(03-19-2012, 05:14 PM)81alum link Wrote:Missy Barlow IS referee and as usual when she is involved, they messed up a call. Joslyn was fouled and should have had a one-and-one, but they played on. When they discovered their error, they huddled for five minutes while the announcers wondered what was going on. Finally they decided that it was not a correctable error--so Joslyn lost the opportunity to take free throws.
(03-19-2012, 05:14 PM)81alum link Wrote:Missy Barlow IS referee and as usual when she is involved, they messed up a call. Joslyn was fouled and should have had a one-and-one, but they played on. When they discovered their error, they huddled for five minutes while the announcers wondered what was going on. Finally they decided that it was not a correctable error--so Joslyn lost the opportunity to take free throws.
(03-19-2012, 06:25 PM)garvin link Wrote:Not to sound like a broken record, though I know I do, but what are all the starters doing in the game with a 20-point lead and two minutes to go?
(03-19-2012, 06:25 PM)garvin link Wrote:Not to sound like a broken record, though I know I do, but what are all the starters doing in the game with a 20-point lead and two minutes to go?
(03-19-2012, 05:57 PM)pefloresjr link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=5721.msg42030#msg42030 date=1332202463]
Missy Barlow IS referee and as usual when she is involved, they messed up a call. Joslyn was fouled and should have had a one-and-one, but they played on. When they discovered their error, they huddled for five minutes while the announcers wondered what was going on. Finally they decided that it was not a correctable error--so Joslyn lost the opportunity to take free throws.
(03-19-2012, 05:57 PM)pefloresjr link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=5721.msg42030#msg42030 date=1332202463]
Missy Barlow IS referee and as usual when she is involved, they messed up a call. Joslyn was fouled and should have had a one-and-one, but they played on. When they discovered their error, they huddled for five minutes while the announcers wondered what was going on. Finally they decided that it was not a correctable error--so Joslyn lost the opportunity to take free throws.
(03-19-2012, 06:54 PM)Viking_Guy link Wrote:Glenn--
I too was asking that question. But I think she was disappointed with the bench's play at the end of the Hampton game. Plus, there's not that much of a healthy bench right now. Boothe played a lot of minutes, and Erica hasn't had a lot of time this year. So not many forwards. Greenfield got some minutes, but Tara really got in her grill after the delay when they should've called the foul on the three-point shot; maybe Taylor lost her mark in the corner?
Other than that, the only bench players healthy who didn't play was Grace, though Sara and Erica only got in the last minute. I actually would've liked to have seen some Bonnie minutes, if she's going to be able to shoot with the broken finger on her offhand, but another week of healing can't hurt. I also think Tara is always wary of giving the other team any momentum until they're going to their own bench and sitting the starters (she started subbing when WVa sat Bussie, I think).
Speaking as someone who was arguing about this back in 1997 and 98, when we were routinely blowing teams out by 30+ but would yank our freshmen at the first sign of trouble (I think it really hurt Carolyn Moos' development, for example), it's continued to be frustrating. I would've liked to have seen some more minutes for Payne and James. But I don't think the SoCar game will give us that chance; I would've much rather played Purdue.
And btw, that "power conference", the B1G 10(?), is now 2-6 in the tourney, with Purdue looking rather bad at home and Penn State looking at a tough matchup at LSU in the second round.
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(03-19-2012, 06:54 PM)Viking_Guy link Wrote:Glenn--
I too was asking that question. But I think she was disappointed with the bench's play at the end of the Hampton game. Plus, there's not that much of a healthy bench right now. Boothe played a lot of minutes, and Erica hasn't had a lot of time this year. So not many forwards. Greenfield got some minutes, but Tara really got in her grill after the delay when they should've called the foul on the three-point shot; maybe Taylor lost her mark in the corner?
Other than that, the only bench players healthy who didn't play was Grace, though Sara and Erica only got in the last minute. I actually would've liked to have seen some Bonnie minutes, if she's going to be able to shoot with the broken finger on her offhand, but another week of healing can't hurt. I also think Tara is always wary of giving the other team any momentum until they're going to their own bench and sitting the starters (she started subbing when WVa sat Bussie, I think).
Speaking as someone who was arguing about this back in 1997 and 98, when we were routinely blowing teams out by 30+ but would yank our freshmen at the first sign of trouble (I think it really hurt Carolyn Moos' development, for example), it's continued to be frustrating. I would've liked to have seen some more minutes for Payne and James. But I don't think the SoCar game will give us that chance; I would've much rather played Purdue.
And btw, that "power conference", the B1G 10(?), is now 2-6 in the tourney, with Purdue looking rather bad at home and Penn State looking at a tough matchup at LSU in the second round.
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(03-19-2012, 08:33 PM)81alum link Wrote:A superb first half. I too was not that happy with the second half, but I think our strategy was significantly altered by our lead. It seemed to me that the team must have been instructed in the second half not to start plays until the shot clock was at least half way down. We wanted to slow the pace and eat as much clock as possible. That took away a lot of opportunities and West Virginia caught on--defending well at the end of the shot clock and causing some bad shots and shot clock violations.Â
So our offense did seem more stale to me in the second half. But here is an odd thing: despite my impressions we scored almost as many points (34 compared with 38) despite having our shooting percentage collapse from 53.8% in the first half to only 32.1% in the second half. The difference was largely FTs--we scored 7 in the first half to 16 in the second.
