[pauloalto]

I have edited the chart to reflect Lauren's status as a walk-on.

I find the available information about Lauren confusing. The clearest I have is a post on another site by someone who, I believe, has been her coach:

"She walked on, Coach Vanderveer invited Lauren to practice with the team and after a week or so offered her a spot."

Was she a walk-on that was offered a full spot, or offered a walk-on spot? I'll be happy to change the graphic if I have it wrong.

[pauloalto]

I have edited the chart to reflect Lauren's status as a walk-on.

I find the available information about Lauren confusing. The clearest I have is a post on another site by someone who, I believe, has been her coach:

"She walked on, Coach Vanderveer invited Lauren to practice with the team and after a week or so offered her a spot."

Was she a walk-on that was offered a full spot, or offered a walk-on spot? I'll be happy to change the graphic if I have it wrong.

[CompSci87]

Could be a walk-on who gets a scholarship for a year when/if one is open, but not a 4-year scholarship commitment. That has happened before. I'm only pointing it out as a possibility.

[CompSci87]

Could be a walk-on who gets a scholarship for a year when/if one is open, but not a 4-year scholarship commitment. That has happened before. I'm only pointing it out as a possibility.

[BACardinal]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

[BACardinal]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

[WBB fan]

Lauren Betts and Lauren Green -- wonder which one will be a nickname that will stick?  Remember, when we had Erica McCall and Erica Payne, McCall became "Bird"

[WBB fan]

Lauren Betts and Lauren Green -- wonder which one will be a nickname that will stick?  Remember, when we had Erica McCall and Erica Payne, McCall became "Bird"

[BobK]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

That was for one year only.

[BobK]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

That was for one year only.

[jonnyss]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

That was for one year only.

thank you. wow, complicated, so i may have this all wrong, but...

wouldn't keeping a scholarship spot open for the incoming class (as we are doing) allow a covid year for last year's graduates  - ie the hulls? (the others already transferred). to have space in case the rising seniors - haley, hannah, fran, ashten - want to play a 5th (covid) year, wouldn't we need to leave a space open among 2023 recruits, not 2022s like lauren green?

oh, maybe you mean that if we leave a space open in the incoming class, we can take a full complement of four 2023's and still have room for a covid 5-year among haley etc.

[jonnyss]

Yes 14 on scholarship for 22-23.    However keep in mind all those who are about to be Jrs and Srs have a potential covid year.    It would be a shame if one wanted to play their covid year got into a Stanford Grad School and left because no scholarship

I thought the extra Covid years don't count towards the scholarship limit?

That was for one year only.

thank you. wow, complicated, so i may have this all wrong, but...

wouldn't keeping a scholarship spot open for the incoming class (as we are doing) allow a covid year for last year's graduates  - ie the hulls? (the others already transferred). to have space in case the rising seniors - haley, hannah, fran, ashten - want to play a 5th (covid) year, wouldn't we need to leave a space open among 2023 recruits, not 2022s like lauren green?

oh, maybe you mean that if we leave a space open in the incoming class, we can take a full complement of four 2023's and still have room for a covid 5-year among haley etc.

[FOXO1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

[FOXO1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

[2006alum]

Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

[2006alum]

Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

[joemontes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

I watched USA's first game vs Mali right after it became available in youtube two days ago, and AGARA made two from beyond the arc in the first half. So, yes, she can deliverfrom 3-point range. But defensively, she is assigned to guard the other team's big forward.

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Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

I agree, so far.  That 2018 team is probably the best U17 Worlds team assembled to date.  Despite the presence of BUECKERS and BOSTON who have dominated WCBB these past couple of seasons, I was particularly impressed with HORSTON (who was the tournament's MOP) and FUDD (especially because she just finished her HS freshman season at the time)

But their defensive intensity vs Germany today was simply outstanding.  Their shooting percentage for this qualification phase is what's underwhelming. Hopefully, their shooting improves as they go deeper in the tournament.  

