08-06-2020, 07:16 PM
You can read the discussion we had about those studies on here a few days ago.
(08-06-2020, 07:11 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Good article on this from the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/sport...letes.html
Most will probably be fine. But some will not. How many people get it will dictate how many end up with problems. And of course these folks play a game with well known concussion risks. So I'm sure the number skipping for health reasons will be low in any case.
(08-06-2020, 07:11 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Good article on this from the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/sport...letes.html
Most will probably be fine. But some will not. How many people get it will dictate how many end up with problems. And of course these folks play a game with well known concussion risks. So I'm sure the number skipping for health reasons will be low in any case.
(08-06-2020, 07:33 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: My perspective is perhaps a bit different because the folks I see with this have been through a war with it. New development, starting to see some of the folks who got off vents months ago but now have very difficult to surgically correct vocal cord problems from having a tube in their throats for a long time. Reducing the number of people who get this disease should be our guiding principle, even if most people who get it will probably be fine long term. This is a new disease we don't fully understand. Humility is smart when dealing with it IMHO.
(08-06-2020, 07:33 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: My perspective is perhaps a bit different because the folks I see with this have been through a war with it. New development, starting to see some of the folks who got off vents months ago but now have very difficult to surgically correct vocal cord problems from having a tube in their throats for a long time. Reducing the number of people who get this disease should be our guiding principle, even if most people who get it will probably be fine long term. This is a new disease we don't fully understand. Humility is smart when dealing with it IMHO.
(08-06-2020, 09:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-06-2020, 07:33 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: My perspective is perhaps a bit different because the folks I see with this have been through a war with it. New development, starting to see some of the folks who got off vents months ago but now have very difficult to surgically correct vocal cord problems from having a tube in their throats for a long time. Reducing the number of people who get this disease should be our guiding principle, even if most people who get it will probably be fine long term. This is a new disease we don't fully understand. Humility is smart when dealing with it IMHO.
Thank you for your good work.
(08-06-2020, 09:05 PM)lex24 Wrote:(08-06-2020, 07:33 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: My perspective is perhaps a bit different because the folks I see with this have been through a war with it. New development, starting to see some of the folks who got off vents months ago but now have very difficult to surgically correct vocal cord problems from having a tube in their throats for a long time. Reducing the number of people who get this disease should be our guiding principle, even if most people who get it will probably be fine long term. This is a new disease we don't fully understand. Humility is smart when dealing with it IMHO.
Thank you for your good work.
(08-07-2020, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: This thread's subject might more accurately be changed to "College football should not be played this year" or "Should college football be played this year." Because as much as everyone on the outside isn't believing the games will actually be played, and well over half of people polled don't think it should be, it sure doesn't look like anything is stopping P5 conferences from playing games if they get the safety concerns ironed out with the athletes.
(08-08-2020, 09:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292123705733259265[/tweet]
(08-07-2020, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: This thread's subject might more accurately be changed to "College football should not be played this year" or "Should college football be played this year." Because as much as everyone on the outside isn't believing the games will actually be played, and well over half of people polled don't think it should be, it sure doesn't look like anything is stopping P5 conferences from playing games if they get the safety concerns ironed out with the athletes.
(08-08-2020, 09:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292123705733259265[/tweet]
(08-08-2020, 10:15 AM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: Just pairing these:
(08-07-2020, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: This thread's subject might more accurately be changed to "College football should not be played this year" or "Should college football be played this year." Because as much as everyone on the outside isn't believing the games will actually be played, and well over half of people polled don't think it should be, it sure doesn't look like anything is stopping P5 conferences from playing games if they get the safety concerns ironed out with the athletes.
The NCAA could make life a bit easier by not only cancelling the upcoming football season but most if not all other fall sports. As far as the $$$ impact on college athletic programs, the NCAA in concert with the NFL, NBA, MLB, Amazon, Musk, Apple, Google and the rest of the tech gang should be able to cobble together some sort of financial support and maybe Wall Street could help just for grins. I would hate to be in the shoes of a university president or an athletic director who would like to see fall sports cancelled, but have not been able to secure the necessary support from the administration/board of trustees.
I have two family members who both recently retired from teaching and doing research at the university level in computer science/GIS/information systems/AI and in bio-medical research (cancer/Aids/Ebola). Both have serious autoimmune conditions and would have taken early retirement had they not retired. Both expressed the concern of the potential for this virus to decimate the scientific and medical communities, especially those groups of individuals who work in the university teaching and research environment. Many of the senior members in these professions have existing medical conditions which when coupled with this virus will most likely kill them.
