[BigJohn043]

FWIW, here is a quote from a Volleyballmag.com discussion on the best players in the country:
"If we were having a player draft and I had the No. 1 pick, I’d take Stanford senior Kami Miner..."

I'm a fan of Miner, and think she's as good a setter as any in the country.  But, would you really take her as the first player in a draft?  I would probably build my team around a pin hitter who can make something out of an out-of-system play (a la Kathryn Plummer).

BC

Plummer is probably the best college player of all time.  So yes I would take her.

The better question is would you take Kipp or Miner.

I generally agree with you that the variance of top level setters is just lower so I would take Kipp.

[BigJohn043]

FWIW, here is a quote from a Volleyballmag.com discussion on the best players in the country:
"If we were having a player draft and I had the No. 1 pick, I’d take Stanford senior Kami Miner..."

I'm a fan of Miner, and think she's as good a setter as any in the country.  But, would you really take her as the first player in a draft?  I would probably build my team around a pin hitter who can make something out of an out-of-system play (a la Kathryn Plummer).

BC

Plummer is probably the best college player of all time.  So yes I would take her.

The better question is would you take Kipp or Miner.

I generally agree with you that the variance of top level setters is just lower so I would take Kipp.

[BostonCard]

FWIW, here is a quote from a Volleyballmag.com discussion on the best players in the country:
"If we were having a player draft and I had the No. 1 pick, I’d take Stanford senior Kami Miner..."

I'm a fan of Miner, and think she's as good a setter as any in the country.  But, would you really take her as the first player in a draft?  I would probably build my team around a pin hitter who can make something out of an out-of-system play (a la Kathryn Plummer).

BC

Plummer is probably the best college player of all time.  So yes I would take her.

The better question is would you take Kipp or Miner.

I generally agree with you that the variance of top level setters is just lower so I would take Kipp.

All time?  That's quite the claim.

Note, the OP question was whether Miner would be your first draft pick.  I wasn't comparing her specifically to Plummer, but rather to a player like Plummer; an outside hitter who can rescue the offense from being out of system by being able to put down a lot of crap.  If I were building a team with the first pick of the draft, that's what I would spend it on.

BC

[BostonCard]

FWIW, here is a quote from a Volleyballmag.com discussion on the best players in the country:
"If we were having a player draft and I had the No. 1 pick, I’d take Stanford senior Kami Miner..."

I'm a fan of Miner, and think she's as good a setter as any in the country.  But, would you really take her as the first player in a draft?  I would probably build my team around a pin hitter who can make something out of an out-of-system play (a la Kathryn Plummer).

BC

Plummer is probably the best college player of all time.  So yes I would take her.

The better question is would you take Kipp or Miner.

I generally agree with you that the variance of top level setters is just lower so I would take Kipp.

All time?  That's quite the claim.

Note, the OP question was whether Miner would be your first draft pick.  I wasn't comparing her specifically to Plummer, but rather to a player like Plummer; an outside hitter who can rescue the offense from being out of system by being able to put down a lot of crap.  If I were building a team with the first pick of the draft, that's what I would spend it on.

BC

[johnbar]

Stanford at Milwaukee today 4:00pm Pacific on ESPN+.  I believe this is a branch campus of University of Wisconsin.  Acceptance rate 86%; graduation rate 45%.

Milwaukee was 21-12 last year.  They have seven front row players 6'0" or taller on the roster.

Live stats:    https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=540990

The University of Wisconsin system looks like it has 25 campuses (more than I expected.) 13 of them are "comprehensive" and the other 12 are two-year branch campuses, so like community colleges.  Milwaukee appears to be the only campus other than the flagship in Madison to have R1 status from the Carnegie Classifications people.

I grew up in Milwaukee and went to University of Wisconsin-Madison.  At that time, the Madison campus was just "University of Wisconsin" and the Milwaukee branch was "UWM".  They later added "Madison" to the flagship campus name.  At some point in the 1970s they merged the more prestigious "University of Wisconsin" system with the "Wisconsin State University" system, in the name of efficiency/cost-saving.

[johnbar]

Stanford at Milwaukee today 4:00pm Pacific on ESPN+.  I believe this is a branch campus of University of Wisconsin.  Acceptance rate 86%; graduation rate 45%.

Milwaukee was 21-12 last year.  They have seven front row players 6'0" or taller on the roster.