Watch out for PG HIDALGO and SF CHELI, both players of interest for Stanford.

[joemontes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

I watched USA's first game vs Mali right after it became available in youtube two days ago, and AGARA made two from beyond the arc in the first half. So, yes, she can deliverfrom 3-point range. But defensively, she is assigned to guard the other team's big forward.

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Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

I agree, so far.  That 2018 team is probably the best U17 Worlds team assembled to date.  Despite the presence of BUECKERS and BOSTON who have dominated WCBB these past couple of seasons, I was particularly impressed with HORSTON (who was the tournament's MOP) and FUDD (especially because she just finished her HS freshman season at the time)

But their defensive intensity vs Germany today was simply outstanding.  Their shooting percentage for this qualification phase is what's underwhelming. Hopefully, their shooting improves as they go deeper in the tournament.  

Watch out for PG HIDALGO and SF CHELI, both players of interest for Stanford.

[BosCard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

I watched USA's first game vs Mali right after it became available in youtube two days ago, and AGARA made two from beyond the arc in the first half. So, yes, she can deliverfrom 3-point range. But defensively, she is assigned to guard the other team's big forward.

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Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

I agree, so far.  That 2018 team is probably the best U17 Worlds team assembled to date.  Despite the presence of BUECKERS and BOSTON who have dominated WCBB these past couple of seasons, I was particularly impressed with HORSTON (who was the tournament's MOP) and FUDD (especially because she just finished her HS freshman season at the time)

But their defensive intensity vs Germany today was simply outstanding.  Their shooting percentage for this qualification phase is what's underwhelming. Hopefully, their shooting improves as they go deeper in the tournament.  

Watch out for PG HIDALGO and SF CHELI, both players of interest for Stanford.

Mackenly Randolph has played well and is likely also a player of interest for Stanford (the Stanford Women's Basketball twitter feed follows her).

[BosCard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q-NXtS_IEM

Watched some U17 today against Germany. I thought Agara looked out of place in the post and seemed more comfortable on the perimeter. Seems to be a mid-range good jump shooter, though...maybe a solid face-up 4. 

Juju Watkins had a poor shooting night but still so impressive to watch. I was especially pleased to see her energy and effectiveness on the glass and on defense. Not just a scorer.

I watched USA's first game vs Mali right after it became available in youtube two days ago, and AGARA made two from beyond the arc in the first half. So, yes, she can deliverfrom 3-point range. But defensively, she is assigned to guard the other team's big forward.

---

Agara historically has played more of a SG/W role, but grew a ton, and this U17 has much stronger guards than posts, so I suspect she was picked because she can play any of 2-5 if necessary. The little I watched, see seemed to play a kind of stretch-4 role, though I haven't really seen her looking to shoot from outside much. 

Has anyone else found the play of this U17 team underwhelming so far? Compared to, for example, the Jones/Brink/Belibi/Bueckers/Fudd/Boston/Horston/Cooke group from 2018 (the last time I watched U17), this group feels really lackluster by comparison.

I agree, so far.  That 2018 team is probably the best U17 Worlds team assembled to date.  Despite the presence of BUECKERS and BOSTON who have dominated WCBB these past couple of seasons, I was particularly impressed with HORSTON (who was the tournament's MOP) and FUDD (especially because she just finished her HS freshman season at the time)

But their defensive intensity vs Germany today was simply outstanding.  Their shooting percentage for this qualification phase is what's underwhelming. Hopefully, their shooting improves as they go deeper in the tournament.  

Watch out for PG HIDALGO and SF CHELI, both players of interest for Stanford.

Mackenly Randolph has played well and is likely also a player of interest for Stanford (the Stanford Women's Basketball twitter feed follows her).

[BobK]

More than likely for Randolph. I added her to our list. Thanks BosCard

[BobK]

More than likely for Randolph. I added her to our list. Thanks BosCard

[jonnyss]

thanks for linking the video of the game. i though cheli looked good. i believe i also saw kennedy umeh in the game briefly.

in the part i watched, arizona commit breya cunningham stood out.

