than in the middle of the day. Yes
A game in Tennessee at night rather than a noon kickoff during a really hazy, hot day. Works for me too.
The Friday games are a part of the conference contract, and a nearly certain to be a feature in future contracts. 7:30 is far too late for East Coast types, but I can only imagine some in the Pac-12 have realized kick-offs at 6PM in very empty stadiums has not done much to impress East Coast types. In any event, getting the Tempe game to be held at night is rather important, so I am sure Friday 7:30PM will be much better for the team than Saturday at 1PM. Also, the travel logistics to get out of Tempe are not bad.
The most important thing for Stanford IMHO is to get as many home games as possible after classes start.
Given the contractual limitations and the slate of opponents the schedule is viable. It is rather easy to imagine five start times that would have been less favorable.
For example, USC at Noon, Vanderbilt at 11AM (local)/9AM(Pacific), & Utah at 6PM.
The schedule looks about right.
The first game will be in Texas, so it will be hot. The stadium has a roof, so I do wonder if the roof might be closed for the game. It probably will be best for TV for the roof to be closed, so hopefully that will happen.
Given those first three road games are on the schedule, the start times might just be best for the team and Stanford fans.
A game in Dallas with shade for fans and/or a closed roof rather than Kansas. Yes
A game in LA in the evening rather than in the middle of the day. Yes
A game in Tennessee at night rather than a noon kickoff during a really hazy, hot day. Works for me too.
The Friday games are a part of the conference contract, and a nearly certain to be a feature in future contracts. 7:30 is far too late for East Coast types, but I can only imagine some in the Pac-12 have realized kick-offs at 6PM in very empty stadiums has not done much to impress East Coast types. In any event, getting the Tempe game to be held at night is rather important, so I am sure Friday 7:30PM will be much better for the team than Saturday at 1PM. Also, the travel logistics to get out of Tempe are not bad.
The most important thing for Stanford IMHO is to get as many home games as possible after classes start.
Given the contractual limitations and the slate of opponents the schedule is viable. It is rather easy to imagine five start times that would have been less favorable.
For example, USC at Noon, Vanderbilt at 11AM (local)/9AM(Pacific), & Utah at 6PM.
The first game will be in Texas, so it will be hot. The stadium has a roof, so I do wonder if the roof might be closed for the game. It probably will be best for TV for the roof to be closed, so hopefully that will happen.
Given those first three road games are on the schedule, the start times might just be best for the team and Stanford fans.
A game in Dallas with shade for fans and/or a closed roof rather than Kansas. Yes
A game in LA in the evening rather than in the middle of the day. Yes
A game in Tennessee at night rather than a noon kickoff during a really hazy, hot day. Works for me too.
The Friday games are a part of the conference contract, and a nearly certain to be a feature in future contracts. 7:30 is far too late for East Coast types, but I can only imagine some in the Pac-12 have realized kick-offs at 6PM in very empty stadiums has not done much to impress East Coast types. In any event, getting the Tempe game to be held at night is rather important, so I am sure Friday 7:30PM will be much better for the team than Saturday at 1PM. Also, the travel logistics to get out of Tempe are not bad.
The most important thing for Stanford IMHO is to get as many home games as possible after classes start.
Given the contractual limitations and the slate of opponents the schedule is viable. It is rather easy to imagine five start times that would have been less favorable.
For example, USC at Noon, Vanderbilt at 11AM (local)/9AM(Pacific), & Utah at 6PM.
05-27-2021, 04:35 PM
I see 3 wins, 4 maybe. Do the comparison of rosters, depth and defenses. Not pretty.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
05-27-2021, 05:23 PM
(05-27-2021, 05:12 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:I long ago decided I would not bet on college sports, but that feels like an easy bet to me.(05-27-2021, 04:35 PM)gailtate Wrote: I see 3 wins, 4 maybe. Do the comparison of rosters, depth and defenses. Not pretty.
I will bet you real money we win more than 4 games. PM me.
As long as COVID allows the team to play a full schedule 5 or more wins seems like a good bet IMHO.
Even if the season is loaded with losses for Stanford, it will be great to get back into Stanford Stadium to support the team.
(05-27-2021, 05:12 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:I long ago decided I would not bet on college sports, but that feels like an easy bet to me.(05-27-2021, 04:35 PM)gailtate Wrote: I see 3 wins, 4 maybe. Do the comparison of rosters, depth and defenses. Not pretty.
I will bet you real money we win more than 4 games. PM me.
As long as COVID allows the team to play a full schedule 5 or more wins seems like a good bet IMHO.