Live stats:    https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=540990

The University of Wisconsin system looks like it has 25 campuses (more than I expected.) 13 of them are "comprehensive" and the other 12 are two-year branch campuses, so like community colleges.  Milwaukee appears to be the only campus other than the flagship in Madison to have R1 status from the Carnegie Classifications people.

I grew up in Milwaukee and went to University of Wisconsin-Madison.  At that time, the Madison campus was just "University of Wisconsin" and the Milwaukee branch was "UWM".  They later added "Madison" to the flagship campus name.  At some point in the 1970s they merged the more prestigious "University of Wisconsin" system with the "Wisconsin State University" system, in the name of efficiency/cost-saving.

[mbdude]

someone in boot on sideline, can't tell. miner doesn't appear to ne dressed out

[mbdude]

someone in boot on sideline, can't tell. miner doesn't appear to ne dressed out

[BobK]

Where is Miner?

[BobK]

Where is Miner?

[76lsjumb]

Where is Minor?

I was counting on you to be able to answer that question…

[76lsjumb]

Where is Minor?

I was counting on you to be able to answer that question…

[paloalto]

Miner not dressed to play.    Stanford up 15-14 in the first set.  Kurt can bring the heat.

[paloalto]

Miner not dressed to play.    Stanford up 15-14 in the first set.  Kurt can bring the heat.

[mbdude]

don't see Blyashov

[mbdude]

don't see Blyashov

[paloalto]

Stanford up 18-15.   Milwaukee has lost 16 straight matches against ranked teams according to announcer.

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Harvey ends set 1 with two straight aces.   Harvey also got a kill by bumping the ball over the net that hit the floor; don't see that often.

[paloalto]

Stanford up 18-15.   Milwaukee has lost 16 straight matches against ranked teams according to announcer.

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Harvey ends set 1 with two straight aces.   Harvey also got a kill by bumping the ball over the net that hit the floor; don't see that often.

[johnbar]

someone in boot on sideline, can't tell. miner doesn't appear to ne dressed out

Blyashov in the boot, according to VT.

Kurt gets the start.

[johnbar]

someone in boot on sideline, can't tell. miner doesn't appear to ne dressed out

Blyashov in the boot, according to VT.

Kurt gets the start.

[paloalto]

Stanford down 12-10 in set 2.

[paloalto]

Stanford down 12-10 in set 2.

[BobK]

Blyaskov in a boot

[BobK]

Blyaskov in a boot

[paloalto]

Stanford down 20-16 in set 2.

[paloalto]

Stanford down 20-16 in set 2.

[BobK]

I know Hambly said it again but 10 service errors already

[BobK]

I know Hambly said it again but 10 service errors already

[paloalto]

Stanford wins set 2 27-25.  That was a nice comeback.

[paloalto]

Stanford wins set 2 27-25.  That was a nice comeback.

[Canalejas]

Nice pair of 3-0 runs to fight off 4 set points.

[Canalejas]

Nice pair of 3-0 runs to fight off 4 set points.

[cardfan77]

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I know Hambly said it again but 10 service errors already

I don’t mind the aggressive serving but not a fan of Oglivie’s new jump serve. Most hits the bottom of the net. When she gets it over, it’s an easy serve to pass. I’d like her to go back to her jump float serve.

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I’d also like to see a DS sub in for Kurt when she’s in the back row. She is struggling passing and digging. She’s doing okay in the front so far.

[cardfan77]

1725062256[/url]']
I know Hambly said it again but 10 service errors already

I don’t mind the aggressive serving but not a fan of Oglivie’s new jump serve. Most hits the bottom of the net. When she gets it over, it’s an easy serve to pass. I’d like her to go back to her jump float serve.

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I’d also like to see a DS sub in for Kurt when she’s in the back row. She is struggling passing and digging. She’s doing okay in the front so far.

[paloalto]

New record attendance blows away the old record but in a small high-school like gym.

[paloalto]

New record attendance blows away the old record but in a small high-school like gym.

[cardfan77]

Beaven in for Kurt in the back row. Another service error for Oglivie

[cardfan77]

Beaven in for Kurt in the back row. Another service error for Oglivie

[paloalto]

Taylor Yu serves out by 20 feet for fifth service error.  At some point do you focus on getting the ball in the court or do you keep swinging away?

However Stanford is up 13-9 so everything ok.

[paloalto]

Taylor Yu serves out by 20 feet for fifth service error.  At some point do you focus on getting the ball in the court or do you keep swinging away?

However Stanford is up 13-9 so everything ok.