[jonnyss]

thanks for linking the video of the game. i though cheli looked good. i believe i also saw kennedy umeh in the game briefly.

in the part i watched, arizona commit breya cunningham stood out.

[FOXO1]

Can't resist posting about this local find I am just learning about today, though she's yet to even start HS (which she'll do alongside Morgan Cheli next year at Mitty).

6'1'/6'2 McKenna Woliczko from San Bruno. Dad is a former Pacific player and coach and now WCC men's hoops commissioner. Looks like a power forward version Hull sister and is almost dunking already.

[Tweet]https://twitter.com/AWoliczko/status/1546628135768100864[/tweet]

Only played one recruiting hoops tournament b/c she's also a softball star, but dominated despite being the youngest on her team/only 8th grader: [tweet]https://twitter.com/finesthoops/status/1545870887840124928[/tweet]

Attended Stanford hoops camp and follow by coach Britney on twitter: [tweet]https://twitter.com/McKennaDub/status/1540905009126092807[/tweet]

Also "Academically, McKenna has a 4.0 GPA. She was awarded the Parkside Math Achievement Award and invited to the STEM Conference at Cal Berkeley."

[FOXO1]

Can't resist posting about this local find I am just learning about today, though she's yet to even start HS (which she'll do alongside Morgan Cheli next year at Mitty).

6'1'/6'2 McKenna Woliczko from San Bruno. Dad is a former Pacific player and coach and now WCC men's hoops commissioner. Looks like a power forward version Hull sister and is almost dunking already.

[Tweet]https://twitter.com/AWoliczko/status/1546628135768100864[/tweet]

Only played one recruiting hoops tournament b/c she's also a softball star, but dominated despite being the youngest on her team/only 8th grader: [tweet]https://twitter.com/finesthoops/status/1545870887840124928[/tweet]

Attended Stanford hoops camp and follow by coach Britney on twitter: [tweet]https://twitter.com/McKennaDub/status/1540905009126092807[/tweet]

Also "Academically, McKenna has a 4.0 GPA. She was awarded the Parkside Math Achievement Award and invited to the STEM Conference at Cal Berkeley."

[BobK]

The Stanford Stanford softball head coach Allister also follows her

[BobK]

The Stanford Stanford softball head coach Allister also follows her

[FOXO1]

Per Twitter (mostly Coach Britney's following list), what could be a list of potential '23 backups for Hidalgo and Watkins (in addition to Steele, who is already on our list here:

—Chloe Clardy 5'9" PG/G Arkansas, started ranked #8 by ESPN IIRC, currently #28 ESPN #33 ASGR. Tennessee, North Carolina, UCLA, NC State, Southern Cal, others...also followed by Anderson. Gatorade POY for Arkansas w/ 3.89 GPA 
—Mackenzie Nelson 5'8" PG Connecticut, ranked #60 by ESPN, #59 by ASGR, Gatorade POY for Connecticut w/ 3.84 GPA
—Tyonna Bailey 5'11" G/W NJ, unranked, but offers from Michigan, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, DePaul, other. Follow by both Coach Paye and Coach Britney 
—Khia Miller 5'10" G Maryland, ranked #82 by ESPN but very modest offers to date. She's the "5th starter" for #1 Sidwell Friends. Followed by Coach Britney and lists a 4.0 GPA

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Hard to pay attention when its a 114-29 blowout but another U17 game to watch vs/ Korea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SZW2BVXOMg

In the glimpses I saw of her, Agara looked little more active and aggressive inside. 

Kennedy Umeh (now ranked#8 by ASGR) had 15 rebounds, though shot 4/14, which speaks to her great size, hustle, willingness to mix it up in the paint, but still raw at finishing. But I love how she's mobile for her size and tremendously strong and not afraid to back down her defenders (often plural) to get position inside. She might remind most of Kalani Brown but she's also got some Devanei Hampton in her.