What more can we say about Amber? We are witnessing the development of a star. Norfolk was Amber's national debutante ball. 8-14 shots and 6-7 FTs! 5 assists to 0 (zero!) turnovers. She was the main reason we had only 6 turnovers against a team famous for steals and defense.  But did anyone notice that Amber led the team in rebounds? Actually, she was tied with Jos for 7, but still, a point guard with 7 rebounds?
One big advantage for us was that the refs decided to call the game fairly close. West Virginia exceeded even their very high average 18 fouls per game and picked up 23 tonight. They wound up with 3 players at 4 fouls each and another at 3. All those fouls made it difficult for West Virginia to play their normal maul-ball.
Our coaching was brilliant in at least two ways. First, on defense, we did something that effectively neutralized West Virginia's vaunted high-low game for almost the whole game. Bussie was only 4-13. Second, on offense, as others have pointed out, we made them pay dearly for their overly aggressive man-to-man with a string of varied back door cuts.Â
With all the positives, I hate to mention a couple of negatives, but I am sure Tara will. What is going on with Toni? She went 2-14 and looked a little off balance at times. I think those two she made may both have been on fast breaks--her jump shot just seemed slightly off, rattling around and coming out a few different times. She did go 5-6 at the line and had 3 steals, and played good defense, so she did her part to contribute, but I'm sure she is frustrated with her shot.Â
Sarah gave us good minutes on defense and absorbed some fouls, but she nabbed only 1 rebound and made one basket. She doesn't seem quite all the way back to me. But we really needed her with the fouls on Nneka and Chiney and she helped defensively, altering some shots.
Jos played 38 minutes--that might be a record for her, and her defense seemed very solid. I saw her beaten a couple of times (once leading to an and-1) but for 38 minutes being beaten once or twice is not bad at all. Plus 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 7 points and she definitely held up her end of things.
Chiney honestly did not look like her knee was bothering her at all. She scored more points at the FT line than in FGs. Nneka was her usual indomitable self but the two of them definitely did not dominate the rebounds as they are used to--just 11 between the two of them and only 4 offensive rebounds.Â
Now, we have most of a week to worry about South Carolina!
(03-19-2012, 08:33 PM)81alum link Wrote:A superb first half. I too was not that happy with the second half, but I think our strategy was significantly altered by our lead. It seemed to me that the team must have been instructed in the second half not to start plays until the shot clock was at least half way down. We wanted to slow the pace and eat as much clock as possible. That took away a lot of opportunities and West Virginia caught on--defending well at the end of the shot clock and causing some bad shots and shot clock violations.Â
So our offense did seem more stale to me in the second half. But here is an odd thing: despite my impressions we scored almost as many points (34 compared with 38) despite having our shooting percentage collapse from 53.8% in the first half to only 32.1% in the second half. The difference was largely FTs--we scored 7 in the first half to 16 in the second.
What more can we say about Amber? We are witnessing the development of a star. Norfolk was Amber's national debutante ball. 8-14 shots and 6-7 FTs! 5 assists to 0 (zero!) turnovers. She was the main reason we had only 6 turnovers against a team famous for steals and defense.  But did anyone notice that Amber led the team in rebounds? Actually, she was tied with Jos for 7, but still, a point guard with 7 rebounds?
One big advantage for us was that the refs decided to call the game fairly close. West Virginia exceeded even their very high average 18 fouls per game and picked up 23 tonight. They wound up with 3 players at 4 fouls each and another at 3. All those fouls made it difficult for West Virginia to play their normal maul-ball.
Our coaching was brilliant in at least two ways. First, on defense, we did something that effectively neutralized West Virginia's vaunted high-low game for almost the whole game. Bussie was only 4-13. Second, on offense, as others have pointed out, we made them pay dearly for their overly aggressive man-to-man with a string of varied back door cuts.Â
With all the positives, I hate to mention a couple of negatives, but I am sure Tara will. What is going on with Toni? She went 2-14 and looked a little off balance at times. I think those two she made may both have been on fast breaks--her jump shot just seemed slightly off, rattling around and coming out a few different times. She did go 5-6 at the line and had 3 steals, and played good defense, so she did her part to contribute, but I'm sure she is frustrated with her shot.Â
Sarah gave us good minutes on defense and absorbed some fouls, but she nabbed only 1 rebound and made one basket. She doesn't seem quite all the way back to me. But we really needed her with the fouls on Nneka and Chiney and she helped defensively, altering some shots.
Jos played 38 minutes--that might be a record for her, and her defense seemed very solid. I saw her beaten a couple of times (once leading to an and-1) but for 38 minutes being beaten once or twice is not bad at all. Plus 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 7 points and she definitely held up her end of things.
Chiney honestly did not look like her knee was bothering her at all. She scored more points at the FT line than in FGs. Nneka was her usual indomitable self but the two of them definitely did not dominate the rebounds as they are used to--just 11 between the two of them and only 4 offensive rebounds.Â
Now, we have most of a week to worry about South Carolina!
(03-20-2012, 03:10 AM)MT link Wrote:I believe the announcers were correct in their description of the problem that prompted the discussion of the officials.
(03-20-2012, 03:10 AM)MT link Wrote:I believe the announcers were correct in their description of the problem that prompted the discussion of the officials.