Even if the season is loaded with losses for Stanford, it will be great to get back into Stanford Stadium to support the team.
05-27-2021, 10:16 PM
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Teams scheduled to play on the road on Friday night are either given a bye or scheduled to play at home the week before. This change was made several years ago after a number of coaches complained that it provided an unfair advantage for the host of the Friday game.
(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Teams scheduled to play on the road on Friday night are either given a bye or scheduled to play at home the week before. This change was made several years ago after a number of coaches complained that it provided an unfair advantage for the host of the Friday game.
05-27-2021, 10:30 PM
(05-27-2021, 10:16 PM)Giants Wrote:(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Teams scheduled to play on the road on Friday night are either given a bye or scheduled to play at home the week before. This change was made several years ago after a number of coaches complained that it provided an unfair advantage for the host of the Friday game.
Yup. In 2016, we had the JJ Arcega Whiteside breakout game at UCLA late Saturday night and got our asses handed to us at UW on Friday night.
(05-27-2021, 10:16 PM)Giants Wrote:(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
Neither ASU nor Utah have a bye either before their Friday night game against us either. Obviously, it is tougher to go on the road for a Friday game, but at least we will have home games the week before.
At least: no home games before students start school. Our schedule is backloaded with home games. We have our bye week midway through, ahead of an important game against a division rival.
That being said, I still look at that schedule and have a very hard time finding 6 wins.
BC
Teams scheduled to play on the road on Friday night are either given a bye or scheduled to play at home the week before. This change was made several years ago after a number of coaches complained that it provided an unfair advantage for the host of the Friday game.
Yup. In 2016, we had the JJ Arcega Whiteside breakout game at UCLA late Saturday night and got our asses handed to us at UW on Friday night.
(05-27-2021, 12:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: One would hope that we have learned some lessons from that. I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall that Shaw decided to stay in California until pretty late in the week. Hopefully, we won't repeat that mistake. I think if we have a poor showing this year, the reason will be that the team is just not very good.
BC
It doesn't matter much what they do to try to "reset" their clock, the team will not be as fresh as KSU.
(05-27-2021, 12:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: One would hope that we have learned some lessons from that. I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall that Shaw decided to stay in California until pretty late in the week. Hopefully, we won't repeat that mistake. I think if we have a poor showing this year, the reason will be that the team is just not very good.
BC
It doesn't matter much what they do to try to "reset" their clock, the team will not be as fresh as KSU.
05-28-2021, 04:34 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2021, 05:48 AM by JohnR34231.)
Well, you can't say expectations are overinflated for this year. (At least based on historical standards. I realize some will say those expecting 6-6 have overinflated expectations).
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2021, 05:48 AM by JohnR34231.)
Well, you can't say expectations are overinflated for this year. (At least based on historical standards. I realize some will say those expecting 6-6 have overinflated expectations).
05-28-2021, 06:15 AM
Hey Sam what’s real money these days? Do you mean money that is green and you can carry or money that has a high value as in “Joe is a millionaire but Bob is making real money”? Just would like to know what you kids think from somebody who watched his dad lose his shirt and then work hard to get it back Post WW2.
Hey Sam what’s real money these days? Do you mean money that is green and you can carry or money that has a high value as in “Joe is a millionaire but Bob is making real money”? Just would like to know what you kids think from somebody who watched his dad lose his shirt and then work hard to get it back Post WW2.
05-28-2021, 06:55 AM
(05-27-2021, 05:23 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(05-27-2021, 05:12 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:I long ago decided I would not bet on college sports, but that feels like an easy bet to me.(05-27-2021, 04:35 PM)gailtate Wrote: I see 3 wins, 4 maybe. Do the comparison of rosters, depth and defenses. Not pretty.
I will bet you real money we win more than 4 games. PM me.
As long as COVID allows the team to play a full schedule 5 or more wins seems like a good bet IMHO.
Even if the season is loaded with losses for Stanford, it will be great to get back into Stanford Stadium to support the team.
I hope you enjoy the season.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(05-27-2021, 05:23 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(05-27-2021, 05:12 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:I long ago decided I would not bet on college sports, but that feels like an easy bet to me.(05-27-2021, 04:35 PM)gailtate Wrote: I see 3 wins, 4 maybe. Do the comparison of rosters, depth and defenses. Not pretty.
I will bet you real money we win more than 4 games. PM me.
As long as COVID allows the team to play a full schedule 5 or more wins seems like a good bet IMHO.
Even if the season is loaded with losses for Stanford, it will be great to get back into Stanford Stadium to support the team.