[FOXO1]

Per Twitter (mostly Coach Britney's following list), what could be a list of potential '23 backups for Hidalgo and Watkins (in addition to Steele, who is already on our list here:

—Chloe Clardy 5'9" PG/G Arkansas, started ranked #8 by ESPN IIRC, currently #28 ESPN #33 ASGR. Tennessee, North Carolina, UCLA, NC State, Southern Cal, others...also followed by Anderson. Gatorade POY for Arkansas w/ 3.89 GPA 
—Mackenzie Nelson 5'8" PG Connecticut, ranked #60 by ESPN, #59 by ASGR, Gatorade POY for Connecticut w/ 3.84 GPA
—Tyonna Bailey 5'11" G/W NJ, unranked, but offers from Michigan, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, DePaul, other. Follow by both Coach Paye and Coach Britney 
—Khia Miller 5'10" G Maryland, ranked #82 by ESPN but very modest offers to date. She's the "5th starter" for #1 Sidwell Friends. Followed by Coach Britney and lists a 4.0 GPA

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Hard to pay attention when its a 114-29 blowout but another U17 game to watch vs/ Korea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SZW2BVXOMg

In the glimpses I saw of her, Agara looked little more active and aggressive inside. 

Kennedy Umeh (now ranked#8 by ASGR) had 15 rebounds, though shot 4/14, which speaks to her great size, hustle, willingness to mix it up in the paint, but still raw at finishing. But I love how she's mobile for her size and tremendously strong and not afraid to back down her defenders (often plural) to get position inside. She might remind most of Kalani Brown but she's also got some Devanei Hampton in her.

[pauloalto]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PabloAlto5/status/1548074668963205120/photo/1[/tweet]

[pauloalto]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PabloAlto5/status/1548074668963205120/photo/1[/tweet]

[BobK]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon. Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

[BobK]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon. Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

[Card10Fan]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon.  Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

That’s great! Do you have article to share? I recall another time her mentioning Stanford was her dream school. I think we have a great shot to land her although class of 2025 is still a ways off  and things can change. Swain has already committed though so maybe Davidson could be another early commit. I think Davidsons mom maybe was an athlete at Oregon.

[Card10Fan]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon.  Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

That’s great! Do you have article to share? I recall another time her mentioning Stanford was her dream school. I think we have a great shot to land her although class of 2025 is still a ways off  and things can change. Swain has already committed though so maybe Davidson could be another early commit. I think Davidsons mom maybe was an athlete at Oregon.

[BobK]

I lost the story but Davidson’s mom ran track at Oregon

[BobK]

I lost the story but Davidson’s mom ran track at Oregon

[mbdude]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon.  Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

That’s great! Do you have article to share? I recall another time her mentioning Stanford was her dream school. I think we have a great shot to land her although class of 2025 is still a ways off  and things can change. Swain has already committed though so maybe Davidson could be another early commit. I think Davidsons mom maybe was an athlete at Oregon.

Pamplin Media Group - Meet Jasmine Davidson: the new torchbearer of the surging Oregon hoops scene

good article, I think it is the 1 BobK found. I asls saw in another article her saying Stanford was her dream school.

[mbdude]

Just read a story on top recruit 2025 Jazz Davidson from the state of Oregon.  Her trainer Susan Borchardt her mentor Cameron Brink

That’s great! Do you have article to share? I recall another time her mentioning Stanford was her dream school. I think we have a great shot to land her although class of 2025 is still a ways off  and things can change. Swain has already committed though so maybe Davidson could be another early commit. I think Davidsons mom maybe was an athlete at Oregon.

Pamplin Media Group - Meet Jasmine Davidson: the new torchbearer of the surging Oregon hoops scene

good article, I think it is the 1 BobK found. I asls saw in another article her saying Stanford was her dream school.