(11-22-2022, 02:21 PM)M T Wrote:(11-22-2022, 12:32 PM)jonnyss Wrote: thanks for the tips on skillful videography. now if we only had a volunteer to take the video.
If anyone does, you may want to find a way to mute the audio so it doesn't get recorded or at least remove the audio before posting. You may not want to have to watch what you say.
(11-22-2022, 02:21 PM)M T Wrote:(11-22-2022, 12:32 PM)jonnyss Wrote: thanks for the tips on skillful videography. now if we only had a volunteer to take the video.
If anyone does, you may want to find a way to mute the audio so it doesn't get recorded or at least remove the audio before posting. You may not want to have to watch what you say.
(11-22-2022, 10:49 PM)M T Wrote: Remember this tournament from 11/26 to 11/28 2013?
VanDerveer earns 900th win as Card sweeps through Puerto Vallarta
I found an announcement of the tournament.
C and R blog on the games.
The box score for the tournament (with no TV (nor radio, IIRC)) shows an attendance of 100.
I personally get suspicious at the funding of such a tournament with no particular source of income. Even if the teams pay to play (plus their expenses), it can't be that profitable. I can imagine the hotel not charging for rooms and then writing the (inflated) cost of rooms as a write-off.
(Speaking of hotel room cost, I just stayed at a Days Inn in the Pasadena area, with rooms in the $130 range. But the price listed on the back of the door was $799. Rose Bowl price or way-beyond-even Rose Bowl price?)
(11-23-2022, 10:42 AM)stopandpop Wrote:(11-22-2022, 02:21 PM)M T Wrote:(11-22-2022, 12:32 PM)jonnyss Wrote: thanks for the tips on skillful videography. now if we only had a volunteer to take the video.
If anyone does, you may want to find a way to mute the audio so it doesn't get recorded or at least remove the audio before posting. You may not want to have to watch what you say.
Unfortunately, I am not tech savvy. Hopefully there will be someone (who goes) who is.
(11-22-2022, 08:32 PM)81alum Wrote:(11-22-2022, 07:38 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Off the wall question. This tournament has low tv presence. I doubt they can get much revenue at the gate. How are the organizers making money?? (Sports economist mode kicks in.)I have wondered about this same question with any number of these. Sometimes they don't make money. Remember the one in Vancouver that got cancelled until they scrambled to fine a gym in Victoria at the last minute? We played Vic Schaeffer's Mississippi State team, I think, the year before he abandoned them to move to Texas. But that one almost did not come off.
I suspect this one is done by U Hawaii, because travel costs are exorbitant for Hawaii athletics and they can use the lure of the islands to get more games at home. This is the second WBB tournament in 2 weeks for them, after all.
Others seem to be done by resorts and hotels to try to get tourists to come at slack times. For them, TV is a detriment.
But I'd love to hear from people who really know how all these weekend tournaments are financed.
(11-22-2022, 10:49 PM)M T Wrote: Remember this tournament from 11/26 to 11/28 2013?
VanDerveer earns 900th win as Card sweeps through Puerto Vallarta
I found an announcement of the tournament.
C and R blog on the games.
The box score for the tournament (with no TV (nor radio, IIRC)) shows an attendance of 100.
I personally get suspicious at the funding of such a tournament with no particular source of income. Even if the teams pay to play (plus their expenses), it can't be that profitable. I can imagine the hotel not charging for rooms and then writing the (inflated) cost of rooms as a write-off.
(Speaking of hotel room cost, I just stayed at a Days Inn in the Pasadena area, with rooms in the $130 range. But the price listed on the back of the door was $799. Rose Bowl price or way-beyond-even Rose Bowl price?)
(11-23-2022, 10:42 AM)stopandpop Wrote:(11-22-2022, 02:21 PM)M T Wrote:(11-22-2022, 12:32 PM)jonnyss Wrote: thanks for the tips on skillful videography. now if we only had a volunteer to take the video.
If anyone does, you may want to find a way to mute the audio so it doesn't get recorded or at least remove the audio before posting. You may not want to have to watch what you say.
Unfortunately, I am not tech savvy. Hopefully there will be someone (who goes) who is.
(11-22-2022, 08:32 PM)81alum Wrote:(11-22-2022, 07:38 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Off the wall question. This tournament has low tv presence. I doubt they can get much revenue at the gate. How are the organizers making money?? (Sports economist mode kicks in.)I have wondered about this same question with any number of these. Sometimes they don't make money. Remember the one in Vancouver that got cancelled until they scrambled to fine a gym in Victoria at the last minute? We played Vic Schaeffer's Mississippi State team, I think, the year before he abandoned them to move to Texas. But that one almost did not come off.
I suspect this one is done by U Hawaii, because travel costs are exorbitant for Hawaii athletics and they can use the lure of the islands to get more games at home. This is the second WBB tournament in 2 weeks for them, after all.
Others seem to be done by resorts and hotels to try to get tourists to come at slack times. For them, TV is a detriment.
But I'd love to hear from people who really know how all these weekend tournaments are financed.
(11-21-2022, 05:55 PM)81alum Wrote: With all these short, speedy guards who can bomb away from distance and/or drive--on all three opposing teams--I think we may see a lot of Emma-Nnopu, Nivar, Harriel, and Bosgana and probably Papadaki and Green when well ahead, in addition to the starters.
Well, actually we won't "see" any of them apparently.
(11-21-2022, 05:53 PM)Card10Fan Wrote: Who's going to the games? Hoping we have a nice fan following in Hawaii. :)Great question. Whoever is going, we need you to post your summaries and write-ups here, since those of us stranded on the mainland can't watch ;(
(11-21-2022, 05:55 PM)81alum Wrote: With all these short, speedy guards who can bomb away from distance and/or drive--on all three opposing teams--I think we may see a lot of Emma-Nnopu, Nivar, Harriel, and Bosgana and probably Papadaki and Green when well ahead, in addition to the starters.
Well, actually we won't "see" any of them apparently.
(11-21-2022, 05:53 PM)Card10Fan Wrote: Who's going to the games? Hoping we have a nice fan following in Hawaii. :)Great question. Whoever is going, we need you to post your summaries and write-ups here, since those of us stranded on the mainland can't watch ;(
(11-24-2022, 04:17 PM)Erika Wrote:(11-24-2022, 10:41 AM)crackpot Wrote: Got momentarily excited when looking at the ESPN+ schedule for Saturday and saw Stanford listed. That is, until my eyes cleared and saw they are showing Stamford.
Looks like it is here. Came up when I logged in to ESPN+
(11-24-2022, 04:17 PM)Erika Wrote:(11-24-2022, 10:41 AM)crackpot Wrote: Got momentarily excited when looking at the ESPN+ schedule for Saturday and saw Stanford listed. That is, until my eyes cleared and saw they are showing Stamford.
Looks like it is here. Came up when I logged in to ESPN+