I hope you enjoy the season.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
05-28-2021, 09:22 AM
(05-27-2021, 12:28 PM)terry Wrote:(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
I had the same reaction as SamuelMcF regarding the K-State game. As he pointed out, Stanford's 2015 team opened its season with a road game at 11 a.m. against Northwestern on a hot, muggy, energy-sapping day. Stanford looked horrible. That was an excellent Stanford team, which later won the Rose Bowl and finished with a #3 ranking. But that team sure didn't perform well with the 11 a.m. kickoff in the heat and humidity.
A year or two ago I looked up Stanford's record in games that started before noon pacific over the past decade or more. It was atrocious.
We did beat Davis in an 11:00 am start game in 2018, but played rather terribly.
(05-27-2021, 12:28 PM)terry Wrote:(05-27-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Sept. 4 is well before classes start, and the game will be 11 am local time. There's no reason not to get acclimated in time.
I had the same reaction as SamuelMcF regarding the K-State game. As he pointed out, Stanford's 2015 team opened its season with a road game at 11 a.m. against Northwestern on a hot, muggy, energy-sapping day. Stanford looked horrible. That was an excellent Stanford team, which later won the Rose Bowl and finished with a #3 ranking. But that team sure didn't perform well with the 11 a.m. kickoff in the heat and humidity.
A year or two ago I looked up Stanford's record in games that started before noon pacific over the past decade or more. It was atrocious.
We did beat Davis in an 11:00 am start game in 2018, but played rather terribly.
05-28-2021, 09:36 AM
(05-28-2021, 06:15 AM)Phogge Wrote: Hey Sam what’s real money these days? Do you mean money that is green and you can carry or money that has a high value as in “Joe is a millionaire but Bob is making real money”? Just would like to know what you kids think from somebody who watched his dad lose his shirt and then work hard to get it back Post WW2.
I don't expect to be mailed a check, so "real money" is just funny computer numbers.
(05-28-2021, 06:15 AM)Phogge Wrote: Hey Sam what’s real money these days? Do you mean money that is green and you can carry or money that has a high value as in “Joe is a millionaire but Bob is making real money”? Just would like to know what you kids think from somebody who watched his dad lose his shirt and then work hard to get it back Post WW2.
I don't expect to be mailed a check, so "real money" is just funny computer numbers.
05-28-2021, 11:38 AM
Lots of "ifs" that have to fall our way to end up with what I consider a successful season of 8 wins. #1 is health because of lack of depth, both in terms of talent and experience, at a lot of positions. #1A is the defense. If we stay healthy and the defense is decent, we can get to eight, although I think more likely we will end up around 6 wins. If we have injuries like 2019, we might win 1 or 2.
K-State, the team I cheered for growing up, is looking like a middle- or lower-end-of-the-pack team in the Big 12. They are not invincible, but they will bring a lot of fans to AT&T Stadium so it will be very much a road game. Vanderbilt may be the worst team in the SEC East. Stanford can beat Cal, Oregon State and WSU. That's five wins in my perfect world.
This team showed tons of resilience in 2020. I expect the same in 2021.
K-State, the team I cheered for growing up, is looking like a middle- or lower-end-of-the-pack team in the Big 12. They are not invincible, but they will bring a lot of fans to AT&T Stadium so it will be very much a road game. Vanderbilt may be the worst team in the SEC East. Stanford can beat Cal, Oregon State and WSU. That's five wins in my perfect world.
This team showed tons of resilience in 2020. I expect the same in 2021.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
Lots of "ifs" that have to fall our way to end up with what I consider a successful season of 8 wins. #1 is health because of lack of depth, both in terms of talent and experience, at a lot of positions. #1A is the defense. If we stay healthy and the defense is decent, we can get to eight, although I think more likely we will end up around 6 wins. If we have injuries like 2019, we might win 1 or 2.
K-State, the team I cheered for growing up, is looking like a middle- or lower-end-of-the-pack team in the Big 12. They are not invincible, but they will bring a lot of fans to AT&T Stadium so it will be very much a road game. Vanderbilt may be the worst team in the SEC East. Stanford can beat Cal, Oregon State and WSU. That's five wins in my perfect world.
This team showed tons of resilience in 2020. I expect the same in 2021.
K-State, the team I cheered for growing up, is looking like a middle- or lower-end-of-the-pack team in the Big 12. They are not invincible, but they will bring a lot of fans to AT&T Stadium so it will be very much a road game. Vanderbilt may be the worst team in the SEC East. Stanford can beat Cal, Oregon State and WSU. That's five wins in my perfect world.
This team showed tons of resilience in 2020. I expect the same in 2021.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
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