(08-08-2020, 09:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292123705733259265[/tweet]
(08-08-2020, 10:15 AM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: Just pairing these:
(08-07-2020, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: This thread's subject might more accurately be changed to "College football should not be played this year" or "Should college football be played this year." Because as much as everyone on the outside isn't believing the games will actually be played, and well over half of people polled don't think it should be, it sure doesn't look like anything is stopping P5 conferences from playing games if they get the safety concerns ironed out with the athletes.
The NCAA could make life a bit easier by not only cancelling the upcoming football season but most if not all other fall sports. As far as the $$$ impact on college athletic programs, the NCAA in concert with the NFL, NBA, MLB, Amazon, Musk, Apple, Google and the rest of the tech gang should be able to cobble together some sort of financial support and maybe Wall Street could help just for grins. I would hate to be in the shoes of a university president or an athletic director who would like to see fall sports cancelled, but have not been able to secure the necessary support from the administration/board of trustees.
I have two family members who both recently retired from teaching and doing research at the university level in computer science/GIS/information systems/AI and in bio-medical research (cancer/Aids/Ebola). Both have serious autoimmune conditions and would have taken early retirement had they not retired. Both expressed the concern of the potential for this virus to decimate the scientific and medical communities, especially those groups of individuals who work in the university teaching and research environment. Many of the senior members in these professions have existing medical conditions which when coupled with this virus will most likely kill them.
(08-08-2020, 09:20 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292123705733259265[/tweet]
(08-08-2020, 12:37 PM)needle Wrote: I believe that when the Big 10, Pac and SEC announced the postponement of their seasons, they were pinning their hopes on a big drop in cases by the first week of September.
Is such a drop still possible? While Texas and Florida have covid-19 testing rates above 15%, many states in Big 10 country have much lower positivity rates. In Michigan, for example, the covid-19 test positivity rate is 2.5%. Other Big 10 states are higher. But an optimist could say that perhaps they could come down given a few weeks time: Ohio, 4.9%; Illinois, 4.1%; Wisconsin, 6.2%; Iowa, 9.6%.
So, despite the news this morning, I would be very, very surprised if the Big 10 doesn't give it another week or two before making a decision on pulling the plug on the football this fall.
(There are, I believe, other possibilities that *might* come into play, like trying to split the season between fall and spring. But because I haven't heard anything like that actually reported, I'd say this is very unlikely.)
Ultimately, the higher covid-19 rates in other states, especially the south, likely mean that multiple conferences will pull the plug and then all will follow to preserve the chance of a CFB football playoff in the spring.
But there are other possibilities...it is still possible, imo, that there will be some Power 5 games this fall.
(08-08-2020, 12:37 PM)needle Wrote: I believe that when the Big 10, Pac and SEC announced the postponement of their seasons, they were pinning their hopes on a big drop in cases by the first week of September.
Is such a drop still possible? While Texas and Florida have covid-19 testing rates above 15%, many states in Big 10 country have much lower positivity rates. In Michigan, for example, the covid-19 test positivity rate is 2.5%. Other Big 10 states are higher. But an optimist could say that perhaps they could come down given a few weeks time: Ohio, 4.9%; Illinois, 4.1%; Wisconsin, 6.2%; Iowa, 9.6%.
So, despite the news this morning, I would be very, very surprised if the Big 10 doesn't give it another week or two before making a decision on pulling the plug on the football this fall.
(There are, I believe, other possibilities that *might* come into play, like trying to split the season between fall and spring. But because I haven't heard anything like that actually reported, I'd say this is very unlikely.)
Ultimately, the higher covid-19 rates in other states, especially the south, likely mean that multiple conferences will pull the plug and then all will follow to preserve the chance of a CFB football playoff in the spring.
But there are other possibilities...it is still possible, imo, that there will be some Power 5 games this fall.
Quote: A Pac-12 administrator said league presidents are getting "squirrely," and several league sources said they wouldn't be surprised if the presidents vote Tuesday to cancel fall sports.
Quote: A Pac-12 administrator said league presidents are getting "squirrely," and several league sources said they wouldn't be surprised if the presidents vote Tuesday to cancel fall sports.
(08-09-2020, 10:19 AM)DenverCard Wrote: And then there's this:
https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/09/nc...s-concerns
(08-09-2020, 10:19 AM)DenverCard Wrote: And then there's this:
https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/09/nc...s-concerns